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New MBP Kernel Panics!!!

Mine is still stable as pie when i leave it on AC power (well, DC really, but you know what i mean :)). If apple dares to keep suggesting (as they did to me on the phone) that I need to get a new router, that is BS. It kind of defeats PORTABILITY among IEEE standards if i have to ask my friends/family what brand of router they use, because my $2500 computer will randomly lock up if it's a particular brand. 10.4.10 didn't make a difference :( Neither did the graphics update or whatever that patch they pushed down was.

Waiting "patiently"....
 
Great...

Well this just makes me feel great. My new SR MBP is supposed to be here Monday. I'm glad I have something nice to look forward to. :rolleyes:
 
What a freakin joke this is! Got my new SR MBP on Thursday and ran it every day on AC and its great! Took it round my folks today and crashes every frickin few minutes!! Took such a ribbing they are not going to get a Mac now.

Got it home and it only crashes when using airport on battery, its fine when on AC.

Looking on the Apple forums they says its router firmware. This is total BS, my old MacBook works fine.

Not happy, I'm ringing Apple in the morning and demanding a full refund, they have this heap of crap back!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Actually looks like a driver issue as Apple Support Forums are getting thousands of posts of the same issue. People are having 4-5 replacement MBPs all with the same fault.

Apple are now removing posts from there forums!!! If this is how it goes I am shocked! I am going to call Apple later and if they won't acknowledge the problem I am asking for a refund and will carry on using my MacBook.
 
thats great man i have a mbp sr 4gb ram and it runs like butter. no problems whatsoever and im very happy with the machine so far.
 
BenzDealer said:
thats great man i have a mbp sr 4gb ram and it runs like butter. no problems whatsoever and im very happy with the machine so far.
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I am very happy to as long as its on AC. Found the apple support forum with 16000 posts with the same problem. Not happy with that as Apple's suggestion now is to change you router firmware or wireless encryption! Erm....bodge job anyone?
 
Widespread Panic

Howdy -
My MBP is 91 days old (so says Applecare when I called) and I started getting the exact same KPs one week ago: dodgy wifi connectivity, when on battery, with my 2wire router.

I haven't found any way to stop the KPs. I've reported the problem to Apple and I'm reporting it to the forum that there's another out there 'patiently' waiting for a fix.

And with any luck it won't panic before I can click submi.....zzt!
 
MB Kernel Panic Update

As reported earlier I got 4 kernel panics in 24 hours when connected to a 2Wire router. Roomate hooked up an Apple Airport Extreme router and I have not had a single Kernel Panic since and no dropped connections as I had had before.

Anyone having similar problems should try switching to an Apple router.

Dont forget to leave reviews of your new machine on such places as CNET etc. Let Apple know they need to fix this and pronto.
 
So far, so good...

I got my new SR MBP today, and i'm using it right now on battery with no problems. Of course now that I've said that, it'll probably have a panic soon. I'm using an Airport extreme w/ Wireless-N. I haven't had a chance to update to 10.4.10 yet, though... Don't know if that has anything to do with it. This is my first Mac :apple:, and I must say... I'm already in love... :)
 
Some good news

One of the posters to this thread that is having the same problem with the kernel panics managed to get in touch with an Apple executive. Needless to say, the exec was not happy at the lack of response we've been getting from the engineers. He will be personally be talking to the engineers to see what's up/an ETA on the solution. Keep your fingers crossed everyone! :D By the way, if you're looking for his post in that very long thread, look towards the bottom, it was posted on 7/9
 
One thing I don't understand...

