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New MacBooks by November?

Just hoping for a MB with leopard and something better than the GMA950 in stores in sufficient quantity by the time turkey day rolls around.
 
Multimedia is almost always right about what "should" happen, but has a poor record on timing and a spotty record on if it happens at all as he suggests.

I do believe a MacPro update will follow very shortly after Leopard being released, and in fact the scheduling of the Xeon chip update seems to have been a factor in the rescheduling of Leopard.

As for Santa Rosa and a "pure" 64 bit product line, I have said for several months now that at MWSF Steevie-poo will announce full 64 bit computer line support. Makes sense.

He likes "insanely great" announcements. Lately he has changed the words to "stunning" and "like magic" and "really cool", which for a Mac Geek isn't quite as familiar, but to the new Apple customers around us, they can pick their poison.

I am convinced Apple has gone completely mainstream now because my GF got an iPhone and my Mom got a PB17, not because I had input, but because that is what they wanted and felt filled their needs.

That is stunning. :)

As for folks begging to be employees or family members just to get a MacBook paid for, know this. All you have to do is adjust your lifestyle so you devote all your waking hours to rockets all the time, and attend rocket test events 2 weekends a month at the most remote and desolate locations in California, then take a huge cut in pay.

Let's roll!

Rocketman
 
Multimedia said:
If I were you I would phone Apple right now and tell them you have changed your mind and decided you don't want that MB. They will send you a label PDF and pay for the return shipping. Do not open it. If you open it, you own it and can't return it. Also, it can't be a custom order. You can only return a STOCK unit.
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Opened box is returnable, minus 10% restocking fee if returned within 14 days. No returns after 14 days.

Edit: Built to order, engraved items cannot be returned.
 
Rocketman said:
As for folks begging to be employees or family members just to get a MacBook paid for, know this. All you have to do is adjust your lifestyle so you devote all your waking hours to rockets all the time, and attend rocket test events 2 weekends a month at the most remote and desolate locations in California, then take a huge cut in pay.

Let's roll!

Rocketman
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I live in Sheffield and don"t have a job, so that is fine by me. One new macbook please.
 
I need a small laptop for work and as the Macbook is the smallest on offer, that is what I'm gonna buy once leopard is out, but please, please, please Apple, ditch the GMA 950 - it is surely nearly as old as the ZX Spectrum I had as a kid! That change alone would make me very happy. Don't even care about a faster processor...

No more cruddy combo drive would be a blessing, too. And a matt screen option, and... and... 4Gb standard RAM (OK, dreaming now)
 
kzin said:
Bah.

Incremental updates of the mac book and pro lines don't strike me as anything noteworthy.

It's not _news_ until they come out with either:

a) a touch-screen laptop with the twist-around screen (like the gateway laptop that can be used as a laptop or a tablet). Multi-touch and some iPhone -like interface items would be nice, but ultimately optional here.

b) a flash storage based laptop. They make, what, 60GB cf cards now? A mac laptop with 1 internal cf slot dedicated to storage and 1 to 3 open cf slots, usable for storage OR peripherals, would be nice.

c) now that they've got a regular deal with AT&T, where's an AT&T supported PC-card cell/mobile modem with OS X drivers and software? Where's a mac laptop with that as an Apple Store accessory? (I'd prefer a EVDO or WiMAX product over an EDGE one, but EDGE will do)

When they release mac laptops with those features, let me know. Until then, it's just maintenance mode. Nothing to get excited about.
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a. Not many people actually use those windoze machines with touchscreens, because they are a little hard to use. It's just something techie people like to say they have. But Multi-touch will be a big hit. Note how Apple is making Leopard touch compatible with coverflow in finder, resolution independent (works on screen of any size!)

b. No 60 CF cards are available. They do make a 64GB solid state drive but I think it's either $1000 or $1500 for the drive alone.

c. yeah that'll be cool, but a user can also tether the iPhone to the Mac (only Safari works the last time I checked), wink, wink.
 
CWallace said:
The only reason I could see it happening is to offer another reason to (try and) compel folks to buy MBPs, instead.

Nothing wrong with my Gen1 MB, but I do want something a bit faster. And the MBP just doesn't offer the "bang for the buck" for what I use my MB for, but if the next MB isn't on Santa Rosa, then I'd hold my nose (and open my wallet) and get the MBP for the added performance from the 4GB.
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Then I think you'll be getting the MBP. I believe Santa Rosa is firmly in next year country for the MB, after the MBP is updated to use a new chipset.
 
waiting to buy a MB once the rumours stop....

boxandrew said:
I'm thinking of buying a Macbook soon, so I checked the Buyer's Guide yesterday. If you look, there is only one year when the Macbooks haven't been updated in either October or November and in that year they were updated in July. It seems like they are normally updated twice a year. Also, it looks like the MBPs almost always get an refresh in Oct/Nov too, so perhaps everyone will be happy.

I decided yesterday to wait till the middle of November. Thinksecret read my mind! :cool:

On a worrying side note: Apple's strategy in April 2005 for releasing Tiger was interesting. They announced Tiger's release on a Tuesday early in the month before releasing it on almost the last day. Unless there is an announcement later today, I would begin to wonder if the 26th is going to turn out correct. And where is the Gold Master? :confused:
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Are there any big trade shows or Stevenotes before Macworld (is that Jan 2008?)
I thought Leopard would get a big release (although Steve did that about 2 years ago), not sure if they would just sneak it out as a press release at the end of October (hopes he's wrong!)

