Seems strange. So my 2013 Mac Pro and my 2018 MacBook Pro can drive my ultrawide at 75hz but this thing won't be able to?Tech Spec page indicates 60Hz is max refresh rate for external displays across the board:
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MacBook Pro - Tech Specs
See all the technical specifications for the 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro with the M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max chips.www.apple.com
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New MacBook Pro Models Include HDMI 2.0 Port Instead of HDMI 2.1
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Yes, if they have an Intel processor (at least recent Intel generations). I am looking at 2020 - 2021 HP Omen laptops, and the ones with Intel processors typically have either 1 Thunderbolt 3 or 1 Thunderbolt 4 port.
Whereas none of the HP Omen 2020 - 2021 laptops with an AMD CPU that I have seen have a Thunderbolt port - they instead have a USB 3-C ports that support DisplayPort 1.4.
My observations are based on what Micro Center and Best Buy have in stock. I would not be surprised if other laptops manufacturers and other stores may have laptops that are different from what I mention above.
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I doubt Apple is giving us that bad and SD Card reader, but we'll know in a week or so.
It remains the case though that effectively the new MB Pro's have as many TB ports as the previous generation since you don't have to waste one on powering the laptop.
It's saying up to 3x6k displays on 60 Hz + 1 4k display at 60 Hz. It doesn't say 60 Hz is a limit anywhere here, it says that those 4 displays are the absolute limit.Tech Spec page indicates 60Hz is max refresh rate for external displays across the board:
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MacBook Pro - Tech Specs
See all the technical specifications for the 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro with the M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max chips.www.apple.com
They put in a UHS-I reader and not even a UHS-II reader. So it is already limited in how fast it can go and Sony shooters that haven't switched to CF Express A yet are going to get faster transfers plugging the camera directly into the computer or using an external reader. Canon and Nikon shooters will continue to need our external readers unless you have some consumer APSC model.
I also currently use all four TB3 ports on my 2018. And one of them is not for charging in most scenarios.
One of the things you become aware when you do this enough of is how the TB busses work in different machines. Some machines the ports on one side share a controller and your throughput will be in half unless you copy to a drive on another bus. This was even true on the USB ports too. It was always better to plug your source and target drives to opposite sides of the computer to maximize throughput. Nothing worse than not realizing the ethernet dongle you plugged in to give you a faster connection is being stomped on by the drive you are uploading data from and watching the progress bar surge and stall as controller caches empty and fill.
God these new pros look awful from this angle. And sd card but no usb-a.. meh. Given the pricing it looks like Apple went all out for the graphics community while forgetting about the IT and scientific sector. There is a huge capability gap between the only 16 gb ram, only one display Air and these powerhouse pros.
Anyone that wants to do 8K at a decent frame rate and only use one cable will know the difference.
Aye, I just went for opposites most of the time. I was really hoping for 6 ports, that would have lets me always have my 10 Gbps ethernet plugged in at the same time as my readers and external drives.
I understand apple adding the sd card slot because that was something much needed and asked for since 2016, but who was asking for an hdmi port? A displayport is significantly better than the latest hdmi 2.1 standard, really a waste an extra tb4 port would've been perfect.
The nVidia GPU would be using a dedicated HDMI 2.1 controller directly driving the HDMI port so it would be completely bypassing the USB, Thunderbolt (if present) and PCIe controllers.
If it could drive ANY combination of external displays at 120Hz, they'd mention it. The fact that "120Hz" appears nowhere in the video support tech specs is to me a clear indication that it's not supported for external displays.
It's been a very common complaint and/or ask on this forum since the release of the 2016 model.
Amen. I still use plenty of USB-A devices, but I have piles of adapters and I want there to be pressure on device makers to evolve toward making USB-C devices that can be adapted for USB-A instead of the other way around.
Is there any other way to get 120hz on my lg cx? I have multiple lg cx around the house, I assumed these new Macs had it but was bummed when I saw this post. Like everyone said it’s not a big deal unless you owe multiple high end displays with hdmi 2.1.
I guess I was OOTL then, still sucks they didn't go hdmi 2.1 if they wanted to put an hdmi in there. For a 2k laptop, thats disappointing.
Why would they mention it, they don't in any other Mac spec sheet. They tell you the maximum which is almost always their own 6k screen and how many of them you can drive on a machine.
Anyone have any idea just what exactly the extra GPU cores will do for you if you're not going to be doing heavy video editing or need three external displays?
The M1 Pro has 16 GPU cores. OK, that's more cores than the CPU. So what does this even mean? I've mostly checked out for the past year and I have no idea what any of this really means.
The M1 Pro has 16 GPU cores. OK, that's more cores than the CPU. So what does this even mean? I've mostly checked out for the past year and I have no idea what any of this really means.
The Pro Display XDR maxes out at 60Hz and that is the only 6K display Apple cares about, so that explains that data point.
Not sure how the M1 family of SoCs drive their internal displays. The Thunderbolt 3 protocol does support 4K at 120Hz so Apple could use TB to drive the MBP display at 120Hz for ProMotion and the external limitation could just be a software limitation (lack of driver support in macOS). If so, and Apple say releases a future Thunderbolt Display with ProMotion then the driver support could be added to drive said display at 120Hz.
wifi 6 is present, wifi 6e is missing. Then again there are barely any wifi 6e products out there right now and I highly doubt most people even care or know about it.
Anyone know the specs on the SD card reader? I'm actually pretty interested in that. If it's an old spec SD card reader, I'd find that really lame. One of the reasons why I didn't miss having all these extra ports is because external accessories quickly outstrip the built in ports if you're staying ahead of average.
Yet they specify 60Hz there, so clearly they consider the refresh rate important for users to know. So why would they not mention the max combination if you want all your external displays running at 120Hz (if that were possible)? Makes no sense, especially when the target market here is pro users.
Any application that needs TFLOPs of performance (video editing, rendering, etc.) will benefit from all the cores you can throw at it (provided the application is optimized to take advantage of them).