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New MacBook Pro's on Tuesday, June 5th 2007?

JFreak said:
DVI port supports S-video output, so all you need is an adapter. I too was not happy about removal of the dedicated port, but once I realised I'm not using it every week and understood that the port was only collecting dust most of the time, I'm cool with having to use an adapter. After all, the DVI port is sturdy and a locking connector :)
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is there an adaptor available for the current MBPs? If so then thats one thing to take off the list for me:)
 
Manfr3d said:
Little updates could be:

standard 256mb gfx
user replaceable hdd
cpu speed bump (to differentiate from macbooks)
price drop

so basicly the same as the macbook update from last month
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like i said, they can't bump the cpu speed without putting the santa rosa chipset. 2.33ghz is the highest cpu compatible with napa.
 
gregorsamsa said:
Not really. Many Apple-based designers are likely to use Mac Pros or 20" & 24" iMacs, which I'm sure Apple won't be abandoning. They'll probably just expand their laptop range & not add any new models to their desktops. Going by current trends, they'll expect laptop sales to increase exponentially over the next few years, whilst seeing desktop sales continue to dip.

Apple not bringing out a new desktop, etc., but concentrating on expanding their laptop range, needn't affect the kind of relatively niche ("designers") market you mention. As laptops continue to get more powerful & cheaper by the year, more people will be using them as desktop replacements anyway. I think what Steve Jobs says (about a time when Apple will sell "80, 90 per cent" notebooks) looks exceedingly likely!
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It's been said for years that laptops will take over, but it hasn't happened. True, laptops have increased in sales and percentage of homes, but they had nowhere to go but up. As the prices dropped and they became more portable, more people bought them, but I don't see them "taking the place of desktops" in a large segment of homes (as I type this out on an iBook G4 sitting on my desk). desktops are still cheaper for those who already have a desktop and can upgrade the system without changing out the peripherals. Most people don't need or use notebooks and therefore don't buy them. For Apple to focus 80-90% on notebooks (as was claimed earlier) would be foolish. And no matter how powerful notebooks get, most designers don't want to use anything less than 20" as their primary workspace. not even the 17" MBP can fill that niche.

I'm not saying that I think the previous poster is right and that we will see an apple with no desktop models. I'm saying that I doubt the validity of the claim that Apple will/can focus 80-90% on notebooks without losing tons of money/customers. Just look at all the posts on this site from people who say they love their little mac minis. look at all the people drooling over the speculated new design for an iMac.

I don't see Apple ever closing its doors to its "Pro" market, no matter how much more of the consumer market segment notebooks steal away.
 
JFreak said:
I wouldn't hold my breath on user-replaceable GPU, that's not going to happen. And I doubt they're going to change the hard drive either, because it's very silent as it is currently mounted. I bet it's going to be a whole lot harder to mount the user-replaceable hard drive as tightly.
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The hard drive actually isn't that hard to replace. You have to remove a lot of screws, but it's a lot easier than replacing the hard drive in the current Intel iMac, which is a nightmare.

If they change the hard drive mounting in any machine, I hope it's the Intel iMac. We've been hesitant to buy too many of them for our labs due to this maintanence issue.
 
juice78 said:
It's been said for years that laptops will take over, but it hasn't happened. True, laptops have increased in sales and percentage of homes, but they had nowhere to go but up. As the prices dropped and they became more portable, more people bought them, but I don't see them "taking the place of desktops" in a large segment of homes (as I type this out on an iBook G4 sitting on my desk). desktops are still cheaper for those who already have a desktop and can upgrade the system without changing out the peripherals. Most people don't need or use notebooks and therefore don't buy them. For Apple to focus 80-90% on notebooks (as was claimed earlier) would be foolish. And no matter how powerful notebooks get, most designers don't want to use anything less than 20" as their primary workspace. not even the 17" MBP can fill that niche.

I'm not saying that I think the previous poster is right and that we will see an apple with no desktop models. I'm saying that I doubt the validity of the claim that Apple will/can focus 80-90% on notebooks without losing tons of money/customers. Just look at all the posts on this site from people who say they love their little mac minis. look at all the people drooling over the speculated new design for an iMac.

I don't see Apple ever closing its doors to its "Pro" market, no matter how much more of the consumer market segment notebooks steal away.
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Well the "80, 90 per cent" figure is a quote from Steve Jobs 2 days ago. Also, any outcome of continuing trends tends to take years to fully materialize. You're right that "it hasn't happened" yet, but I think the happening is an ongoing process & eventually it'll happen.

Some PC companies are already releasing 20" laptops & maybe we'll see Apple get into this market at some point with a Pro model. You say "most people don't need...notebooks", but I think you could just as easily switch that around as being equally applicable to desktops. I think most people would have most of their computing needs easily catered for with a MacBook.

Though I agree with you in spirit, ie. I too am looking forward to new iMacs & hope they keep the Mini, the fact is that recent Mac sales don't bear out the feasibility of Apple not prioritizing the laptop market. Because their product matrix has always been relatively small, I see more new laptops on the way, but at the expense of adding new desktops...even if the Mini goes.

I agree with you about Apple's commitment to the "Pro market". However, the big money to be made for Apple from selling Mac computers doesn't lie with the "Pro market", it surely lies with expanding the consumer market.

