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I had to get better touch tool so I could speed up the reactions of my magic mouse... for those of you who say you pick it up too much, or get cramps: that was my solution.
I just feel crippled without the fast 'magic' features, such as desktop switching and lookup.
 
The bluetooth efficiency of the new Magic Mouse will be rivaled only by its lack of ergonomics. :)

I whole heartedly agree. Whilst the aesthetics of the current MM may look good, unfortunately it has the ergonomics of a house brick. A feature of the new keyboard also causes me concern. The current barrel at the front lifts it at just the right angle for the typist. A completely flat keyboard is not a good position to adopt for any serious typing.

Perhaps Apple will suggest it can be raised by placing a book under it. :rolleyes:
 
When the existing Magic Mouse runs low on battery, it sure is nice that downtime is only the length of time it takes to swap 2 rechargeable AA batteries for the 2 that are drained (no more than about 30-60 seconds). While the Lithium option probably means a much longer time between charges, I hope that one doesn't have to swap mice when they forget to charge it when it's close to empty... or more regularly monitor for "low battery" so you can catch it on the day before it is going to be exhausted.

You don't need to monitor it regularly, your devices will tell you when it needs to be charged. It's the same thing with the current wireless devices that uses rechargeable batteries today. I had a Logitech keyboard that warned me via notification on OS X to recharge. They use bluetooth to communicate the status.

Rechargeable peripherals have never sat well with my workflow. It's much easier to swap AAs than to be inconvenienced while it charges. Hopefully there's an elegant solution in the works.

Look at their laptops when they changed from replaceable batteries to the built-in one. It's going to happen the same way, they won't make it replaceable, it'll be tightly glued and you'll have to buy new mice when it dies completely and won't recharge. Since Bluetooth 4.2 is extremely efficient, the battery doesn't need to be recharged that often and it'll likely last for several years.

If more devices can come with rechargeable batteries that would be a as apposed to using them would be a good start.

These are not likely to be replaceable, in other words, once the battery or the charging connector dies, you have to replace the device completely as opposed to simply replacing the battery.

I was ready to buy both, now I will wait. My batteries seem to die too quickly with the old stuff.

A charging pad would be nice.

Now imagine what happens if the built-in battery dies and/or the connector? You have to replace the whole device.
 
It demands a completely different way of holding a mouse that, once you get used to it, works very well and it is hard to go back to a big mouse

Apple should have employed the services of Logitech who actually know how to design a mouse for the productive worker, with comfort being the prime directive.

I have two MM gathering dust in a drawer they are so good.
 
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Can you say backlit??? Otherwise, it is useless. Also a num pad. I mean really, this is 2015.

Numpad keyboards go for $5-20 on Amazon with free shipping, for the two times a year they are useful. If you need a num keypad more often than a couple times a year, then, yeah, get a non-Apple keyboard; I am sure they are not crying over losing that business. For the 90% of the market that is not doing data entry on a regular basis, the num keypad is an anachronism that doesn't need to be taking up desktop space.

Backlit would be a nice way to use the bluetooth power savings, but I'm not sure if the extra energy needed for lighting the keys up would come close to or less than the savings from more efficient bluetooth. Still, it would be nice.

All said, though, the item here that has my wallet open already is the magic mouse. I've always loved mine, although the battery compartment issues with the old mouse are a serious ding against it (my battery door got bent at some point about a year after I got it, and the last several years it has been used without the door altogether). It would be a hard decision between an updated mouse and a pad, if the pad gets similar updates.
 
I still think the current apple keyboard is the most comfortable and the prettiest keyboard available. Better battery and hopefully backlit or something would make it even better. Hopefully they don't introduce the butterfly springs into the keys, those are widely overrated by Apple.

The Magic Mouse hopefully is magic this time around. The current Magic Mouse is the prettiest mouse on the market but maybe also the worst one to use imo... Can't even click left and the right at the same time.
 
Does that keyboard aspect ratio look like it can hold a numeric keypad? Please?! It's a desktop keyboard for crying out loud, it doesn't need to to be tiny, it needs to be functional.

I like the current magic mouse (I don't have any of the ergonomic problems that people seem to) but wouldn't mind a more functional top surface-- pinch to zoom, and Touch ID come to mind.

I really don't like the idea of an integrated battery... I keep a set of AAs on charge and never have to worry about the mouse dying. Most LiPo powered devices seem to have a 2 year life span, but with replaceable batteries the mouse and keyboard will essentially last forever.
I hope they make a fullsize keyboard. My old Bluetooth full sized keyboards are getting a bit long in the tooth
And full of food crumbs...
A number pad would be an anachronism. Anyone doing specialized data entry that would make one useful should get a specialized keyboard, not a mass market one.

Now, a tenkeykess (full cursor key area, no number pad), that would be useful.

A backlight would be great however.

And the Magic Mouse should have force-touch, if Apple is serious about it.
How are numbers "specialized"? With a numeric keypad, I don't need no stinking backlight-- the only time I ever find myself looking down is when I have to type a lot of numbers from the top row...
 
