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New MacBook Pros Said to Launch in 2017 With Price Cuts and Up to 32GB of RAM
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The story makes sense...
Unlike Skylake, Kaby Lake supports LPDDR4. And that will make 32 GB RAM possible without taking a big hit on power dissipation and significantly shorter battery life.
And accordingly, Apple will upgrade laptops with those CPUs and raise the amount of RAM available for both the Mac Book and MacBook Pro.
Not to worry though, the usual suspects with tiny whines will find something else to moan about...
Unlike Skylake, Kaby Lake supports LPDDR4. And that will make 32 GB RAM possible without taking a big hit on power dissipation and significantly shorter battery life.
And accordingly, Apple will upgrade laptops with those CPUs and raise the amount of RAM available for both the Mac Book and MacBook Pro.
Not to worry though, the usual suspects with tiny whines will find something else to moan about...
This isn't and was never a surprise. I was seriously considering a new machine but the price hike made it just too much for a computer I really don't need. Fact is, my current MBP does everything I need except... it's a 15" and not as portable as I'd like. I couldn't justify the premiums. If the top end 13" had 16GB as a standard option rather than BTO, I probably would have picked it up as a stop gap (and I just flat out want a new machine for the sake of a new machine). The machine I want is about $500 more than I'm willing to pay for something I don't need right now though.
I'm glad Apple is pushing USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 but... I'd like some nice docks available and I really want to see the state of external GPUs on Macs.
This reminds me of the second gen Airs (I had one) and watching the prices get cut in half on BTO storage upgrades less than a month after I got a new machine. Good times.
I wonder how long they'll keep the current rMBPs around as well as the last Air? Seems like they have to get the cost of the rMB down to $999. Heck, a rMB with TB3 that I could put 16GB in would actually be the machine I really want. Lack of Thunderbolt support is why I didn't get it when it first came out.
2017 should be interesting for Apple all around I suppose.
The upside is that Craig's List is full of good deals on fairly recent used Macs right now. (So are iPads with pencils. Thinking about one of those for Christmas.)
This release really feels like it was forced and awkward. The event was really, really unpolished. It's like they released new laptops because they felt like they had to but all the technology just wasn't quite there to put out something ideal so we got what we got.
I don't mind. I'm glad they got the machine out even if I'm not buying yet because by the time I do I'd like to have adequate TB3 accessories. That's a big deal. And I imagine the refinement and support on the Touch Bar will be much improved by then too.
I ended up picking up my current machine used last year waiting for a major refresh and figured I'd have it for like 6 months. Not that I mind. It's been a very productive machine.
I'm glad Apple is pushing USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 but... I'd like some nice docks available and I really want to see the state of external GPUs on Macs.
This reminds me of the second gen Airs (I had one) and watching the prices get cut in half on BTO storage upgrades less than a month after I got a new machine. Good times.
I wonder how long they'll keep the current rMBPs around as well as the last Air? Seems like they have to get the cost of the rMB down to $999. Heck, a rMB with TB3 that I could put 16GB in would actually be the machine I really want. Lack of Thunderbolt support is why I didn't get it when it first came out.
2017 should be interesting for Apple all around I suppose.
The upside is that Craig's List is full of good deals on fairly recent used Macs right now. (So are iPads with pencils. Thinking about one of those for Christmas.)
This release really feels like it was forced and awkward. The event was really, really unpolished. It's like they released new laptops because they felt like they had to but all the technology just wasn't quite there to put out something ideal so we got what we got.
I don't mind. I'm glad they got the machine out even if I'm not buying yet because by the time I do I'd like to have adequate TB3 accessories. That's a big deal. And I imagine the refinement and support on the Touch Bar will be much improved by then too.
I ended up picking up my current machine used last year waiting for a major refresh and figured I'd have it for like 6 months. Not that I mind. It's been a very productive machine.
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Eh..I'll just take what they have now. I highly doubt it will be anything newer than the expect Kaby Lake chips coming in December.
Is that really true??
I was just looking at the Lenovo P70 with the same processor and its listed as max ram is 64gb. That's for the 15" 2.7 and 2.9 MBP 15"configs. On Apple Insider they listed the processors as the 6700HQ 2.6 GHz, 2.7 GHz 6820HQ, and 2.9 GHz 6920HQ. Intel and Lenovo's site lists max ram as 64gb as well. So is everyone just spouting the wrong info or am I just confused. Or is this an attempt to blame Intel so Apple doesn't look like the bad guy?
A MBA retina refresh would look very much like the new entry-level MBP. Same processor, same amount of battery, same weight, same battery life. Or are you suggesting to make it heavier by putting a larger battery in or make it lighter by putting a smaller battery in?
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Yeah I come to check up to see how it's going. Sorry?
That's why I said "was"
I am 90% sure Intel will not be ready with Cannonlake by the time the 2017 MBP comes out. Next year's MBP will be as follows: Kabylake CPU, 32GB of RAM, newer gen radeon gpu (still 14nm finfet), 2nd generation OLED touchbar with larger screen, pencil support for the trackpad, Gold and Pink colors.
