timmillwood said:
Apart from the backlit keyboard, choice of screen (which is also larger), aluminium casing, expresscard.
Some aren't that convinced that it's worth the extra coin though, and I can empathise with that view too.
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Apart from the backlit keyboard, choice of screen (which is also larger), aluminium casing, expresscard.
Some aren't that convinced that it's worth the extra coin though, and I can empathise with that view too.
We need a model between 13" MB and 15" MBP
I would love to see either a 13" MBP or a 13" MB with the option for discrete graphics, though a lower quality card (e.g. Rad X1300/1400 compared to the MBP Rad X1600). My preference would be for the 13" MBP as I prefer the compactness of the 13" form factor but would use the ExpressCard slot (for a modem and ESATA card interchangeably)--yes, I live in BFE
and have no access to high-speed connections--and I don't see Apple offering a MB with an ExpressCard slot AND discrete graphics. I would pay around 1700 or so for such a set-up, which would be about right in light of the pricing for the MBP 15"
timmillwood said:
I would love to see either a 13" MBP or a 13" MB with the option for discrete graphics, though a lower quality card (e.g. Rad X1300/1400 compared to the MBP Rad X1600). My preference would be for the 13" MBP as I prefer the compactness of the 13" form factor but would use the ExpressCard slot (for a modem and ESATA card interchangeably)--yes, I live in BFE
and have no access to high-speed connections--and I don't see Apple offering a MB with an ExpressCard slot AND discrete graphics. I would pay around 1700 or so for such a set-up, which would be about right in light of the pricing for the MBP 15"
generik said:
generik said:
Why do you keep bringing up OS X as if it were a differentiating factor?
The conversation is about the difference between the MacBook and the MacBookPro. Both of which run OS X.
Therefore OS X is irrelevant when discussing the difference between these two offerings.
whatever said:
What? Maybe to buy for your cousin, but many parents get their children computers for Christmas. A MacBook is a great gift for a teen-aged child.
charpi said:wonder if we might see dedicated graphics for mbs now....
Boy I hope not. Unless they can get some cooler silicon off-board, giving up battery life for 12 FPS in Quake just isn't a good bargain for 97% of the market.
Im not so sure they are switching. hard to say. maybe foxconn will make 1 model, maybe they will share manufacturing responsibility with another manufacturer.
my bet is they have several different manufacturers. with macbook split up between 2-3 builders. and just 1 making MBP.
my bet is they have several different manufacturers. with macbook split up between 2-3 builders. and just 1 making MBP.
mdntcallr said:
I thought it was common knowledge that due to the great demand* for MBs, Apple had to find a second manufacturer to meet orders. Hence all the delays a month or two ago. Is it just me or why haven't folk put 2 and 2 together?
* despite being 'overpriced', 'obsolete' POS that no-one in their right mind would consider when you can have a dell with magical c2d for 300 bucks less?
tiramisu said:i really wonder: why not "made in america" or "made in europe"?
The manufacturing costs would escalate and Apple wouldn't profit nearly as much.
ClimbingTheLog said:
I hope they introduce that option. Then it would be up to the customer to pick integrated or dedicated graphics, depending on his[her] needs.
That is idiotic, there are plenty of low power graphics solutions that blow the doors off Integrated garbage, Almost like saying I hope they use the least expensive cheapist solution they can find that uses no power. A computer is a tool and for you to say 97 % dont need a GPU is a lie. In that case they could be using G3s with rage 128's. More spin from the fan club of crapo graphics. What they should do is offer a option for those people who expect a modern computer to be just that.ClimbingTheLog said:
goletastudio said:
Oh it is, is it?
Remember, it is up to you if you want to participate in this waiting game.
scr said:Oh it is, is it?
Remember, it is up to you if you want to participate in this waiting game.
Well, if I'm wrong than apple lied to our company.
Dont Hurt Me said:
Exactly.
Apple using the integrated GMA950 is a bunch of crap... They just went cheap, it has NOTHING to do with power savings. Even an old Radeon Mobility 9700 would be better. I can't understand why Apple chose to do this seeing how they don't support it with some of their own software (FCP, Motion). They should have at least offered an upgrade option or put the GPU option in the blackbook only or something.
