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New MacBooks by November?

Multimedia said:
I don't see Apple offering a faster 32-bit MB than the bottom of the line 64-bit MBP. Makes no sense. No with the 64-bit Leopard shipping end of this month will come a 64-bit MB @ 2.2GHz.
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The only reason I could see it happening is to offer another reason to (try and) compel folks to buy MBPs, instead.

Nothing wrong with my Gen1 MB, but I do want something a bit faster. And the MBP just doesn't offer the "bang for the buck" for what I use my MB for, but if the next MB isn't on Santa Rosa, then I'd hold my nose (and open my wallet) and get the MBP for the added performance from the 4GB.
 
I am on the verge of buying my very first Mac. I want a MB but I am waiting to see what happens at the end of the month.

I sure hope the prices don't go up with the upgrades. If they do, I'll be forced to buy a Mac Mini and use with my existing equipment. I would much rather have the Macbook. Maybe I'll buy a refurb instead?

Can't wait to see what happens.
 
So i've already bought a MB white 2,16 - think i get it at thuesday
should i wait to open the box and send it back? any ideas?

I've already thought a long time whether to buy MB or MB Pro cause of the SR chipset :-/ so it's very disappointing for me waiting a long shipment time and now there is a rumor about a new release...
 
This rumor makes the most sense. Leopard will be in the spotlight for some time, and an update to the macbook is just enough to get consumers interested in it for Christmas. Face it, November and December are geared for consumer sales : ipod, iphone, macbook and imac. I would expect some bigger hardware/new products at MWSF. (macpro, subnotebook, etc)
 
Cancel Your MB Order If It's Stock Not Custom

Neverland said:
So i've already bought a MB white 2,16 - think i get it at thuesday
should i wait to open the box and send it back? any ideas?

I've already thought a long time whether to buy MB or MB Pro cause of the SR chipset :-/ so it's very disappointing for me waiting a long shipment time and now there is a rumor about a new release...
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If I were you I would phone Apple right now and tell them you have changed your mind and decided you don't want that MB. They will send you a label PDF and pay for the return shipping. Do not open it. If you open it, you own it and can't return it. Also, it can't be a custom order. You can only return a STOCK unit.
 
Shows how great the Buyer's Guide is.

samh004 said:
Personally I think it's a little early for a MacBook revision, and not just because I bought so recently.
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I'm thinking of buying a Macbook soon, so I checked the Buyer's Guide yesterday. If you look, there is only one year when the Macbooks haven't been updated in either October or November and in that year they were updated in July. It seems like they are normally updated twice a year. Also, it looks like the MBPs almost always get an refresh in Oct/Nov too, so perhaps everyone will be happy.

I decided yesterday to wait till the middle of November. Thinksecret read my mind! :cool:

On a worrying side note: Apple's strategy in April 2005 for releasing Tiger was interesting. They announced Tiger's release on a Tuesday early in the month before releasing it on almost the last day. Unless there is an announcement later today, I would begin to wonder if the 26th is going to turn out correct. And where is the Gold Master? :confused:
 
safetyobc said:
I am on the verge of buying my very first Mac. I want a MB but I am waiting to see what happens at the end of the month.

I sure hope the prices don't go up with the upgrades. If they do, I'll be forced to buy a Mac Mini and use with my existing equipment. I would much rather have the Macbook. Maybe I'll buy a refurb instead?

Can't wait to see what happens.
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As I said before, Santa Rosa's hardware price points are identical to the previous Napa ones.
 
I Hope ThinkSecret is WRONG.

I really hope this ThinkSecret rumor is wrong about the Macbook being the only hardware updated before the holidays. It's been what, 149 days since the last Macbook update?? It's been over 400 for the Mac Pro if you don't count the octo-core option and RAID card. Still, the Mac Pro is the oldest horse in the barn.

Whether ThinkSecret is right or wrong I went ahead and submitted my feedback to the Mac Pro team (link in signature). I let them know exactly how I feel about this rumor. :mad:


(and I'm sure it was immediately moved to the Trash :p )
 
Last updates....
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//

MacBook - May 15, 2007
MacBook Pro - June 05, 2007

If there's an update soon, it will be the MacBook first. Makes sense, I can see parents buying them for their kids as Xmas gifts for school.

Maybe the we'll see an updated MacBookPro in January at MacWorld. I doubt it will be before then.

A MacPro update for Leopard would also make sense, but they may save that for January as well.
 
Columbus Day Puts The Announcement For Leopard Shipping Date To Wednesday

boxandrew said:
On a worrying side note: Apple's strategy in April 2005 for releasing Tiger was interesting. They announced Tiger's release on a Tuesday early in the month before releasing it on almost the last day. Unless there is an announcement later today, I would begin to wonder if the 26th is going to turn out correct. And where is the Gold Master? :confused:
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The holiday on Monday always causes new announcements to happen on Wednesdays instead of Tuesdays. This year Wednesdays have been the new Tuesday almost all the time in spite of no Monday holiday.
 
Just checked Apple Education Store again...things have changed since Sunday...

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It looks like the 15-inch is coming into better supply, but the 17" is still at 2-3 weeks.
 