Why haven't those experiencing these problems been more vocal about the issues? Somebody make a good writeup and link to the apple thread then post it on reddit, digg, slashdot, email engadget, write consumer reports, BBB, write apple developers and apple engineers, etc. Heck, write a letter and mail it everyday to "steve jobs" (like in the apple support thread) until it's fixed, or at least apple acknowledges they are working on a fix.

oh...and get it fixed before my mac book pro ships :rolleyes:
 
I just received my replacement MBP today. Let me tell you.. the 2nd isn't much better than the first. It took me 65 minutes to go from set-up to Kernel Panic. I'm glad that Apple is wasting money on sending everyone replacement upon replacement, and ignoring the issue at hand! It's quite clearly a software issue.

It's definitely frustrating. If AppleCare can give me a timetable for a solution and confirm that it is indeed a software issue, I'd be happy. But if I call and they do try to play the "replacement" game again. I'm going to simply demand a full refund and get a MacBook or maybe even just a Windows machine.

The problem appears isolated to 3rd party routers. But I don't know what twisted world we live in if the only solution I can put together is buying an Apple Router. Plus, I couldn't even do that without sacrificing the interconnectivity of my 2Wire/AT&T Homezone/Dish Network setup.

Anyone know Mr. Jobs' email address? I'd love to tell him about my awful switching experience.
 
I emailed MacWorlds editor about it and it looks like they are becoming aware of it judging by the response I got. Hopefully they will bring this to the media attention as well as this is the only way Apple will solve it.

I'm giving it another week and then I'm getting refund. Its a joke it really is. Still can't believe Apple to me to buy an Airport and thats the only solution!! Pathetic!
 
Just after my last post, I had another kernel panic. And it doesnt' say anything about the Airport driver... but It's getting harder and harder to navigate pages. Not sure what "Darwin" is, but it seems to be the only thing on the log thats in plain english. Does anyone know what this means?

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Tue Jul 10 15:58:04 2007
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x0035D0BB): mbuf address out of range 0x4401a8c0
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x25783ab8 : 0x128d08 (0x3cc0a4 0x25783adc 0x131de5 0x0)
0x25783af8 : 0x35d0bb (0x3ecf78 0x4401a8c0 0x3fb4a2c 0x13fe35)
0x25783b18 : 0x23bc6c (0x1 0x2 0x25783b28 0x25783b28)
0x25783c28 : 0x23a814 (0x4502a8c 0xf96256a9 0xf9625c49 0x4b01a8c0)
0x25783e08 : 0x22f3f5 (0x374dad00 0x14 0x25783e58 0x1a1ee8)
0x25783e48 : 0x230e56 (0x374dad00 0x14 0x6 0x0)
0x25783f58 : 0x21e5cb (0x374dad00 0x374dad00 0x44707c 0x1a37c0)
0x25783f98 : 0x204e88 (0x451ac04 0x374dad00 0x37500816 0x1)
0x25783fc8 : 0x19ad2c (0x0 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x3e38ee0) Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0x0

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.22.5~1/RELEASE_I386

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Great News!!!

According to Freddie in the thread I mentioned above, the Apple Exec got back to him about the problem The engineers have identified a problem and have developed a fix. The fix is in "final testing stages" and will be released pretty soon. No exact timetable, but this is much better news than "We're working on it." Keep a lookout in Software Update. And keep the chins up, we're almost out of the woods. :D
 
I'm still a little skeptical. I have 14 days from today, before I have to exchange again. Hopefully it is released before then...

I laughed when I saw "final stages of testing"... something they clearly didn't do with the first set of drivers.
 
This is good news, hope its soon.

Interestingly enough this morning I took my laptop out before going to work and jumped on the web. Didn't think but after 15 mins realised I was on battery and it hadn't KP which it was doing consistently every time I tried the last few days. Strange???
 
ok, my MBP is 8 months old, the 15"/2.33 and I have just started having kernel panics in the last 2 weeks

Mon Jul 9 23:17:38 2007
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x001A4A55): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 0, Type 14=page fault), registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x61916d51, CR3: 0x00f57000, CR4: 0x000006e0
EAX: 0x61916d21, EBX: 0x1b201d21, ECX: 0x4ee2f328, EDX: 0x08711950
CR2: 0x61916d51, EBP: 0x252abbf8, ESI: 0x4ee26950, EDI: 0x237a22c8
EFL: 0x00010202, EIP: 0x00a68974, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x03fe0010

Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x252ab9b8 : 0x128d08 (0x3cc0a4 0x252ab9dc 0x131de5 0x0)
0x252ab9f8 : 0x1a4a55 (0x3d24b8 0x0 0xe 0x3d1cdc)
0x252abb08 : 0x19aeb4 (0x252abb20 0x0 0x252abb48 0x127ee3)
0x252abbf8 : 0xa41cc2 (0x23934004 0x4ee26950 0x8711950 0x61916d21)
0x252abdd8 : 0xa44059 (0x237a22c8 0x0 0x1ed06000 0x0)
0x252abf08 : 0x39b3c3 (0x237a2000 0x3d89200 0x1 0x0)
0x252abf58 : 0x39a595 (0x3d89200 0x1203 0x0 0x0)
0x252abf88 : 0x39a2cb (0x3eaf080 0x0 0x450 0x1203)
0x252abfc8 : 0x19ad2c (0x3eaf080 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x3ec1040) Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0x0
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros(230.8.5)@0xa10000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.1)@0x931000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.2)@0x587000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(160.2)@0x9f1000

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.22.5~1/RELEASE_I386


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Wed Jul 11 11:50:09 2007
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x0035DC60): mbuf address out of range 0x54
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x252dbd28 : 0x128d08 (0x3cc0a4 0x252dbd4c 0x131de5 0x0)
0x252dbd68 : 0x35dc60 (0x3ecf78 0x54 0x252dbd98 0x23de2d)
0x252dbdb8 : 0x361c16 (0x252dbe3c 0x1 0x0 0x0)
0x252dbe58 : 0x36683e (0x4f256f8 0x0 0x5abc680 0x0)
0x252dbeb8 : 0x366bed (0x5abc680 0x0 0x5c150a4 0x400)
0x252dbf58 : 0x37ad83 (0x4f47000 0x5c15060 0x5c150a4 0x0)
0x252dbfc8 : 0x19b28e (0x5c1a760 0x1 0x10 0x0) No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb07a9d38

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.22.5~1/RELEASE_I386


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Do I have the same problem as everybody else?
 
kensir said:
I laughed when I saw "final stages of testing"... something they clearly didn't do with the first set of drivers.
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lol, for real! This has been so annoying at work. I can't imagine that having it constantly hooked to AC power is great for the battery.
 
new mb kernel panic

for the new release mb and mbp - a lot of kernel panics. please do not download any software updates first. I've done a 2 day troubleshooting over the phone with apple technician and we found out that downloading the updates results to the following:
safari loads webpages slowly, itunes will freezes, wireless connectivity gets disrrupted, kernel panics.
you can try downloading software updates one at a time then run repair disk permission from disk utility before restarting the unit, however if this fill not fix the issue call apple for replacement.

i just hope that they're working on this issue. its better to get upgraded stuff but with this issue... its so frustrating.
 
tboneh08 said:
I got my new SR MBP today, and i'm using it right now on battery with no problems. Of course now that I've said that, it'll probably have a panic soon. I'm using an Airport extreme w/ Wireless-N. I haven't had a chance to update to 10.4.10 yet, though... Don't know if that has anything to do with it. This is my first Mac :apple:, and I must say... I'm already in love... :)[/QUOTE

You're using an Apple router, the Airport Extreme, which is in fact the solution to the problem of kernel panics with third party routers, i.e., 2Wire. Try taking your laptop to the library, a coffee shop, a friends house, or the airport, you know, just the normal places one would use wireless with a laptop, and see how long you last without a kernel panic.

Everyone: Don't forget to leave REVIEWS on the internet of your new Macbook and its system crashing on third party routers. It only takes a few minutes and will be very effective . .
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