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New Microsoft Ad Campaign Targets Mac Prices
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I find you amusing as you've been going at people on this thread with the same zealotry you accuse me of possessing. If you actually read my comments, I take no stance on either system as I have and do use Windows and Mac systems equally. Dismissing me by deflecting your attitude simply demonstrates a breakdown of logic and a reliance on defensive human emotion. You obviously have an agenda, and I have better things to do with my time then argue with you regarding your experiences. Even if what you claim is truth, it doesn't reflect Apple as a manufacturer. I never accused you of lying because of my inferred "zealotry", after reading your comments your statements contradicted themselves and I drew a logical conclusion. Most of your comments contradict themselves, that's on you. Good luck with that.
Oh and PS, it takes no effort to activate your APP and have Apple ship a box to get your iMac fixed. I realize I am most likely baiting you with further debate (which I will not respond to, I have better things to do, such as sleep), but again your comments have no logic. If you purchased APP, Apple will honor it, and if you can not get to an Apple store (as most people can not), Apple sends prepaid packing for repairs. Either way, little effort and time is required on your end to fix an expensive machine (and no where in your previous comments have you stated iMacs are the only Mac that is reasonably priced, until now).
"It's not Apple's fault, but FB-DIMMs absolutely kill memory latency; even running in quad channel mode, the FB-DIMM equipped Mac Pro takes 45% more time to access memory than our DDR2 equipped test bed at the same memory frequency. Things don't get any prettier when we look at memory bandwidth either."
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816&p=11
ok you're right..not half..more like 45%
That's nice, but you're confusing ECC and fully buffered DIMMs. ECC is only about 3-4% slower than regular memory, not 50% as you claimed, and the Nehalem Mac Pro doesn't use FB-DIMMs.
Good Lord, this news article makes a lot of response. I love reading PC supporters. There's a good amount of straight forward logic from a lot of Mac people here, but it doesn't get through sometimes.
THE APPLE STORE.
Now, what exactly does THAT mean? People will go for the best first, and when they realize they can't tally up to price of everything needed to work a PC vs. an Apple, they purchase the second rung stuff.... and unseen to us she pays a ton of money to keep it clean and running and have apps which are cheaper at Apple.
And why do they shove a bunch of bills in her face in a parking lot, as if she's a prostitute? Weird. Consumer 'ho.
She wants: COMFORT, SPEED, and 17 INCHES....
Some chicks have high expectations.
This ad is bizarre. It's really loopy. She wants a computer...so where does she go first?
THE APPLE STORE.
Now, what exactly does THAT mean? People will go for the best first, and when they realize they can't tally up to price of everything needed to work a PC vs. an Apple, they purchase the second rung stuff.... and unseen to us she pays a ton of money to keep it clean and running and have apps which are cheaper at Apple.
And why do they shove a bunch of bills in her face in a parking lot, as if she's a prostitute? Weird. Consumer 'ho.
She wants: COMFORT, SPEED, and 17 INCHES....
Some chicks have high expectations.
Careful, commentators such as Anuba will come after you and call you a "zealot" and brainwashed. The more anyone attempts to reason with them, they will simply deflect and call you a "fanboy" oooooo
Actually that was mid to late 90's. The first clones were based on the PowerMac 8100, and the last clones were based on the chipset of the PM9500-9600.
All of the Mac clones used chipset designs made by Apple. Not all of the machines were equal though.
The first computer I bought after my Amiga days was a PowerComputing PowerWave 604|120. The machine worked great, until I started trying to add components to it. The Miro DC30 Video card refused to run reliably, and I had to try different processor upgrade cards until I found one that worked.
Later on I took that hardware that wouldn't work in the PowerComputing system, and found that they worked perfectly in Apple branded systems.
I like how you judged people about how Macs users bought "useless" stuff while saying you're "not judging. To each his own. [sic]"
I'd guess 2011.
It was such poor form for Apple not to have Itunes running at the Vista release - what an obvious attempt at sabotage of a competitor.
Vista builds were readily available to anyone with an MSDN subscription, or who was part of a TAP program. It was a willful act on Apple's part to not be ready.
Bad form.
Lauren was being sarcastic - she doesn't want to be "cool" if it means being like the Justin Long character or the posers at Starbucks.
She's saying that "Apple 'cool' is uncool".
The Core i7-965 has a number of advantages over the Mac Pro
- Clock is 3.2 GHz, not 2.93 GHz
- QPI is 6.4 GT/sec, not 4.8 GT/sec
- DDR3 1600 MHz non-ECC memory, vs 1066 MHz ECC
- No multi-socket cache sniffing needed - all cache is shared among all CPUs
Since there's no fixed meaning for the phrase "blow away", it should be apparent that the 965 has a substantial performance margin.
Right, which shows the danger in ever using the word "fastest" - because somebody will find a valid case where another system can do something else faster.
LOL, you think that I get a paycheck from Redmond?
What size is your tin foil hat?
Careful, commentators such as Anuba will come after you and call you a "zealot" and brainwashed. The more anyone attempts to reason with them, they will simply deflect and call you a "fanboy" oooooo
That's a shame.
But, it IS true. This ad has this loopy girl going to Apple first... so she probably WANTED an Apple. Most people probably go that way, anyway.