Edited for misquoting.
 
zioxide said:
like i said, they can't bump the cpu speed without putting the santa rosa chipset. 2.33ghz is the highest cpu compatible with napa.
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It doesn't mean Intel couldn't have a special purpose Merom out for Apple as well. Dell has the T7600G. We already know that Apple is getting preferential treatment with the X5365 on the Mac Pros.

Still hoping for Santa Rosa.
 
More speculation & wishes

astonius said:
I'm speculating:
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Maybe a slight resolution bump? (1680x1050 in 15.4" models and 1920x1200 in 17" model)
I also like the idea of a magnetic latch (seems likely)

The only thing I would love to see different is a higher end GPU (like an 8800M), though I'm sure it won't happen.
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I'd like to see hot-swappable batteries for sure. A swappable battery/media bay would be drool-worthy for me, helping especially on those longer flights on the crappy airlines I'm forced to fly.
 
MacGuffin said:
Hoping for? Try expecting. It's the state of the art, and Apple is charging state of the art prices.

If the transition to Intel means anything, it should mean that the days of Apple shamefully pushing older, slower hardware are over. We're out of the PPC ghetto now.

Either it will be Santa Rosa or I won't be buying a MBP.
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yeah... hmmmm. my ibook 1 ghz performed admirably compared to any other 1ghz computer i had seen. ppc looked much slower on paper but performance wise it was similar to an athlon for many purposes. 1.57 meant 2.10 p4 or more... not bad for 3 years ago.
 
so im chatting with a mac person on the mac website and they (of course) are claiming no knowledge of an update, but i think they know something...i'll try to interrogate this lady further! ;)
 
I'll be buying a MBP within the next month either way, but I confess to some trepidation because I've yet to see a release that didn't leave a lot of people underwhelmed since I've been paying close attention over the last ~8 months. A lot of this is no doubt due to the incredibly high expectations that a rabid fan base builds up.

Still, hope springs eternal, and like I said I'll be buying one soon either way.

They can change the case design, but I'll be disappointed if it isn't the sleek aluminum look. Its a big part of the appeal.
 
Manfr3d said:
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You mean I should order the current MBP with 5 days delivery and hope I'll get an updated version instead for the price of the old one? I mean I can't seem to find a preorder button anywhere :eek:
If it would be possible to get the new mbp for the price of the old one this way it would be awesome, because here in germany we currently have a 15% discount on mbp in the edu store.
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15% sounds pretty good. in canada we have reg price of 2799$ and edu of 2599$ - approx 8% discount. Then of course, add in Ontario 15% sales tax and it is still as expensive as getting a regular price mbp if you live in say for instance, japan. bother - too much money.
 
juice78 said:
Which begs the question: if Apple indeed re-designs the iMac case, to a thinner model as speculated, will they switch to 2.5" laptop drives? Will a new design be too thin to house faster, larger 3.5" HDDs?

:apple:juice
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Putting a notebook drive in the iMac would please the small crowd who wants thinner and more elegant, but would also cut iMac sales to maybe a quarter of what they were before. It might also cause a significant amount of Mac desktop users, many of whom are already not exactly pleased, to possibly leave Apple all together.
 
I did not read all the posts but has anyone noticed the fact that they are still claiming that only the 15" MBP will get a new LED display.
This seems really strange to me...I own a 17" MBP C2D.
Does this mean that the 17" will not be upgraded?
If I was a betting man I would put my money on a very minor upgrade like the recent MacBook and not the whole Sant Rosa, new enclosure, LED etc claims being made.
Or am I just trying to kid myself so I don't have to go through the "I need a new computer again when I have no money syndrome":eek:
What I do know is that it's great to be talking computers instead of the constant i-phone/TV stuff we have been bombarded with lately.:D
 
JFreak said:
I wouldn't hold my breath on user-replaceable GPU, that's not going to happen. And I doubt they're going to change the hard drive either, because it's very silent as it is currently mounted. I bet it's going to be a whole lot harder to mount the user-replaceable hard drive as tightly.
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I don't know why a user-replacable GPU would be all that big a deal. I know Dell offered it in certain laptops not that long ago. NVidia's MXM slots should make it a pretty simple proposition, and Apple could craft something on top of that technology that makes it foolproof.

For a pro laptop, it would be a great differentiator.
 
dernhelm said:
I don't know why a user-replacable GPU would be all that big a deal. I know Dell offered it in certain laptops not that long ago. NVidia's MXM slots should make it a pretty simple proposition, and Apple could craft something on top of that technology that makes it foolproof.

For a pro laptop, it would be a great differentiator.
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It's a good concept but it appears to be currently limited to custom performance laptops and most of them being 17" or large.
 
I'll try to get a better photo tomorrow, but I may have found the model numbers of the new machines. They appear to be MA895 and MA896, but since the photo came out worse than expected, I can't really tell that well now.. I'd ignore the comments about the price before anyone tries to be clever, that's the standard price for new items added onto the system in this store before final confirmation has been made.

I am not bound by any non-disclosure agreements with Apple, but I'm sure the store's buyers are. They have made the error of releasing new iPods onto the systems in the past, but never listed model numbers for unannounced products. Whenever this has happened, new items are usually released within a week.

Some already know where I work, for those that don't and for my own reasons, I will not reiterate here.
 

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