I have the same thinkings about new MB and/or MBPs. If it's a regular revision/faster processors then they might be announced end Oct, if it's the sooper dooper aluminium slims then I thought they would wait for the next big trade show...
 
Virgil-TB2 said:
I think you read the press release wrong.

They didn't say it was the *only* hardware update before Christmas, they said it was the *last* one.

Since they also stated it will be happening after the release of Leopard, there is still the possibility that hardware revisions or even entirely new products will be announced with Leopard later this month.
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Negative, Virgil. I read it right:

..sources at this time don't expect any other Mac hardware to see a revision before the holidays.
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I really hope TS is wrong as they usually are. I'm hoping the news that the Inquirer broke last week about Apple snarfing up all the Harpertowns will mean we will see a Mac Pro update.

If we don't, then like I said: proof positive that Apple could care less about professional customers.
 
GuntherS said:
If the MacBook will have Santa Rosa and a 3100 graphics card, I will buy one right away!
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I feel the same way, even though it is unclear if the X3000/X3100 driver issues have been resolved yet.

It seems like a no-brainer for Apple to put Santa Rosa in the macbook (and also the mini) since it's more capable and doesn't cost any more, but the original rumor doesn't exactly support it.

<speculation> Sometimes I wonder if some of these decisions are based on chip inventory. If Apple has a boatload of Core (non-2) Duo processors, it can't return them so it continues to put them in the macmini until they run out. If Apple has a boatload of Napa/GMA950 chips, it can't return them so it continues to put them in the macbook until they run out. There's no evidence for this, but it might explain how a macbook update could be coming so soon. </speculation>
 
tuc said:
I feel the same way, even though it is unclear if the X3000/X3100 driver issues have been resolved yet.

It seems like a no-brainer for Apple to put Santa Rosa in the macbook (and also the mini) since it's more capable and doesn't cost any more, but the original rumor doesn't exactly support it.
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Hardware T&L is enabled in Windows for the GMA X3100.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/344093/

The performance is still questioned though.
 
Fuzzy14 said:
Are there any big trade shows or Stevenotes before Macworld (is that Jan 2008?)
I thought Leopard would get a big release (although Steve did that about 2 years ago), not sure if they would just sneak it out as a press release at the end of October (hopes he's wrong!)

I have the same thinkings about new MB and/or MBPs. If it's a regular revision/faster processors then they might be announced end Oct, if it's the sooper dooper aluminium slims then I thought they would wait for the next big trade show...
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I only know what I've been reading on the archives and the Buyer's Guide, but the shipping date of Tiger was announced without much fanfare, just an update to the website. They released new iMacs just after Tiger shipped and they were just an update to the website too. I wouldn't imagine we will get a special media event.

Having said that, Apple updated their pro line at NAB just before Tiger came out, so the MBP update could be in a week or two... :eek:
 
appledog said:
if true, this shows how important the Mac Pro is to Apple these days...
iPod, iPhone, iMac, Mac Books rule. Maybe a new OS if they get around to it.

Update our overpriced flagship? Were busy-- check back next year.
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Ditto.
 
tuc said:
I feel the same way, even though it is unclear if the X3000/X3100 driver issues have been resolved yet.

It seems like a no-brainer for Apple to put Santa Rosa in the macbook (and also the mini) since it's more capable and doesn't cost any more, but the original rumor doesn't exactly support it.

<speculation> Sometimes I wonder if some of these decisions are based on chip inventory. If Apple has a boatload of Core (non-2) Duo processors, it can't return them so it continues to put them in the macmini until they run out. If Apple has a boatload of Napa/GMA950 chips, it can't return them so it continues to put them in the macbook until they run out. There's no evidence for this, but it might explain how a macbook update could be coming so soon. </speculation>
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I have often had the same speculation with regard to iMac graphic processors (current models excluded). Processor bumps seem to be rarely accompanied by graphics upgrades.
 
cliffjumper68 said:
I think they are right just a processor bump in speed. They are still selling well, so why rock the profit boat.
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Because they are becoming an embarrassment compared to the competition. Apple shouldn't have a GMA950 laptop going into the Christmas '07 season.

tuc said:
<speculation> Sometimes I wonder if some of these decisions are based on chip inventory. If Apple has a boatload of Core (non-2) Duo processors, it can't return them so it continues to put them in the macmini until they run out. If Apple has a boatload of Napa/GMA950 chips, it can't return them so it continues to put them in the macbook until they run out. There's no evidence for this, but it might explain how a macbook update could be coming so soon. </speculation>
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I always thought the mini was the dumping ground for old tech. The mini also uses Napa/GMA950, no real need to shortchange the MacBook.
 
As it relates to the Mac Pro

As it relates to the Mac Pro, Apple received a significant bump in sales to the Mac Pro line when Adobe updated their product line. Apple had to do absolutely nothing to the Mac Pro's to generate those sales.

Now we have the release(alleged) of Leopard. I am thinking that Apple is going to let the Mac Pro ride on the coat tails of Leopard. Once again doing absolutely nothing to the Mac Pro but generating a large amount of additional new sales.

Now Shipping with Mac OS X - Leopard will be stickered on the box and the Mac Pro web site will have the tag as well.
 
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