We're listening...?goletastudio said:Well, if I'm wrong than apple lied to our company.
Did you try to order through the apple higher education sotre FOR an instituation?
Are you a reseller?
give us the deets
AppliedVisual said:
Exactly, spot-on correct!
The only reason Apple has graphically crippled the MBs is to force more people to buy the much more expensive, and profitable MBP, on buyers whose only need beyond a stock MB is .... a graphics chip.
Really, how much does Apple "save" by using IG vs. a cheap 64MB graphics chip .... certainly under $50. So offer it on the top-of-the-line BlackBook, and bump the price an extra $100, and it would sell through the roof, even more than it currently does. But Apple wants to squeeze every extra $$ out of its customers, so we aren't given the BTO option of a graphics chip in a MB, forcing us to spend an extra $1k for MBP, when all that many want/need is the chip.
iBorg
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Sorry to raise a small but wavering flag here but...
Where the hell are the upgraded MacBooks??!!!
I apologise if there is a particular thread dealing with this, please let me know and I'll go there. But to the matter in hand - could someone shed abit of light for me as to what's happened? It seems I'm the only one who feels gutted about the MacBooks being left with NOTHING being done to them.
Please help... I am in need of it lol
Sorry to raise a small but wavering flag here but...
Where the hell are the upgraded MacBooks??!!!
I apologise if there is a particular thread dealing with this, please let me know and I'll go there. But to the matter in hand - could someone shed abit of light for me as to what's happened? It seems I'm the only one who feels gutted about the MacBooks being left with NOTHING being done to them.
Please help... I am in need of it lol
True, different people have different needs. Some should expect more out of a modern machine then integrated crapo graphics. My guess is 1st qtr next year we will see new Macbooks and they will have more integrated graphics since they kept the x1600 in the pro books. GMA3000 will show in it. Not to say I told anybody so but I predicted the Probooks would get the new core2s and the macbooks wouldnt. This gives Apple some seperation between the two lines. Apple could go cheap meaning speed bump CoreDuo's not Core2Duos and the integrated graphics that the fan club seems to love. Why not? As long as you have the cheap graphics whats the point of throwing in Core2? None that I can see.weiss said:
tiramisu said:i really wonder: why not "made in america" or "made in europe"?
They do (or at least certainly did three years ago, and I think still) make a lot of macs in Ireland. Macs made there have serial numbers which start CK. Apple were one of the top two employers there last time I heard (can't remember if they or Guinness were the biggest).
Sorry to raise a small but wavering flag here but...
Where the hell are the upgraded MacBooks??!!!
I agree... I ordered a MB a month ago and it was lost... I got a refund because I was tired of getting jerked around "oh your mac is here, now it's there, now we don't know.." So I decided to wait for c2d... just principle really...can't justify spending so much cash if I'm gonna get a 'free' upgrade sometime soon.
I've searched everywhere re: macbook update to c2d...no one knows.. that's what you'd expect. Honestly, I doubt they're gonna update it before christmas
I ordered a MBP last evening, and cancelled my order late last night after realizing that it is WAY more than I need. I have been waiting for this Merom update for ages, but I guess I'll have to wait a bit longer for the MMB. The MBP was just way too over-the-top for my use, and way too expensive for what I need.
So now that I'm on this bandwagon...
What's the speculation on a timeframe? Before Thanksgiving?
So now that I'm on this bandwagon...
What's the speculation on a timeframe? Before Thanksgiving?
Following on from this story, apparently FoxConn will be supplying Apple with 15.4" MacBooks/MacBook Pros in May 2007.
Source: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20061026PR206.html
Source: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20061026PR206.html
If it's a new 15.4" MacBook, there's a good chance it'll have dedicated graphics, otherwise what's the point? Apple certainly need more Macs with dedicated graphics in their consumer-priced range. Here's hoping!
It's not going to happen. It would steal sales away from the MacBook Pro, and the cost would be minimal between the two.