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New MacBooks by November?
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Maybe a new keyboard is in order, I think Caps Lock keeps being activated of its own accord.
Anyway, whatever do with the new MacBook (when it is finally updated) I am pretty sure it will feature all of the updates most people have asked for. Personally I love the design and look of the current MacBook and the feel of Mac OS X. They go together perfectly, so if the change in design is a drastic one I think I might have to scour eBay and find one of these nice white models. Alu design would look like a Dell, as the MBP does. Yeuch!
Is World of Warcraft the best example to compare performance of gaming capabilities? It's not exactly demanding by modern standards (try Doom3 or Prey with the settings turned up or something).
How would it do under XP? Vista, let alone Vista64 is still a notoriously slow and buggy operating system and does not seem to like a lot of hardware very much so-to-speak.
The fps numbers I've seen in hardware reviews of Macs using such dated engines as Unreal Tournament in comparison to iMacs and the MacBookPro and Mac Pro suggest otherwise to me. Some newer games don't even support it at all.
Maybe a new keyboard is in order, I think Caps Lock keeps being activated of its own accord.
Anyway, whatever do with the new MacBook (when it is finally updated) I am pretty sure it will feature all of the updates most people have asked for. Personally I love the design and look of the current MacBook and the feel of Mac OS X. They go together perfectly, so if the change in design is a drastic one I think I might have to scour eBay and find one of these nice white models. Alu design would look like a Dell, as the MBP does. Yeuch!
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, instead of a square box.Ok sorry about that, new to the forum. Waiting for news on the new MacBooks, but as I said before I might consider just grabbing one of the current mid-range ones because I just love the white. But then everything being pure speculation at the moment is making me hold back. If there is one thing about being anTry using <colon>apple<colon> instead of the Apple character.
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customer that annoys me it has to be the secrecy behind every update of a product (I bought a 30Gb iPod Video about two weeks before they released the iPod Touch and Classic)
Well the reason for MacRumors is to help get the best value from your Apple purchases.Ok sorry about that, new to the forum. Waiting for news on the new MacBooks, but as I said before I might consider just grabbing one of the current mid-range ones because I just love the white. But then everything being pure speculation at the moment is making me hold back. If there is one thing about being an
Good point, and that's exactly why MacRumors has been open in one of my Safari tabs being refreshed every minute or so for the past week
Don't want another calamity like that one!As many other previous posters have said the past few days, I'm going to have to be very patient. But waiting for this and Leopard is almost driving me insane! Oh well, here's hoping for SR MacBooks very soon!
Thanks Eidorian and Floptical
Juxtaposer
Macrumors has RSS so you can see when there is a new story, and the forum spy lets you see the constantly refreshing forumsGood point, and that's exactly why MacRumors has been open in one of my Safari tabs being refreshed every minute or so for the past week
Oh nice one! Thanks for that!Macrumors has RSS so you can see when there is a new story, and the forum spy lets you see the constantly refreshing forums
Sorry about that, as I said before, I'm new to the forums and probably about as ignorant as they come!
Thanks Everyone
Oh nice one! Thanks for that!
Sorry about that, as I said before, I'm new to the forums and probably about as ignorant as they come!
Thanks Everyone
Before the Forum Spy, I checked the forums as fast as I could press refresh...If you have multiple websites you often check, there are a few options:Vienna is my favourite free solution for reading RSS feeds, but Newsfire is good if you're willing to pay...
That would be why I used the word "most" when I said most people just want a computer that works. And no, they would not be looking to upgrade but you're missing the point. My point was that they did not care about it when they first bought it, so most people will not care about the graphics card when they switch as well.
Also, let me explain "techy admin stuff" since you dont understand:
"techy" = Technical
"admin" = Administrative
"stuff" = procedures
So.. to simplify.. (pay attention now).. Most people want a computer that just works. They do not want to have to worry about the technical complexities of a windows based pc such as crapware that comes with new pc's, virus and spyware updates, add/remove programs etc... They want to turn it on and go, and most of the time that just involves surfing the net, email, playing vids, music, pictures, and other trivial stuff. That sir, is what MOST users want.
If they want a computer that just works, it should include the hardware in order for their applications to just work. This includes gaming as well. I don't expect enthusiast level hardware but integrated solutions can barely handle a "just works" scenario.
