New Microsoft Ad Campaign Targets Mac Prices

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I don't have to drag and drop and have multiple windows open or hold the file over endless amounts of folders waiting for them to open, etc.

Go to the Finder's preferences and dial down the time before "Spring-Loaded" folders activate. Note the info below the slider: "Press Space Bar to open immediately". Try it, it works!
 
At least the ads are nice for entertainment value. Nice use of reverse psychology by MS though; Windows users aren't cool enough to buy a Mac which is somehow supposed to be a shared identity ("not cool") ? Misery loves company I guess.
 
The ad is legitimate. I can see nothing wrong with it.

Let's just say that I need a car. It has to have ABS brakes, driver and passenger airbags, and I only have $10000 to spend. I'm not going to try buying a 2009 Mercedes for that. Why even bother? A Toyota will be fine. The Mercedes might be a better car overall, but if it's more than I can afford, then it isn't worth considering.
 
Wrong. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116493 Vista Ultimate 64-bit, $179.

And you only need Vista Home Premium to equal Leopard. It even includes technologies that Leopard currently does not. For example, the technology to use the GPU in the way OpenCL will has already existed in Windows thanks to nvidia and ATI for over a year now ;) And Windows has been taking full advantage of the GPU for video playback for almost a decade now. Not half-assed HWMC and iDCT support like OS X.

Glowing user review from NewEgg:
"Other Thoughts: Worth the money if you can't afford a Mac"

Info from Microsoft's own user forums on buying OEM version:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/.../thread/5d9d4860-eb4b-45b3-8a79-740b9dd7ce6b/

"OEM versions of Windows XP:

-- cannot upgrade over an existing Windows installation.
-- must be installed "clean" on a freshly reformatted drive or partition.
-- cannot be transferred to a different computer or if motherboard is upgraded.
-- the license cannot be sold or transferred to another user.
-- are not eligible for free Microsoft technical support.
-- any problems whatsoever with the installation CD or Product Key.
is not eligible for Microsoft support....you have to deal with the "seller".
-- cost less than "retail versions" due to the above limitations/risks.

Best Advice: Purchase a "Retail Version" of Windows XP! "
 
1. The first sentence, isnt that the reason why Linux and Apple have trouble with market penetration. You're not helping it you're just repeating the cycle.

2. Isnt this a main point for linux, customiziability. If you just eat what cannocal gives you arent you just the same as Windows and Mac OSX Users?

3. Umm dude, what? RedHat? Where have you been. Try Fedora or RHEL, theyre also thinking of bringing back inbox software again.

4. It encourages piracy = illegal. Breaks Millenium Copyright Act = Illegal. Breaks Apple's EULA = Discouraged.

I dont hate Linux, its great for critical work but Im so sick of the Ubuntu Hype.

1. I'm not saying I'm not trying it though. I'm just more familiar to Ubuntu. I know how to set up a computer with Ubuntu. (No experience with the others...)

2. Yes, customizing is good, but if you have to do the whole thing it's bad. What I, and many other users, need is just a tweak here and there.

3. If I'm correct, Red Hat Linux is discontinued for Red Hat Enterprise....

4. There's something called EFI-X... or you can go v8, emulate efi, and use "vanilla" discs. And slap an Apple sticker on and you can argue that you're following the EULA... (notice it says "Apple-labeled computer".)

The ad is legitimate. I can see nothing wrong with it.

Let's just say that I need a car. It has to have ABS brakes, driver and passenger airbags, and I only have $10000 to spend. I'm not going to try buying a 2009 Mercedes for that. Why even bother? A Toyota will be fine. The Mercedes might be a better car overall, but if it's more than I can afford, then it isn't worth considering.

First, there has been more than enough car analogies in the last 2122 posts. We've had it.

Second, the ad is sometimes misleading.. (read the first few pages of this thread.)
 
...For example, the technology to use the GPU in the way OpenCL will has already existed in Windows thanks to nvidia and ATI for over a year now ;) And Windows has been taking full advantage of the GPU for video playback for almost a decade now. Not half-assed HWMC and iDCT support like OS X.

nVidia and ATI each have their own code for utilizing their GPUs, which dooms it from reaching wide acceptance. Apple is providing a unified, proper API that will actually bring GPU co-processing into mainstream apps, and not just a video player.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL

I seem to recall the Mac using 24bit overlays for cursors before Windows. That's utilizing GPU hardware for you!
 
