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New MacBook Pros only reach 500 Nits on non-HDR content, measured by Notebookcheck
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totally unscientific, but coming from a 2019 16" model, this new 16" is burning out my retinas at full brightness on standard content (safari browsing, etc.) whereas I always kept the Intel book at max brightness. Keeping this one a notch or two above halfway.
Jesus Christ, reading this thread was exhausting...
Advertising 1000 nits sustained brightness without mentioning that this only applies to HDR content and is not achievable with manuall settings is misleading PERIOD
Can someone with a 2020 and a 2021 MBP make a side by side video? Preferably both on auto brightness and outdoors (or holding flashlight to light sensor).
Advertising 1000 nits sustained brightness without mentioning that this only applies to HDR content and is not achievable with manuall settings is misleading PERIOD
Can someone with a 2020 and a 2021 MBP make a side by side video? Preferably both on auto brightness and outdoors (or holding flashlight to light sensor).
Yeah ... it's the same as the current M1 Pro and barely brighter than the M1 Air.
This is the first laptop I've ver used where I have to turn down the brightness. It's bright enough.
And the comment "barely brighter than the Air" isn't correct. Having owned both at the same time. The contrast is also jarring. So much detail.
And the comment "barely brighter than the Air" isn't correct. Having owned both at the same time. The contrast is also jarring. So much detail.
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Possibly.
Again, not anything too scientific, but putting them side-by-side for the first time I agree the brightness is similar. But the M1 model is much harder for me to look at. Actually doing the comparison I think the M1 model screen has a bluer tint by default. Maybe this is causing my eye strain.
I am into hobby photography and do a lot of photo editing - hence I keep True Tone off as one of the first things I set up on both machines. Also disabled auto-brightness.
FWIW...
Yes, this is the first laptop I've ever turned down the brightness, and I am wondering if it's blue that doing it. Once I turn the brightness down it's fine, and not dim. It's an intense screen. Even the contrast is intense. I also own an OLED around this size and it's close, but different.
Not sure what's going on. I've never had eye strain before, and I'm fine the way it is now, but I'll need to make some presets.
I'm pretty sure there's going to be some conversations about this.
It may be I'll just stick with TrueTone, which will be a first for me.
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I live in LA and I just wanted to sit on my balcony and look at text in clear skies which is most of the time. Canceling my order.
Also briefly tested my 13" M1 MBP and the 14 inch in natural light side by side, can't really tell the difference in brightness both on max.
It's been cloudy the last several days, so could not get the same effect of additional brightness on the 14 inch naturally (that I did with the flashlight earlier).
At the same brightness though, the 13" looks considerably more muddled and harder to read; since the 14" contrast is just so much better. Will test more when we have a real cloudless day.
It's been cloudy the last several days, so could not get the same effect of additional brightness on the 14 inch naturally (that I did with the flashlight earlier).
At the same brightness though, the 13" looks considerably more muddled and harder to read; since the 14" contrast is just so much better. Will test more when we have a real cloudless day.
Absolutley disagree. Having the MBP 14" next to MBA M1 right now. No visible difference at all.
Just apple with its usual misleading marketing, hopefully, they bump up the max nits to 650. Just asking for a small bump.
Viewing hdr content? Because otherwise the brightness is the same. How do people not know this?
Isn't that how SDR content works? My OLED TV is noticeably darker when it's not playing HDR content
It is... but no one has ever purchased a laptop with a HDR screen or understands how HDR works in TV.
I'm surprised no one is complaining about how Apple lied about 1M:1 Contrast ratio, since that is only for HDR and not SDR.
The problem you will have with more nits, is that content will not look right because you don't have the dynamic range depth that HDR provides.
You can add more backlight to HDR and it's good because the dynamic range can take it, on regular web/sdr content, colors would be way off.
It's a balance, I don't know of any laptops that has a 1,000 nits display for SDR, does anyone have one? really curious.
That one’s an OLED which eliminates the need for dimming zones. Both tech are vastly diff in how they work.
Look at the end of the day should the slide have said
500 nits for SDR
1,000 nits for HDR, peaking at 1,600
yeah sure, but to the masses don't understand the nuance between the two, it would feel very techy, it should have been spelled out in the tech specs, instead of the "Up to..." even though many tvs use that terminology today.
to say apple lied? no I don't see that.
If this impacts you, return the computer and specifically call out that you felt misled at the presentation that you were promised 1,000 nits but only got 500, hopefully it'll send a clear message to the marketing team at Apple, I just don't see that being a reason people return their laptops.
500 nits for SDR
1,000 nits for HDR, peaking at 1,600
yeah sure, but to the masses don't understand the nuance between the two, it would feel very techy, it should have been spelled out in the tech specs, instead of the "Up to..." even though many tvs use that terminology today.
to say apple lied? no I don't see that.
If this impacts you, return the computer and specifically call out that you felt misled at the presentation that you were promised 1,000 nits but only got 500, hopefully it'll send a clear message to the marketing team at Apple, I just don't see that being a reason people return their laptops.
They didn't lie, they just hid the truth and knew what customers would look at. No one reads the fine print but that's not an excuse to drive up sales.
-Lied about display brightness
-Lied about contrast ratio
Feel kinda bummed but oh well, it's apple.