Agree. I bought the Apple rechargeable batteries when I got my keyboard and track pad. I keep the spare third set charging near the computer at all times, and I just swap them out when either the keyboard or trackpad runs out of juice. I always have a set ready to go.

Me too, this means that when the batteries die I don't have to fiddle around, stop working, wait for charge. And if I am working at a remote location, I just pop out the charged batteries and continue on. Meanwhile, back at the hotel, the dead batteries get a new charge while I am asleep and are ready to go the next day.
 
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It looks to me like the runners under the mouse have changed... The current one are like little "wings" coming out from the battery compartment-- convex on the inside and concave on the outside (to better scrape the dust and crap off my desk, apparently). The new ones looks more like elongated capsules.
 
Wireless whatever are obnoxious when wired devices work as well and even better. Batteries are destroying the Earth. Bring the wired Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad with USB 3.1 type C built-in hub and wired mouse.
 
Can you say backlit??? Otherwise, it is useless. Also a num pad. I mean really, this is 2015.

What does the year have to do with built in number pads on keyboards? Built in number pads are almost as old as keyboards. Some (not necessarily me) would argue that leaving the number pad off the keyboard was innovative.
 
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If the new keyboard and trackpad have indeuctive charging and the trackpad has force touch, Apple's gonna have a $150 sale of their hands. :D
 
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I'd love to have apple finally release a good, usable, ergonomic mouse, but with their track record and general regard to mouse design, I'm pessimistic. I get the feeling they'd rather do away with the mouse completely.

So though I'm interested in what they will bring to the table, will most likely continue to be happier with a high end Logitech.
 
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When the existing Magic Mouse runs low on battery, it sure is nice that downtime is only the length of time it takes to swap 2 rechargeable AA batteries for the 2 that are drained (no more than about 30-60 seconds). While the Lithium option probably means a much longer time between charges, I hope that one doesn't have to swap mice when they forget to charge it when it's close to empty... or more regularly monitor for "low battery" so you can catch it on the day before it is going to be exhausted.

Plug in with a USB cable and it is charging straight away. No downtime, you just have a wired keyboard for a while. I hope they do allow it to be used as a wired keyboard all the time.

Another hope is that they will come in black to match Apple Macs.
 
Numpad keyboards go for $5-20 on Amazon with free shipping, for the two times a year they are useful. If you need a num keypad more often than a couple times a year, then, yeah, get a non-Apple keyboard; I am sure they are not crying over losing that business. For the 90% of the market that is not doing data entry on a regular basis, the num keypad is an anachronism that doesn't need to be taking up desktop space.
This is the second time the word "anachronism" has been used for the numeric keypad... What's the deal? Kids today don't use numbers or something?

A separate keypad doesn't cut it-- it needs to be attached to the alpha keys so my hand can find it without looking. I measure 3.5 inches, 8.5cm for the number pad on my Apple keyboard, including the space in between the two-- doesn't seem like much considering it's a desk, not an 11" Air.
It would be a hard decision between an updated mouse and a pad, if the pad gets similar updates.
FWIW, I have both on my desk, and I swap back and forth between them depending on what I'm doing. The mouse gives me finer cursor control and is easier to "drag" with, the pad allows more gestures.
 
When the existing Magic Mouse runs low on battery, it sure is nice that downtime is only the length of time it takes to swap 2 rechargeable AA batteries for the 2 that are drained (no more than about 30-60 seconds).

I even use Eneloop rechargeables, so I always have a backup set ready to go, yeah, < 60 seconds to swap batteries and put the dead ones in the charger, right next to my desk (don't even have to get up :D )

Now, a tenkeykess (full cursor key area, no number pad), that would be useful.

A backlight would be great however.

Yeah, I use a full sized Apple [wired] KB, not for the number pad, but for the proper arrow keys - I would definitely switch to this if it was backlit + tenkeyless (heck, even just the latter, but the arrow/paging keys on the current wireless - that I also own - make it brutal to use for me as a developer, who also moves between OSX and Winders©)

Am i the only one who likes the current magic mouse?

I like it too, heck I _love_ it :) Tried several other mouse options, it was no contest for me. :cool:
 
I whole heartedly agree. Whilst the aesthetics of the current MM may look good, unfortunately it has the ergonomics of a house brick. A feature of the new keyboard also causes me concern. The current barrel at the front lifts it at just the right angle for the typist. A completely flat keyboard is not a good position to adopt for any serious typing.

Perhaps Apple will suggest it can be raised by placing a book under it. :rolleyes:
Could it not be a solid wedge - chock full of batteries to run the backlit keys
 
Force touch would be nice. An integrated battery - not so much. Rechargeable batteries are so much more convenient - unless there's a cable option that charges - like Logitech G700.
 
A number pad would be an anachronism. Anyone doing specialized data entry that would make one useful should get a specialized keyboard, not a mass market one.

Now, a tenkeykess (full cursor key area, no number pad), that would be useful.

A backlight would be great however.

And the Magic Mouse should have force-touch, if Apple is serious about it.

An awful lot of Taxcut and Turbo Tax gets sold every year. Anyone who has to enter a W-2 would benefit from a numeric keypad.
 
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