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New Macbook Pros... new cpus, sandy bridge + ssd + extra usb port

nothing else being updated...

LION update will have light peak + black new aluminum. :apple:

Why would a software upgrade have anything to do with the outer shell of the laptop. I highly doubt that Apple will update the body of the laptop to match the OS. I don't know much about lightpeak either but as far as I know its just a software upgrade if the port is on the computer. The connection you made makes zero sense.
 
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Why, oh why, do people want black macbook pros? The brushed metal look is so much sexier, and the dark grey liquid metal looks even better (the new banner color on apple.com).
 
New Macbook Pros... new cpus, sandy bridge + ssd + extra usb port

nothing else being updated...

LION update will have light peak + black new aluminum. :apple:

I think it would be stupid of apple to release the macbook air 2, the thinest best looking laptop yet along with the statement "the new macbook air, the next generation of macbooks". And then months later release new macbook pros that look the same as they have for the last 3 years. Then months after that release new macbook pros that make the ones they just updated look outdated.
 
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! Apple Remove that sucker and make it a lil more Sleak !

Less weight

More Powerful

2 Hard Drives

How often do you really need a DVD burner/Player ???

And if you really need it at some point there is always the external USB option


......Your Crazy my friend

You mean You're*
 
a lot of people are going to be disappointed after this announcement. there is always so much hype and anticipation and then after the specs/price are released, everyone is bitter
 
Don't raise your expectation too high... seriously.

Redesign + spec bump + lightpeak + odd drop

...not going to happen all in once.

I just hope they go for redesign and obviously spec bump. LP isn't gonna matter for a few years really, and ODD drop eh hopefully but who knows.
 
Why would a software upgrade have anything to do with the outer shell of the laptop. I highly doubt that Apple will update the body of the laptop to match the OS. I don't know much about lightpeak either but as far as I know its just a software upgrade if the port is on the computer. The connection you made makes zero sense.

That is only my opinion, usually :apple: has worldwide conference when they introduce any new designs in their products.

jus ma 2 cents
 
Neophyte question: I've read a lot of talk here about the potentially faulty Intel chip that would be in the new MacBook Pros. Does it make sense to wait for a undetermined "while" before purchasing, or, is it as I assume, that if there are any problems with the computer, warranty will cover it?

As far as all the rest goes, my head is spinning. I could really use a new laptop, and I'd like to get the best 13" I can get, but without thinking that I should have waited longer for the next newest thing to be incorporated into the product. At that rate, I'll end up not buying anything until Social Security kicks in!
 
I honestly have no need for LP, but I would like the current USB port transfered to 3.0 ports, the FW port updated to 1600/3200, and an eSATA port added. Technically the eSATA can double as a powered USB 3.0 port so that will actually save a little space if you provide one USB3.0 port and one eSATA/USB port. That way I get a nice port upgrade and the setup on the side of the macbook will change very little.

Unless they enable LP to be able to be utilized by many devices at once I dont see what the point of it will really be. Unless I can hook my external display, and my external storage and input devices on it at one time. What good is it? and even if I could.. What would that cable that allows all those connections look like? it would take up just as much space as whats on the side of your MacBook now.

eSata would've been nice a year ago. Now, I might as well wait another year for light peak. It looks to trounce all over eSata for speed and ease of use.

As far as enabling it to be used by many devices at once that really is the idea. You're supposed to be able to daisy chain devices together, and the it's 10Gb/s transfer in both directions. It's multi-protocol and bi-directional. In theory, it can support streaming video, eSata, FW and USB protocols all over the one cable. They even talk about how a USB port on one LP connected device shows up as a direct connected USB device on a daisy chain connected host system. They don't say it specifically, but eSata should work the same.

That's the good news, the bad news it that it's still a year (or so off). But once it does show up, if someone wants to build an eSata connector into a multi-function light-peak enabled box, they should be able to do that, daisy chain it in, and whammo - you would have an eSata port available to your computer, and it would probably be able to work at full eSata speeds (unless you've already saturated your 10Gb/s).

I'm sure it'll all be a bit more difficult than that, but conceptually, anyway, that's the way it is supposed to work.
 
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! Apple Remove that sucker and make it a lil more Sleak !

Less weight

More Powerful

2 Hard Drives

How often do you really need a DVD burner/Player ???

And if you really need it at some point there is always the external USB option


......Your Crazy my friend
I use it a lot and im not going to pay $1200 for a machine with no dvd player/burner.
 
eSata would've been nice a year ago. Now, I might as well wait another year for light peak. It looks to trounce all over eSata for speed and ease of use.