I still remember the line of people coming to me trying to get Lego Star Wars to work on there brand new Dell machines.
Why do you think that what YOU want is what everyone else wants? Am I speaking Greek? Jesus H man... most people dont care about games. Most people that I know who switched from Windows just wanted internet, email, music, pictures, and to not have to worry about viruses. Please re-read the previous sentence until you actually understand it because Im getting tired of repeating myself.
I don't get gamers that come to me when their computers can't handle 3D work. I get parents, teachers, and students
It's hard enough to explain to them that their shine new Mac or even Dell can't play a simple modern 3D game well if at all.
First of all, you referenced "games" in your last post.
Second, what 3d work are you referring to? because if its anything graphically taxing, well... then they should know what the hell they are buying.
and third, if students and teachers keep coming to you, why are Macbooks SO popular on college campuses?
I'm sure you consider Lego Star Wars to have as large of a following as Supreme Commander and be as demanding on hardware.
But it's supposed to just work! I spent so much money on my new computer. It should be able to do anything!
I'm referring to running casual 3D games. FPS and RTS are not the only ones. Lets not get into CAD/CAM or other modeling. I whole can of worms can be brought up on the lack of a mobile workstation graphics solution for Macs.
Everything works until it comes to 3D power. Just because you're in college doesn't mean you're an expert on computer technology. My MUG has several members that outright admit they bought a Mac since they know nothing about computers.
Oh.... my.... god.... Im at a loss for words.....
ok... lets try this again. MOST PEOPLE SWITCHING TO A MAC DO NOT CARE ABOUT $^%&#(@ GAMES!!!!! Get it???? Geez
Also, No.. your computer should not be able to do "anything". If I spend $350,000 on a Ferrari should it be able to tow a camper? No.
There there's no need to include any sort of discrete graphics solution unless you're buying a Pro line of hardware?
The masses will never need it?
Why does Apple spend so much on getting some of the fastest mobile processors then?
The days of dedicated GPU on a low-end Mac are over. As of Intel-era, there will not be a dedicated GPU on anything but PRO line of computers. Integrated chip may evolve over time, but graphics on a non-pro Mac will continue to suck.
Yep, but sadly not even everyone responsible for IT purchases truly know about technology. I used to love that every Apple had a dedicated GPU so no matter what you bought had a crisp and clear image. Not anymore.
A certain finnish publishing house keeps buying MacBooks because they're cheap. They keep wondering why the image is fuzzy on their computers. Once I was there troubleshooting their problems and we compared image between my MBP and their MB's, and what a difference! MacBooks are so much softer even when using external display, which puts the blame on GPU (or lack of). I had to explain what a dedicated GPU does to their IT manager and only seeing the situation by himself made him convinced.
Anyway, currently I cannot recommend anything but Pro line computers (even though I surely recommend anything Apple if a PC is an option for somebody).
Can't quite believe that somebody's getting so stressed over a simple discussion. I think it's fair to say that the integrated graphics are fine for low-end switchers (Mac Mini owners like myself) but what Eidorian is saying is that when it comes to the best selling model (MacBook) they should seriously consider at least a slight update. I find that my Mini will do most things that I ask of it (e-mail, surfing, entertainment, and music editing via Logic) but I now want a faster, upgradeable and more portable solution. The main reason that I want this is due to a lot of recent trouble with multi-tasking - sorry to say but the Mini just doesn't cut it anymore. Once I have the MacBook, then I will also be able to open the Mini to upgrade the RAM without worrying about damaging it and not being able to access the internet/record music.
As we are all aware, the Mac ethos is 'it just works', but at the moment that doesn't seem to cut it when the only games or 3d apps you can use are over 2 years old. If your friends only want a computer that does e-mail/surfing/entertainment then may I suggest a G4 iMac or the equivalent. That machine also 'just works' as it will still run OS X. And the 'just works' idea is based entirely around how easy it is to do anything using OS X. Don't get me wrong, the Mini is a great switchers machine, but the MacBook (At over twice the price in the UK at least) should at least have a few modern additions that allow it to compete with similarly priced PC Notebooks. I'm just going to be patient and see what Mr Jobs has in store.
Juxtaposer
P.S - regarding the Ferrari, I was just out for a drive and saw a Ferrari owner towing a caravan - should I give him a slap for you?