New MacBook Pro Does Not Include a Charger in the Box in Europe

[Plutonius]

Methinks the only *real* environmental goal Apple has is the greening of their executives' wallets.

I think is more of a finger to the EU commission.

 

[thebellnd]

That is to get it included in the box, you can order it in a separate box for the same price 59.

70W USB-C Power Adapter

The 70W USB-C Power Adapter offers quick, efficient charging at home, in the office or on the go for your compatible MacBook Air or MacBook Pro.

www.apple.com

Yes but how many people are gonna fish around on the Apple store looking for an adapter? They could easily sell the separate boxed unit on the same MBP config page, but they've chosen to go the way that jacks the price up by hundreds. 😄

 

[headlessmike]

the law requires chargers to be interoperable, using... ummmmm... USB-C, so it's exactly the charger that Apple decided not to ship. This is not because of EU laws, it's a Apple's Wallet law

The law also includes wording that devices need to be offered without a bundled charger to help reduce the number of unnecessary extra chargers sold. So, Apple is just setting itself up for the new law that will be in place while these machines are still being sold.

I understand that people get frustrated about not getting a charger with their computer, but I personally prefer the option of not having to get yet another USB-C charger.

 

[Innovati0n]

Not the planet as a whole, just a continent. Merry Christmas.

And I think we're being naive if we think it won't wind up being a global thing

 

[Imperial926]

It's all very well saying people should already own an appropriate charger but what about the first-time buyer or someone whose charger is old and possibly unsafe? Not a great way to greet a new customer. Personally, I think it's shabby.

 

[AQuantumCharge]

I’m sorry if this has already been posted:

I compared the price of the M5 MacBook Pro to the price of the M4 MacBook Pro (at launch) for Italy, France, and Germany, as well as for Switzerland: in these three EU member states, the price decreased by €100, while in Switzerland it dropped by 50 Swiss francs.

Although both currencies have strengthened against the dollar since the beginning of the year, Apple could also have maintained the same price compared to the MacBook Pro M4.

I personally would have preferred the option to buy the MacBook without an included charger and an even steeper price drop to account for the > 10% increase in EUR/USD since January… but I’m aware that this would’ve been too much too expect since it’s still Apple we are talking about.

 

[TheOldChevy]

Is it Apple decision or is it a recommendation from EU ?

 

[Innovati0n]

It's all very well saying people should already own an appropriate charger but what about the first-time buyer or someone whose charger is old and possibly unsafe? Personally, I think it's shabby.

Anyone defending it would literally defend anything Apple did.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

I compared the price of the M5 MacBook Pro to the price of the M4 MacBook Pro (at launch) for Italy, France, and Germany, as well as for Switzerland: in these three EU member states, the price decreased by €100, while in Switzerland it dropped by 50 Swiss francs.

Ah okay fine. They are offering a discount, good.

 

[jarman92]

So apparently the EU's USB-C directive starts applying to laptops in 2026, and includes this provision:

Unbundling the sale of charging devices from the sale of radio equipment would provide sustainable, available, attractive and convenient choices for consumers and other end-users. Drawing on the experience of the application of the requirements, the emerging market trends and technological developments, the Commission should consider an extension of the requirement related to the supply of charging devices together with the radio equipment to cables and/or the introduction of mandatory unbundling in order to ensure that the objectives of ensuring consumer convenience and reducing environmental waste are pursued in the most effective manner.

 

[pt96hni]

Is it Apple decision or is it a recommendation from EU ?

The same requirements that applies to phones today will be extended to laptops up to 100w in April 2026 so new eu rules.

 

[sunny1983]

It's all very well saying people should already own an appropriate charger but what about the first-time buyer or someone whose charger is old and possibly unsafe? Not a great way to greet a new customer. Personally, I think it's shabby.

You can add a new charger while preparing your order if you require a new charging plug.Not difficult at all.😉

 

[Coizu]

I’m sorry if this has already been posted:

I compared the price of the M5 MacBook Pro to the price of the M4 MacBook Pro (at launch) for Italy, France, and Germany, as well as for Switzerland: in these three EU member states, the price decreased by €100, while in Switzerland it dropped by 50 Swiss francs.

Although both currencies have strengthened against the dollar since the beginning of the year, Apple could also have maintained the same price compared to the MacBook Pro M4.

I personally would have preferred the option to buy the MacBook without an included charger and an even steeper price drop to account for the > 10% increase in EUR/USD since January… but I’m aware that this would’ve been too much too expect since it’s still Apple we are talking about.

It's been posted before but it is ignored because apparently people just want to be angry I guess. It also doesn't thelp that the article is simply leaving that piece of information out.
It's a net benefit for the customer in my opinion. Even if you buy a charger directly from Apple, you will safe money now.

 

[thebellnd]

And I think we're being naive if we think it won't wind up being a global thing

Definitely they'll look at the cost savings in freight and additional profits from selling separate adapters and roll it out globally. Increasing margins sits very well with investors.

Starting in the EU is a nice testbed and the chance to jab back at regulators.

 

[thebellnd]

You can add a new charger while preparing your order if you require a new charging plug.Not difficult at all.😉

Or you could complain to support once receiving it, and return if they don't provide the adapter for free. Every return is a financial hit for Apple.

 

[RMMediccc]

😆😆😆😆😆😆 Let the RAGE commence.

 

[bunce66]

I already have a charger!!! I don't care!!!!!!!

You’re cheering on a reduction in product value?

 

[Biro]

And you can only order a charger if you customise another part of the configuration such as extra storage or RAM. 😀 So £259 minimum extra on UK pricing.

Or you can order the charger separately. Let’s keep it 100 percent.

 

[kxc]

Blaming Apple because of EU regulations — that’s really clever.

 

[2128506]

It’s all to help the environment……🤣🤣🤣

Think about the children!..

Oh, wait. The environment, yeah.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Fine, don't ship a charger due to "environment" but deduct $60 from the cost of the product then!

EU regulations say that companies can include a charger. As long as the device has the option of charging via USB-C, then, as far as regulators are concerned, not having a charger isn’t a valid consumer complaint.

 

[2128506]

Blaming Apple because of EU regulations — that’s really clever.

Too bad every other laptop manufacturer in the existence breaks EU regulations...

Of course it's not another cash grab by Apple, they sell laptops 60 Euro cheaper, right?

 

[Igris]

It IS because of the EU. Apple isn't going to have a special stock of laptops with chargers just for people in the UK and Switzerland. Settings on your phone are one thing. Global logistics of physical goods are another.

If a regulation applies to a large portion of the market, manufacturers will often apply that to everyone in the region. In the US, we often see this with regulations that exist only in California. Even though California only accounts for 10%-ish of the US population, car manufacturers will design to meet the most stringent standards rather than creating separate versions for each state.

Exactly

 

[Igris]

Wow, so a new Mac user buying a MacBook for their relative at Christmas, who unwraps it and can’t charge it? What planet is this?

The one where people voted for this.

 

[NetMage]

I can understand for a 15/20w charger… but a 70w one? What the -

Do EU regulations differentiate between wattage for chargers being included in the box?