As far as enabling it to be used by many devices at once that really is the idea. You're supposed to be able to daisy chain devices together, and the it's 10Gb/s transfer in both directions. It's multi-protocol and bi-directional. In theory, it can support streaming video, eSata, FW and USB protocols all over the one cable. They even talk about how a USB port on one LP connected device shows up as a direct connected USB device on a daisy chain connected host system. They don't say it specifically, but eSata should work the same.

That's the good news, the bad news it that it's still a year (or so off). But once it does show up, if someone wants to build an eSata connector into a multi-function light-peak enabled box, they should be able to do that, daisy chain it in, and whammo - you would have an eSata port available to your computer, and it would probably be able to work at full eSata speeds (unless you've already saturated your 10Gb/s).

I'm sure it'll all be a bit more difficult than that, but conceptually, anyway, that's the way it is supposed to work.

That just makes it sound like it's fast FW that allows a display in the chain.
 
USB 3.0 Dead? I doubt it.

Wow people. It won't be anything more than a spec jump to sandy bridge. No massive redesign, no light peak.

Light peak is coming, but Apple will announce it when it can simultaneously announce peripherals for it. BTW - it won't be called light peak, because initially it won't be optical. But it will still be plenty fast enough.

I won't switch unless and until it can support FW target disk mode style of operation. Man is that useful. Myself, I'm a huge fan of FW, and would love to see the adoption of FW1600 or 3200, but since THAT is not going to happen, I'll just hang on as long as I can...

:D

It's funny to see USB3 more or less DOA. Even the PC junkies I know no longer have it on their radar...

I agree with dernholm.

Interface changes seem to take years before they take hold, so I don't see USB 3.0 or Light Peak taking over any in any big way anytime soon, though certainly there will be entries into the marketplace in the meantime (though in small volume I think).

Seems to me the interfaces that are most universal are the ones that will win out. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if USB 3.0 (which already is available (sort of)) becomes the dominent new interface, potentially replacing SATA. Won't happen for another year, at a minimum. At 5 Gb/s, its got a lot of legs to it. The fastest hard drives out there (SSD excluded) aren't running anywhere close to running that fast, and external storage, typically running at lower spin speeds, is even slower.

I could see Apple introducing hardware with Light Peak at some time (not now, though), if they really believe in the technology, for one reason or another. Apple seems to take a conservative approach to new PC hardware, so I think we can forget about something like Light Peak (or USB 3.0) for the new MBPs next week.
 
That just makes it sound like it's fast FW that allows a display in the chain.

I like the word "just" there. :D There's a bit of a trick to that.

Despite all the hype about bandwidth/speed, the real advance (IMHO) is the multi-protocol aspect of it. Without the bandwidth, the multi-protocol aspect would be less useful, so of course the bandwidth is important. But the real trick is having disparate activity happening simultaneously across multiple daisy chained devices. Especially things that are very time sensitive (like streaming video).

I think we can forget about something like Light Peak (or USB 3.0) for the new MBPs next week.

Yeah, this part of the rumor is more funny than anything. I also agree that USB 3.0 isn't actually dead, it's just been so long coming that it's lost all it's ability to be hyped any longer. But eventually USB 3 will be the dominate interconnect port on most systems, and so it will have a good long life. And it will be enough faster than 2.0 to be a real improvement.
 
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I like the word "just" there. :D There's a bit of a trick to that.

Despite all the hype about bandwidth/speed, the real advance (IMHO) is the multi-protocol aspect of it. Without the bandwidth, the multi-protocol aspect would be less useful, so of course the bandwidth is important. But the real trick is having disparate activity happening simultaneously across multiple daisy chained devices. Especially things that are very time sensitive (like streaming video).

I just don't get how it makes anythign better. You can daisy chain FW already, most people I know don't, and it's just 1 cable to plug in a display.Would you rather have a long chain of devices hanging off your computer instead of just a few ports? Bandwidth isn't an issue to anyone unless, as I said above, you are a professional and in those cases they are more likely to be using a desktop instead of a laptop for the load of your work.

I feel like people want is just because it's something else. In reality USB 3.0 would be an easier adoption as it already works with existing hardware. No new cables or devices to upgrade. You can buy new devices but only if you want to. Your average user can upgrade to it and not even know it.

THe best case use I can find for it on a home users laptops would be in place of a docking station. You leave all of you stuff chained in and when you get in you plug in one LP cable. From that aspect I like it, but then again most companies already have docking station that Apple has always refused to provide.
 
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