I saw a Dell XPS M1330 the other day - note I hate Dell - and I thought it looked slicker and better than a Macbook. The White macbooks have a different shade of white inside the laptop and it looks a bit shoddy. The blackbook suffers from fingerprint-mania. The macbooks have razor edges for your wrists to rest on.

It's a sad day that Dell beat Apple for design - new design refresh pls.
 
Mac Pros are way overdue

Concur with the other Mac Pro users. Apple has updated every significant product line (phones, pods, iMacs, MacBooks, Airport, software )this year except the Mac Pros and OSX. By my calculation, it's been appx 429 days since introduction of the current configuration, over twice as long as their normal refresh schedule. Since then Nvidia has come out with the 8800 video card, ATI the 2900 series, RAM prices have dropped significantly and base RAM configurations have gone up across the board, storage costs have dropped dramatically and capacities have sky-rocketed, HD optical drives are available, eSATA capability has become wide spread and Intel has announced Penryn. Given all of the above, the Mac Pro refresh is very very overdue.

Like other respondents, I've been sitting on a couple grand waiting on the Pro refresh. At this point I don't want to get burned by paying twice the price for half the capability.

For all of you in the Apple tips/secrets business, how about spending a little less time (for awhile) tracking down the latest iPod Nano color or iPhone 3rd party app and help out those of us who use the Mac Pro for a living. We're not hard to please. Give us one significant Mac Pro refresh (soon) and we'll go away for another 400 days...!
 
Bah.

Incremental updates of the mac book and pro lines don't strike me as anything noteworthy.

It's not _news_ until they come out with either:

a) a touch-screen laptop with the twist-around screen (like the gateway laptop that can be used as a laptop or a tablet). Multi-touch and some iPhone -like interface items would be nice, but ultimately optional here.

b) a flash storage based laptop. They make, what, 60GB cf cards now? A mac laptop with 1 internal cf slot dedicated to storage and 1 to 3 open cf slots, usable for storage OR peripherals, would be nice.

c) now that they've got a regular deal with AT&T, where's an AT&T supported PC-card cell/mobile modem with OS X drivers and software? Where's a mac laptop with that as an Apple Store accessory? (I'd prefer a EVDO or WiMAX product over an EDGE one, but EDGE will do)

When they release mac laptops with those features, let me know. Until then, it's just maintenance mode. Nothing to get excited about.
 
netdog said:
ThinkSecret isn't exactly reliable. I am waiting for 9to5 to speak.
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Digitimes is the most reliable MR site, lol.

TS has been wrong too many times. But I guess no one noticed they claimed the MB could have as high as a 2.2Ghz CPU, lol. The MBP doesn't even have the speed bumped standard 2.6Ghz Merom, let alone the 2.8 Extreme. Both the MBP & MB should be updated before MWSF with faster Merom's; and at MWSF, Apple should announce Penryn on the MBP, along with 17in LED screen, along with 128GB RAID 0 Samsung SSD option for the 17in MBP, just like Alienware does. Funny how all sites are now reporting that SR supports 800Mhz DD2 RAM, when just 3 months ago, almost everyone here on MR was ranting and raving about how SR did not support 800Mhz mem, only 667 (even if the speed increase by using 800Mhz is *very* minor).

Dell has 64GB speedy Samsung SSD option on their 13.3in 4lb lightweight, the MB is a slacker.
 
Multimedia said:
If I were you I would phone Apple right now and tell them you have changed your mind and decided you don't want that MB. They will send you a label PDF and pay for the return shipping. Do not open it. If you open it, you own it and can't return it. Also, it can't be a custom order. You can only return a STOCK unit.
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Thanks to your answer - but since i'm from germany my contract regulations and return informations from the german apple store said i can return CTO/custom configured hardware within 14-days. I've orderd an engraved ipod too, so this part of the shipment i have to keep. Any ideas for that?
 
Wild-Bill said:
I really hope this ThinkSecret rumor is wrong about the Macbook being the only hardware updated before the holidays. It's been what, 149 days since the last Macbook update?? It's been over 400 for the Mac Pro if you don't count the octo-core option and RAID card. Still, the Mac Pro is the oldest horse in the barn....
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I think you read the press release wrong.

They didn't say it was the *only* hardware update before Christmas, they said it was the *last* one.

Since they also stated it will be happening after the release of Leopard, there is still the possibility that hardware revisions or even entirely new products will be announced with Leopard later this month.
 
Santa Rosa Logic Will Be The First Fully 36-bit MacBook

Multimedia said:
The big change won't be its speed but rather it's ability to see and use 4GB of ram from a fully 64-bit logic chipset inside. Combine that with Leopard and it should be noticeably faster than the current model.
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The current MacBook has the Napa64 platform - the CPU is fully 64-bit capable. 64-bit virtual memory and 64-bit instructions are fully supported by the hardware (but not in a very useful way by OSX).

The restriction is that Napa64 has 32 physical address lines to memory - and since some physical addressing is needed for hardware and OS purposes only about 3.4 GiB of RAM is usable by the system.

And guess what - Santa Rosa adds 4 bits, it has 36 physical address lines on the chipset instead of 32.

Santa Rosa may be faster because of its faster memory bus, it may be faster because the chips clock slightly faster, it may be faster because you can use 4 GiB instead of 3.4 GiB (if you have a true 64-bit OS) - but it's not faster because it's "fully 64-bit".
 
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