The ad is legitimate. I can see nothing wrong with it.

Let's just say that I need a car. It has to have ABS brakes, driver and passenger airbags, and I only have $10000 to spend. I'm not going to try buying a 2009 Mercedes for that. Why even bother? A Toyota will be fine. The Mercedes might be a better car overall, but if it's more than I can afford, then it isn't worth considering.

However, for the same price, I'd rather purchase a used 2005 Mercedes than a 2009 Toyota for the safety factor, supreme handling, spacious interior, and overall superior performance. When it comes to purchasing a PC, one actually will wind up spending an extra premium anyway in terms of lost productivity due to downtime, virus vigilance, tech support, etc. This had been an expensive venture in the past, and an expenditure I'd rather not afford anymore.
 
1. I'm not saying I'm not trying it though. I'm just more familiar to Ubuntu. I know how to set up a computer with Ubuntu. (No experience with the others...)

2. Yes, customizing is good, but if you have to do the whole thing it's bad. What I, and many other users, need is just a tweak here and there.

3. If I'm correct, Red Hat Linux is discontinued for Red Hat Enterprise....

4. There's something called EFI-X... or you can go v8, emulate efi, and use "vanilla" discs. And slap an Apple sticker on and you can argue that you're following the EULA... (notice it says "Apple-labeled computer".)

Thats the thing, you dont have to do the whole thing. The only thing ubuntu has is that theyve exposed the Gnome Control Panel, Added envy which is still worse than metadata packages and changed from the default tango interface. Portege builds the things for you even video card drivers.

Red Hat Distros is a generalised term used for distros based on RPMs.

In the EULA its used as a verb, not a description. Apple must directly put the sticker on that PC to be valid. Also phystar originally did that and phailed. EFi Hacking/Workarounds is still against the Millenium Copyright Act.
 
Thats the thing, you dont have to do the whole thing. The only thing ubuntu has is that theyve exposed the Gnome Control Panel, Added envy which is still worse than metadata packages and changed from the default tango interface.

Problem being that I lack any in-depth knowledge of anything other than ubuntu... But imho the Gnome Control Panel is quite good...

Red Hat Distros is a generalised term used for distros based on RPMs.

Noob here. mind clarifying?

In the EULA its used as a verb, not a description. Apple must directly put the sticker on that PC to be valid. Also phystar originally did that and phailed. EFi Hacking is still against the Millenium Copyright Act.

It's called being "ambiguous"... They can take on different meanings. That's the point of having courts... to decide which interpretation of the law to abide to...

By the way according to EFI-X the EFI is made totally independent of Apple code... and if I'm correct the v8 code came from "clean room" reverse engineering. -- theoretically legal.
 
Problem being that I lack any in-depth knowledge of anything other than ubuntu... But imho the Gnome Control Panel is quite good...



Noob here. mind clarifying?



It's called being "ambiguous"... They can take on different meanings. That's the point of having courts... to decide which interpretation of the law to abide to...

It pales compared to Yast, Ever tried setting up a network thorugh the Gnome Panel

This was my point before, A Red Hat Distro is a general term used for a system that uses Red Hat's Package System RPM. Although they make their own Linux Distros other distros are included under this term.

"2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use
or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one
computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time."

See that there are hyphons? Its a verb.
Reverse engineering is still hacking.
 
Because Wii is a thinking-man's console and XB360/PS3 are gamers (and less educated people's generally) consoles. Mac is a thinking person's computer and PC is a gamers rig or net appliance. Plus, The Wii is white and Apple did have a white fixation for a quite a while until just recently.

Owww man that made me laugh, please tell me your not being serious. Wii has the simplest games in the world on it, most aimed at kids. Do you know what the Wii is???? Most likely console to be bought by a working professional is the PS3 as it is also a entertainment centre, Most sought after console by kids is the Wii. They are all gaming consoles, Wii with the least potential to do anything else....it just games.
 