When you add up all the stuff you need to make a PC into a fairly comparable Mac, you tend to break even or spend more. Once you put in the time you spend to make the PC work, you realize you are losing money by losing time and life.
Whaaaaa???? Are you drunk or something? Please post descriptive thoughts and use quotes where appropriate to back up your statements/questions/comments/queries.
You can always try EFI-X... But that might be pricey (tho not as pricey as a Mac Pro... if you build your own desktops....)
It looks like a frame from a MILF video.
The choice of how they played the story in this advert makes me think it was made by either a Mac lover or someone that hates MS/Gates with a fiery passion.
...or someone that loves porn or hookers.
Too bad that you didn't insert the installation DVD and select "Repair".
Most of the "reformats" that people do are unnecessary.
Think about this - do you believe that there was any way that the CP+B camera crew could have received permission to film *inside* the Mac Store?
Since the answer is likely "no", what they did in the short ad was quite reasonable.
You did say that Macs are not so useful (highlighted in red), and only for looks (highlighted in green).This, I assume, means that current Mac users have have paid for pricey computers (highlighted in purple) that are for looks and are not really "functional" and maybe "useless". Then you say about not "judging. To each his own. [sic]"(in bold)
Oh, and btw I think the post about ads earlier about Microsoft being misleading and being offended by it is about how Microsoft is not really comparing "apples to apples". (as per your reply highlighted in blue)
I guess I'm being clear enough?
Didn't work (I'm not stupid, yo.). I had to take out my Hard Drive, backup, then reinstall.
PS. I did try using the Recovery utility. Didn't work either.
Most Mac People are broke and stupid. I guess that is because they are in college
If they were stupid they wouldn't be in college.
No, but it reflects their crappy service policy. My iMac experiences may be subjective, but AppleCare's game rules are not.
The fact is, they don't do on-site repairs on laptops, they don't do on-site repairs on iMacs despite the contract stating that desktop models are covered, and they only repair Mac Pros on-site if you live a maximum of 80 kilometers from the nearest authorized service center. That's seriously weak and unprofessional, and the one good thing about my iMac breaking down is that it familiarized me with their non-existant service before I made the mistake of buying a MBP 17". Being used to what other vendors offer, it simply wasn't on my map that AppleCare was nothing but a bare-bones warranty extension. I mean really, if you look bad next to Dell, where are you at?
These contradicions you harp on about, what are they? That I detest Apple and still buy their products? Yeah, very schizo I'm sure, but it's like this:
A) I'm a sucker for industrial design and I like how Apple hardware looks and feels, externally. None of my Dell machines have that extra eye-candy oomph.
B) OS X is necessary to have around because I need to compatibility test my work on that platform, checking what the colors look like and seeing if the Flash animations play back well, and for the occasional client who wants me to work on Mac for whatever reason. So I figured hey, if I get an MBP for Windows and pay the 25% Apple tax, I'm killing two birds with one stone and I can skip getting a portable Mac AND a new portable PC. This was my plan before I found out about the BootCamp issues and that AppleCare is Apple minus Care.
C) I use an iPhone, which I like almost unreservedly, much unlike OS X on computers. Sure, they're siblings, but so are Liv (yay!) and Mia (yikes!) Tyler.
However, I still have the deepest contempt for the company itself and their practices, and the zealot club isn't a plus. I'm not exactly fond of Microsoft either, and don't get me started on Adobe, but in my line of work I'm stuck with these companies, so what can I do but pay them with one hand and smack them with the other.
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Haha this sort of thing just shows how much of a threat Apple has become to M$. They always amuse me with they ads they come up with.
Haha this sort of thing just shows how much of a threat Apple has become to M$. They always amuse me with they ads they come up with.
apple will never be a viable "threat" to MS as long as they keep their current model of buisness albeit successful
Reasonable from a production standpoint, though misleading to the viewer of this "reality" ad.
It's a possibility. Microsoft can't live in the server space alone. They don't make hardware (which arguably is where apple makes strides along with profit), and sell their OS to large volume manufacturers for pennies on the dollar (Didn't microsoft offer massive discounts to vendors who only sold MS warez? Or atleast the above assumption, ludicriously cheap licensing fees).
MS Owns the workgroup/messaging space, which is a lucrative business in a increasingly flat world. Their mobile platform is plauged with problems and is facing opposition on all fronts. Market share just gives MS more leverage. I'll venture to say that Apple will refuse to cater to the masses to keep a more streamlined product production as well as user experience ,say, in the apple store, but If google owns the search/information space, apple gaining market share in the desktop space, unix in the enterprise space, rim/apple in the mobile space, and no extra income from hardware sales (because they don't have any save for keyboards and mice). It could become an interesting battle.
Obviously you've never went into the history of Apple. In the 1990s Apple was still a small company with ~2-3% market share in the OS market and ironically it was Apple who was still shipping "beige boxes".
But then, I have to say that Windows 7 should be given away for freeafter all the suffering that Vista users experienced, Microsoft owes them. It's the SP3 that Microsoft owes Vista users (such as myself; I've had it after 2 weeks of "familiarizing". The UAC, for example, really annoys me; I turned it off, and went back to Leopard in my hacint0sh; never went back again.)
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