Over 16GB the RAM takes more battery power with the current generation chips. I think they should have let the consumers decide to compromise on battery power over increase in RAM. I think Apple likes consistency in their line up. I tried to say the last line with a straight face.
FUD....
ofcourse to take attention away from brand new libeup.... same as they do when they spread rumors about iphone 8.
its a securities trading firm formost ....... where manipulations are rooted.
ofcourse to take attention away from brand new libeup.... same as they do when they spread rumors about iphone 8.
its a securities trading firm formost ....... where manipulations are rooted.
So lesson learned in 2016: Don't buy Apple products.
Wait for "real" upgrades in 2017?
Mmmmm... oh boy.
Apple looks at that article, checks their order catalog, and watches pre-orders drop like flies.
Wait for "real" upgrades in 2017?
Mmmmm... oh boy.
Apple looks at that article, checks their order catalog, and watches pre-orders drop like flies.
The price the computer should've been this year, and the specs the computer should've been this year, will be coming out next year. Even so the MacBook Pro will still be a mass consumer model and not a true professional machine. The MacBook Air has been replaced with the MacBook, and the MacBook with the MacBook Pro.
What a joke.
What a joke.
They've done it often, iPhone original got a price cut a few months afterward and the iMac itself just got a price cut recently.
Here is the chart of the prices of MBP going back to 2006 that someone did on Reddit; https://imgur.com/a/zj5zA
Adjusted for inflation, this isn't the most expensive price they've done and they have cut the prices a few times.
Proof that KabyLake support LPDDR4? According to the info I saw, Kaby Lake has the same IMC as Skylake and Katy Lake is just refined Skylake. Cannonlake is the new tick with 10nm node shrink scheduled for second half of 2017 but it is going to have the same staggered rollout with smallest U chips first, meaning that we won't see MBP with Cannonlake until 2018 with 32gb at the very least.
In addition, there is no 16GB LPDDR4 stick yet to support 16x2 setup. Samsung just announced production for the 8GB right now.
Yes, they really lost the Macrumors Microsoft astroturfers market there. That's gotta hurt.
Yeah, It's like they actually listened to all the people on these forums asking when the next MBP update would be, when they really shouldn't. They should just wait and get it right. No matter how much we complain. Because we really don't know what we want. We just know we want it.
LOL.
So really its just Apple's case design that either can't fit a larger battery or the battery costs them more and they don't want to adjust their pricing higher because adding the "Magic Bar" already increased the price (I'm guessing). But technically the chip is capable of 64GB so I don't see why that would be Intel's fault. If Lenovo and HP can use the same chips and get 64 Gb why would you cripple a "workstation class" laptop with 16GB just to make a smaller case?? It seems the answer is looking back at Apple and its choices.
Correct. Unless Intel gets the appropriate chips to Apple ahead of schedule or Apple decides to use the "battery hog" RAM next year, we won't see 32 GB until 2018.
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has released a new research report outlining why he's upbeat about MacBook growth in 2017. Kuo expects price cuts for both new and existing MacBooks in 2017 coupled with a refresh that adds support for 32GB RAM and more, bolstering his belief in the MacBook line next year.
Kuo cites Apple's tendency to price "major-upgraded models," like the original MacBook Air and MacBook Pro, higher near the initial launch "before undergoing in price cuts in the following year" as precedent for price cuts in the second half of 2017. He also believes that the ecosystem for USB-C devices and software that takes advantage of the Touch Bar will become more mature, making it more enticing for users.
Finally, Kuo expects refreshed MacBooks Pros to be launched in the second half of 2017 with support for 32GB of RAM. However, Kuo says this is dependent on whether Intel launches Cannonlake processors on time.
Many customers have been upset that the new MacBooks, which run more energy efficient Skylake processors, continue to max out at 16GB of RAM and cost more than previous-generation models. For instance, the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar starts at $1,799, $500 more than previous-generation models.
Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller, in an email to MacRumors reader David, explained that for Apple to make a notebook with support for more than 16GB of RAM, it would have to use a memory system that consumes too much power. Regarding price, Schiller said in an interview that affordability is "absolutely something we care about" but that the company designs for experience rather than price.
While Kuo expects price cuts for new and existing MacBooks, like both the 12-inch MacBook and the new MacBook Pros, it's unclear whether he expects Apple to offer support for up to 32GB of RAM for the 12-inch MacBook in addition to the MacBook Pros.
Article Link: New MacBooks Said to Launch in 2017 With Price Cuts and Up to 32GB of RAM
I was on the fence but this pushed me over the edge. I can "survive" a little longer on my maxed 2012 retina macbook pro
It's gotten to the point where what Ming-Chi Kuo says can almost be taken as gospel. He's got so much more insight into the Apple chain than most other analysts or rumor leakers.
Umm no. All the chipsets support at least 32GB of ram on intel end.
Partly why I'm greatly underwhelmed by these new MBP's. Such a huge price increase over last gen its insane, and for what? That silly OLED touch bar? And only USB-C ports? Really?