Owww man that made me laugh, please tell me your not being serious. Wii has the simplest games in the world on it, most aimed at kids. Do you know what the Wii is???? Most likely console to be bought by a working professional is the PS3 as it is also a entertainment centre, Most sought after console by kids is the Wii. They are all gaming consoles, Wii with the least potential to do anything else....it just games.

My Thoughts Exactly, Why should I skimp out on a good story telling game just so I can have wavey wavey pointy pointy. Yes I did own a Wii. Now I have a PS3, JapanStudio Games will blow your mind.
 
However, for the same price, I'd rather purchase a used 2005 Mercedes than a 2009 Toyota for the safety factor, supreme handling, spacious interior, and overall superior performance. When it comes to purchasing a PC, one actually will wind up spending an extra premium anyway in terms of lost productivity due to downtime, virus vigilance, tech support, etc. This had been an expensive venture in the past, and an expenditure I'd rather not afford anymore.

You buying that 2005 Merc stolen for $10K??? Pass me the details i want in....
 
85 pages this is hilarious! all the Apple consumers / fanboys are here trying to justify paying the Apple tax just to run OS X on the very same hardware that is inside every single Windows based PC look, you Apple fan boys can spin this all you want at the end of the day Apple has imbedded a huge tax on every box they sell giving you the rights to run OS X on the very same hardware a Windows user probably paid half the price for.

It was inevitable that this argument would gain more steam once Apple changed over to using the same Intel processors used in a Windows box yet they continue to charge the Apple tax for using OS X

Its time for Apple to lower or drop the OS X tax plain and simple you really cant spin this any other way! there are 85 pages of post in this thread and this is the bottom line, how much are you willing to spend in order to run OS X ?
 
all the Apple consumers / fanboys are here trying to justify paying the Apple tax just to run OS X on the very same hardware that is inside every single Windows based PC look blah blah

Did you really think that this post of yours was so clever that you had to put it up again? :eek:
 
OK - here's the bottom line.

The cheaper PC laptop is ALWAYS financially going to be a better prospect for you than the more expensive Mac laptop equivalent. Period!

Unless, of course, you're of the opinion that the more expensive Mac offers better prospects for you than the cheaper PC laptop.

Either way, I'm reading this thread and can't believe the misplaced passion that's being displayed here. This is Mac AND PC fanboy-ism if the highest standard! I can't be bothered to get into the bickering that's going on here but for God's sake - GROW UP, PEOPLE!

Either way, Macs are better...
:D
 
Argh! Self pity?

Yes, because your story of woe keeps changing.

For example:

Seriously, the only one I pity a little is my girlfriend since she's the one who uses the machine these days.

Oh, so the iMac is running again?

Since its running maybe you can ask your Girlfriend to FINALLY get those all-so-important NDA-protected files off the computer.

But wait...did she also sign that NDA? Afterall, you said that she's been using it for months after the project - - why didn't you bother to scrub the machine before you gave it to her?


The only reason why I had to go over the story again is that some dork accused me of making it up.

FWIW, I don't believe that you made it up: I just see many elements of the story that simply don't make any sense to blame on the original product supplier. At some point, you have to start to take responsibility for your actions, instead of being the perennial victim that we're supposed to feel sorry for.

I'm sorry that you had original teething problems with Leopard. Of course, all early adopters always do ... technology and vendor independent ... and anyone who has worked for any reasonable period of time with technology knows that and thus, doesn't put mission critical work on the untested and unproven: this is basic business risk management.

Similarly, we also know that people aren't happy when change is forced upon them, which is what your client did to you. You were handed lemons but chose to not make lemon-aid...instead, you resented receiving lemons because your favored flavor of fruit happens to be the laraha.


(PS - Pulling out the HDD was obviously my first thought, but the Dell dude who was here a while ago, and incidentally used to do Apple repairs back in the beige days", said that a lot of people who do that on alu iMacs damage the screen, so... no thanks)

Yet if the 'Dell guy' who was here just mentioned this, how is it that you somehow knew this information a half year earlier?

Bottom line is that since you said that your girlfriend is using it, that really suggests that the machine is running. Thus, you should stop surfing macrumors this instant and go take 10 minutes to get your NDA data off that iMac so that you can finally get whatever is supposedly wrong with it fixed.

So stop whining and go take care of it.

-hh
 
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