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For those making the argument that the iPad‘s don’t have a notch, while that is true, the iPad was made to hold in your hand as a tablet so as someone has already said “thumb space” is critical (I am not talking about the iPad docked into a keyboard mechanism (i.e. Magic Keyboard).
The other bit with the iPad is, while the iPhone and Mac naturally gravitate towards a single orientation - portrait for the iPhone, landscape for the Mac - the iPad is equally at home in both orientations and was designed to work well in either. If you put a notch on it… where do you put it? Half the time, it’ll be on the side instead of the top.
 
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The notch is back making a return? Is this rumor for reals? I know we are only 3 days away from the event but damn!

Apple is trying to get rid of the notch and here they are going to apply it with MacBook Pro, yeah right!

Can we expect a little bit of a notch and no bezels 💻?

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Looks better on the MacBook than the phone, for sure.

Still don't get why (if the 74px thing is true) Apple keeps changing aspect ratios when they go with slimmer bezels, instead of changing device shape. But, whatever.
 
Looks better on the MacBook than the phone, for sure.

Still don't get why (if the 74px thing is true) Apple keeps changing aspect ratios when they go with slimmer bezels, instead of changing device shape. But, whatever.
The device shape is dictated by keyboard and trackpad size. Since the screen has to be the same size as it’s base, it’s easier to make the keyboard/trackpad the right size and adjust the screen to fit.
 
If the notch is narrow enough in height it could match up with the menu bar, wouldn't appear as intrusive in dark mode
 
One question to all the people hating the notch…
What if you can keep all the 74 height pixels dark and the menu starts below that. Let's call it legacy mode and you don't have a notch. Would that solve your issues? You would have a larger bezel and no notch.
And in normal mode the menu bar is split around it.
The OS switch the mode depending on fullscreen or leave it as an option.
Remember these 74 height pixels are additional pixels. Black them out when you don't want a notch. Sounds like a great option.
 
I’m sure apple will find a way to F it up, like adding a notch.
This would make full screen use not very good from a UX pov
 
One question to all the people hating the notch…
What if you can keep all the 74 height pixels dark and the menu starts below that. Let's call it legacy mode and you don't have a notch. Would that solve your issues? You would have a larger bezel and no notch.
And in normal mode the menu bar is split around it.
The OS switch the mode depending on fullscreen or leave it as an option.
Remember these 74 height pixels are additional pixels. Black them out when you don't want a notch. Sounds like a great option.
from a UX perspective splitting the menu bar would be horrible. This isn't real. And if it is, then Apple's jumped the shark.
 
Huge questions remain around how macOS would handle a notch, since it would clearly eat into the Menu Bar, and it seems baffling that Apple would give the MacBook Pro a notch while withholding Face ID and equally sized bezels.
Why? Why claim that it would “clearly eat into the menu bar”, right after explaining that the extra 74 pixels would be above the traditional 16:10 ratio screen?

Why not put signal strength indicators and clocks and such in that 74px bar, to the left and right of the notch (similar to what the iPhone does), and have the menu bar be in the top of the 16:10 space just like it always has been? It could even be that the 74px stripe isn’t accessible to the mouse cursor, so when you slam your cursor to the “top” of the screen, it arrives in the full-width menu bar, as now, its just a menu bar that the clock, battery / WiFi / (LTE/5G?) / volume indicators have migrated out of (up 74px higher), leaving more room (in the part the mouse can reach) for menus and such.

If you want to get really crazy, what if the 74px stripe was touch enabled, and took over some of the things previously put on the Touch Bar? Or, maybe there’s no notch, the 74 “extra” pixels aren’t at the top, they’re at the bottom, and they’re a full width Touch Bar replacement. I don’t think either of the ideas in this paragraph are even remotely likely, just throwing them out there for the sake of completeness.
 
If it means 98% bezzeles and full screen immerse experience. I'd go for it. At least it'll be easy to buy since 99% of people will hate it.
Do you normally sit in a black void of nothingness? The bezel around the screen just creates a buffer between the material you’re looking at on-screen and whatever is surrounding you in the real world. Take away the bezels and the things around you in real life just intrude more on the screen, coming right up against the on-screen pixels. 98% bezel-less is not necessarily a big win.
 
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If this highly unlikely scenario was true, the both would be hidden and encompassed within the menu bar.
 
Well it does have a certain design symmetry to it in that now the new MBP looks like a big-ass phone that folds.
 
How many of you actually have anything occupying the menu bar in the centre of their screen right now?

I have nothing. Curious to know about other users.
 
totally different thing and not even comparable. Bezels were always present and so was the chin. You example is not relevant for this case

White/grey bezels on the iMacs? Would never happen. Still a chin on the iMac? Won’ t happen, etc.
 
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