I dunno. Skip the cable too. Unless there is an option for which cable. I have not used the MagSafe charger since it went away the first time. In the office Mac is plugged into my Thunderbolt dock and at home it's connected to my USB-C monitor. No need for the MagSafe. When I travel I use UCB'S to charge since that also charges my iPhone, iPad, headphones, etc. I can use one cable for all. OK, I bring two with me on the off chance I need to charger more than one device at the same time. I really cannot see the value in bringing a dedicated cable with me. Granted, I guess there is always that possibility of someone tripping over my cord, but that really is not a high concern - a little forethought goes a long way.I have three at 70 watts or higher. All of them are non-Apple. The lack of a charger just means there is one less charger I have to leave in a box. Include the cable and skip the charger.
You can just move to the US. We’re a complete disaster but at least you’d get a charger with your laptop.I agree… if you’re going to buy a premium laptop, you at least expect a charger.
I think that it's the law original spirit:
Unbundling the sale of the charging device from the sale of the electronic device
When an economic operator offers consumers and other end-users the option to acquire the covered radio equipment together with a charging device (external power supply), the economic operator must also offer the consumers and other end-users the option of acquiring this radio equipment without any charging device.
Consumers will thus be able to purchase a new electronic device without a new charging device.
So where is the option that includes a charger for the same price?
Probably worth mentioning in the article, that the cost of the base model went down by 100€. M4 base config was 1899€ in Germany, M5 base config is 1799€ now.
This thread is filled with outrage without a single person actually checking the numbers.
On the whole, I think I'd take EU consumer laws where Apple can be forced to repair devices upto 7 years after purchase versus a free power adapter.
Part of the regulation requires clear labeling indicating you are buying an EU approved product that comes without a chargers, so it is in the buyer to pay attention and buy the charger if they need it.It's all very well saying people should already own an appropriate charger but what about the first-time buyer or someone whose charger is old and possibly unsafe? Not a great way to greet a new customer. Personally, I think it's shabby.
You do know that Apple also lowered the price by €100, right?You’re cheering on a reduction in product value?
I guess there are no rules in Swizerland that a charger must be included?Just one clarification point. It isn’t because of the EU. How do I know you might ask (correctly so). Switzerland is not part of the EU, never has been. It is the country in the middle of Europe where iPhone mirroring is available, where all the rules of for the EU where never applied. We had the immediate release of Apple Intelligence, iPhone mirroring (as written), live translations on AirPods. All of it. And yet the charger for the MBP is also optional. It is a hidden price hike in the non US markets to offset the decreased revenues in the US due to tariffs. The computer costs the same, tariffs or not. But “other countries” have a price increase, due to the lack of an accessory, that helps to offset the price increase the US customers would otherwise have suffered. The rest is just fiction.
Final note: the law mentioned in the article does not apply in Switzerland. Because we are not part of the EU, and never have been.
My personal take is that this is one of the smartest moves by a company to spread the cost of US tariffs to “the rest of the world” and one many other companies will copy soon enough. Do I like it? Not a bit!!
Take it up with the EU.This is nowhere near a rational decision like there would be with a phone charger.
Not disagreeing there. but, as I said, (my) reading between the lines is to reduce the number of chargers out there. If all devices support USB-C and most (all?) blocks are USB-C, then all devices can use a compatible USB-C to USC-C cable. And you can mix and match blocks and cords and devices.Problem was never on the charger side of the cable. Apple Plug was always USB-A/-C, the device side was an „environmental“ problem according to EU (with 30-pin and Lightning).
Fortunately most people don’t drive 200 - 309 miles on a typical day and mainly charge to 80% so their car will be “fully” charged overnight even on a regular plug (especially in Europe with more common 240v outlets). If you are driving on a long trip, that’s what a fast charging station is for.And the car will take 24 hours to charge up as a result.
This is a step too far
IInteresting! So it EUs fault, not Apple’s. Apple is only complying in the optimal way by not including the charger and keeping the same price.There is a law about power adapters for laptops and it starts in April 2026, which assuming this laptop will still be the newest one sold then kind of makes sense.
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EU common charger rules: Power all your devices with a single charger
The EU has implemented a universal charger for electronic devices to reduce waste. All new devices sold in the EU must now support USB-C charging.commission.europa.eu
Tbh they made it pretty easy as the law demands thatEven better for Apple, they get to use the EU as cover for what they want to do everywhere, eventually, anyways.
They probably laugh about it in meetings at the spaceship.
Might be €-$ related . Seeing as the AirPods pro 3 got a 30€ price decrease , it wouldn't be far fetchedCompared to last year's M4 MBP you now have the choice of saving €100 and moaning about the lack of charger, or saving €41 and not having anything to moan about.
So, Apple is now paying us Europeans €59 to have a good moan. Interesting move, commercially.
IInteresting! So it EUs fault, not Apple’s. Apple is only complying in the optimal way by not including the charger and keeping the same price.
To the Bastille with you, Tim Apple! Your guillotine awaits.I think it's about time we start an uprising about this....
"Top notch"? Is this a sly reference to the fact that Mac Books are still sporting that notch on the top of the screen instead of a Dynamic Island?have to admit, Timmy Cook's troll job is top notch. forget what I said about you before Tim, I was not as familiar with your game!!!
Apple theocratically could sell two variants - one with a charging block and one with no charging block. Instead, they opt not to include a charging block, but you can bundle it at purchase nearly offsetting the savings of 100€ you have compared to last years device.Not disagreeing there. but, as I said, (my) reading between the lines is to reduce the number of chargers out there. If all devices support USB-C and most (all?) blocks are USB-C, then all devices can use a compatible USB-C to USC-C cable. And you can mix and match blocks and cords and devices.
edit: typo