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Why do SIM cards still exist? Whats the purpose of these pieces?
Why not abandon these useless technology and go software side. So you could have several numbers saved on your phone (eg. one for country1 one for country2) or a buisness and a private phone number. That would bee cool.

No it wouldn't. The carriers would be the one who would have to program the soft-sim into your phone (they'd insist upon it), leaving you to wait 6-10 business days ("processing time") for the switch to take effect, whereas with a SIM card, you're up and running within minutes.
 
Seriously? All the fighting and bitching for one ****ing notch? Really?

It's not the notch that's important, it's what it means for product design.

Apple uses a tray to hold the SIM, while the other manufacturers don't want to be forced down that route - it's another cost that they'd have to factor in to their products, the majority of which are very basic phones that cost very little to make and sell at the moment.

You could say that all this fuss over saving a few mm inside a device is silly, but that's what Apple wants to do.
 
And with the ETSI yet to publish any other details on the approved design beyond overall measurements, it is not yet clear which design won out.The ETSI specifically refused to comment on which group's design was chosen, noting only that a collective decision by the industry yielded the final standard.

According to MacWorld, the winning design was confirmed as the Apple one by someone who was there.

MacWorld said:
The proposer of the winning specification was identified by card maker Giesecke & Devrient, which had a representative on the committee.
http://www.macworld.com/article/1167052/apple_wins_battle_over_nanosim_standard.html
 
I don't understand - in the picture it looks about 1mm shorter than the micro-sim, nowhere near 40% smaller. In fact the difference looks insignificant, even in smartphone size terms.

From the sounds of it, if the dimensions are otherwise them same (ie Nokia's isn't bigger) then it would make sense to have Nokia's design - why not have a wee hole to allow pushy-clicky draw-free use for those manufacturers who want it? Wouldn't stop Apple using a draw and sexy liquid metal drawer poking stick if they want to.
 
It's not the notch that's important, it's what it means for product design.

Apple uses a tray to hold the SIM, while the other manufacturers don't want to be forced down that route - it's another cost that they'd have to factor in to their products, the majority of which are very basic phones that cost very little to make and sell at the moment.

You could say that all this fuss over saving a few mm inside a device is silly, but that's what Apple wants to do.

Yeah, but it makes sense what Apple's trying to do, there's absolutely no need for excess plastic at all.
 
Yeah, but it makes sense what Apple's trying to do, there's absolutely no need for excess plastic at all.

It's too late now.

It's already been decided.

The two problems that manufacturers had with Apple's design have been solved:

-backwards compatibility
-no tray required

You can use the new design in a micro or mini SIM device.

You don't need to use a SIM tray.
 
Why do SIM cards still exist? Whats the purpose of these pieces?
Why not abandon these useless technology and go software side. So you could have several numbers saved on your phone (eg. one for country1 one for country2) or a buisness and a private phone number. That would bee cool.
Death to sim-cards!
 
Only carriers earn with a new SIM Standard.

For example, in Brazil, probably only Apple devices use non-standard SIM cards, so if I want a data plan for an iPhone or iPad, I have to buy a specific plan for these devices, usually more expensive than standard data plans.
 
Try not to inhale when installing it.

These new SIM cards might be like an insurance police. If suddenly your life goes wrong — inhale it and sue Apple to get thing back on track for next 100 years of your life.

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Only carriers earn with a new SIM Standard.

For example, in Brazil, probably only Apple devices use non-standard SIM cards, so if I want a data plan for an iPhone or iPad, I have to buy a specific plan for these devices, usually more expensive than standard data plans.

You may cut your "Standard" SIM card to perfectly fit an iPhone.
 
It's too late now.

It's already been decided.

The two problems that manufacturers had with Apple's design have been solved:

-backwards compatibility
-no tray required

You can use the new design in a micro or mini SIM device.

You don't need to use a SIM tray.

... That wasn't my point at all -_-
 
Why do SIM cards still exist? Whats the purpose of these pieces?
Why not abandon these useless technology and go software side. So you could have several numbers saved on your phone (eg. one for country1 one for country2) or a buisness and a private phone number. That would bee cool.

The best point on this topic. But carriers wouldn't like it.
 
Leave it to Apple to create a truly magical and revolutionary SIM card.

But will it blend? That is the question.
 
I don't understand why these companies were opposed to Apple's design. I mean, they ape Apple's work at every turn anyway. Isn't this more or less Apple giving them the green-light to use one of their designs for once? And yet they fight against it. Maybe there's more to this than I understand, but it strikes me as a strange response.
 
Did it really need to be smaller? I've never heard anyone say "dammit, this SIM card is just so big and bulky, I don't know if I can handle it." This reminds me of the race to make smaller and smaller memory cards (like microSD)--I've never once thought to myself, "these SD cards are so astronomically large, I wish they were around 6-7 times smaller."

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How small?

Why is it when they are talking about a new card (4FF) that is 40% smaller than the smallest current SIM card, they show a picture of it with a Mini SIM cutout rather than the Micro SIM (3FF). The Mini SIM is 100% larger than a Micro SIM.
 
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