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New MacBook Pros May Not Be Compatible With Some Early Thunderbolt 3 Devices [Updated]
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the new MacBook brings 3 usable ports - since the removal of magsafe the 4th port is using for charging most of the time
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Tim Cook doesn't care about anything. He is now a billionaire and he has being pursuing his polical aspirations since Jobs died. He only cares about politics and global issues.
Haha TI never said that chip should be used for thunderbolt 3, it was made for usb-c, they released a new one for thunderbolt 3 a couple months later and that was october 2015 so this plugable company is the only one to blame for using wrong chip
I'm not sure if someone else has already addressed this, but by my count there are 4 generations of MBP: 1) original (2006), Unibody (2008), Retina (2012) and Touch Bar (2016). Each generation had minor spec bumps, but those spec bumps weren't new launches...they were just updates to the lineup so there wasn't even the opportunity for customers to pre-order. Think of how many more countries have gained access to an Apple Online store from 2012 to 2016. Think of how much more popular Apple has become in Asia thanks to their giant marketing push in China and other places. Now tell me that it's surprising that there are more pre-orders in 2016 than in 2012.
Don't know if that is the truth, but that seems to be the perception. When you're the CEO of a huge company with millions of rabid fans, you have to be careful how all your actions are perceived. I personally don't care if he wants to march in a gay pride parade, but make sure the product line is healthy first.
That presentation is from IDF 2015, before Alpine Ridge was even available. I've no doubt that TI intended the older part to work, and maybe they did for one port Alpine Ridge systems. The problem seems to manifest in two port systems. If the older part worked just fine, TI wouldn't have created a second, nearly identical part for TB3 systems and told TB3 customers to use that one.
My point is simply that the evidence is stacking against your flat statement that this is Apple not conforming to spec.
I still wonder why, as a consumer, I should care how much profit the company makes off of me.
The only way I can see to interpret this is Apple is ripping off its customers, but I don't even take it that way, it's just a meaningless number to the consumer.
The only way I can see to interpret this is Apple is ripping off its customers, but I don't even take it that way, it's just a meaningless number to the consumer.
I just assumed Thunderbolt meant Thunderbolt, or at least only a difference between version two versus three—and two of course backwards compatible. Let alone iterations of version three.
Apparently 'It Just Works' now entails first reading through all the fine print.
Apparently 'It Just Works' now entails first reading through all the fine print.
A hub is also only really useful at a fixed location like at your desk, and needs another power adapter. Not much help when you're out and about.
I think Apple's goal is to cancel all support for 2009 and soon 2010 and 2011 Macs so that eventually, you won't have any choice but to buy a new Mac. Because, otherwise, Apple is giving me little incentive to upgrade from a Mac Pro that is still faster than half the new Macs for sale today!
This is the dilemma with being a hardware company known for it's impeccable software.
When there's no innovation on the hardware side, what do you do? Release slightly upgraded models and discontinue more older models. This is not a great business model. This is something Steve Jobs would foresee, but apparently not Tim Cook.
Finally, I simply don't think Steve Jobs would release Macs that don't have adapters to connect to an iPhone. Tim Cook has single handedly made it more difficult to connect an iPhone to a Mac than a PC! HAHA!
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Cue the Kool-Aid. Apple combines stupidity with ineptness that is outrageously overpriced with no updates for other Macs at all including the "new" Mac Pro in 3+ years now with no reduction in price. So the new Macbook Pro doesn't work right with the Thunderbolt III STANDARD. Why are you shocked? Buy overpriced Apple-Taxed products only and you won't have those issues!
Cue in the Kool-Aid fanatics that tell you that you should be used to bending over by now and so why the complaining about it now? You know you want it! You know you LOVE IT. Crack open that wallet and give your last dollar to the Make Tim Cook Even Richer Fund!
And....
Done
Picked up the last 2015 maxed out 15" from the local store
setting her up as new, and going to actually spend the time to fresh install everything from scratch over the weekend.
Got a helllllllllova deal
No dongles needed here.
And....
Done
Picked up the last 2015 maxed out 15" from the local store
setting her up as new, and going to actually spend the time to fresh install everything from scratch over the weekend.
Got a helllllllllova deal
No dongles needed here.
Wise choice, I've been enjoying mine since the mid 2015 came out, while everyone waited and hoped the next one would be better.
Ah, okay. Thanks for the info. I didn't watch the whole video, but did they try a different port? If it's a shielding problem, then a different port might reduce/eliminate the issue, no?
I'll be interested to see whether the 15'' machine shows the same behaviour.
Then don't buy anything Apple if you think everything they produce is for "stupid" people and "outrageously overpriced". Frankly then I wonder why you are on a Mac forum then. Could it be that you are a "stupid" person that enjoys "outrageously overpriced" products and are in denial?
No, it's clear that the older part works for TB3, and they just released a newer one that offers some improvement, which doesn't mean the old one isn't up to spec. And everyone except Apple has no problem with the old part.
TI's webpage on the older part is here: http://www.ti.com/product/TPS65982
It says it's used for Thunderbolt over USB-C. I'm pretty sure this implies TB3 since TB2/1 didn't go over USB-C.
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Phil Schiller is giving Eddie Cue a run for his money on the fail parade. These are the best people Apple could find?? ffs
LOL the last MacBooks were available from day one. No need to preorder.
"Apple has chosen to prevent..."
Yeah. I'm sure that's precisely the situation
Since it's a macOS thing . . . . Yes Apple has chosen to prevent it
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Then don't buy anything Apple if you think everything they produce is for "stupid" people and "outrageously overpriced". Frankly then I wonder why you are on a Mac forum then. Could it be that you are a "stupid" person that enjoys "outrageously overpriced" products and are in denial?
Nope he's just another troll