if the short side of the sim is just a tad shorter than the phone is thick, then the sim could be installed at 90 degrees to its current installation. this would free up a huge amount of space for the logic board or battery.
I guess in Europe its a whole different ball game than in the states.
Of course, but it is myopic carrier managers who insist on sims.
And overall usability. I'm not sure how much thinner a phone can get before you can't really hold it. But I'm all for freeing up that space for some more bells and whistles. Or just a bigger battery.
What's the point of a SIM card if you're locked into using that one SIM card by your carrier anyway?
It doesn't, but it's a great technology for people who travel. They can get pre-paid sims and just pop in in their phone.
Indeed, I travel a lot and I always buy a local SIM, however it would be much easier to go to a web page and buy some credits/minutes for a given carrier.
I don't think this is impossiblefor oay's techno
ogy and if I recall correctly some rumors about Apple thinking to get rid of the SIM have already appeared before.
I don't understand why these companies were opposed to Apple's design. I mean, they ape Apple's work at every turn anyway. Isn't this more or less Apple giving them the green-light to use one of their designs for once? And yet they fight against it. Maybe there's more to this than I understand, but it strikes me as a strange response.
But, if we're not going to get that, because it would make the carriers very sad
So can a Micro-SIM be cut down to a Nano-SIM, or is my iPhone rotation plan* screwed?(
Well an iPod touch is 7.3mm thick and a 4S is 9.2mm so I think they could still get substantially thinner and be usable. Plus add on a case etc.
Update: IDG News Service reports that Apple's design was indeed the winning standard.
Article Link: New Nano-SIM Standard Approved, 40% Smaller Than Micro-SIM
According to MacWorld, the winning design was confirmed as the Apple one by someone who was there.
http://www.macworld.com/article/1167052/apple_wins_battle_over_nanosim_standard.html
Assumptions by many sites.Ars Technica are also reporting that it is the Apple design that was chosen.
New SIM card format for slimmer, smaller phones
ETSI Headquarters, Sophia Antipolis, France 1 June 2012
ETSI has standardized a new form factor (4FF) for the SIM card, 40% smaller than the current smallest design.
At its 55th meeting held on 31 May and 1 June 2012 in Osaka, Japan, ETSI's Smart Card Platform Technical Committee agreed a new form factor for the UICC, popularly known as the SIM card.
Today's SIM card designs take up a significant amount of space inside a mobile device. This space is more and more valuable in today's handsets which deliver an ever increasing number of features.
The fourth form factor (4FF) card will be 40% smaller than the current smallest SIM card design, at 12.3mm wide by 8.8mm high, and 0.67mm thick. It can be packaged and distributed in a way that is backwards compatible with existing SIM card designs. The new design will offer the same functionality as all current SIM cards.
The SIM is the most successful smart card application ever. A SIM card is used to securely associate a mobile device with a customer account, preventing fraud and ensuring that calls are correctly routed to customers. It is an essential security feature of mobile networks, and is integrated into every GSM, UMTS and LTE device. Over 25 billion SIM card and derivatives have been produced so far, and the industry continues to issue over 4.5 billion SIM cards each year.
The new form factor was adopted by industry with the involvement of major mobile network operators, smart card suppliers and mobile device manufacturers. The new design will be published in due course in ETSI's TS 102 221 specification, freely available like all ETSI standards from the ETSI website.
END
Evy phone is locked to a carrier? Since when?
We're talking about iPhones. And most iPhones are indeed locked, since getting them unlocked would cost far too much for most people. So if 90% of iPhone are locked, then only 10% actually need a SIM card, since the whole point of a SIM card is that it's removable. But if you're locked to using that one SIM anyway, then what's the point?
What I'm saying is that all this fuss about SIM card sizes is kind of pointless, given that only a minority of people actually need the advantages of a SIM card (that it's removable).
I'm sure they could figure out a system where the SIM card is "soft", as in virtual, just like a Skype account. You log in and out without having to fiddle with the tiny annoying SIM cards and SIM eject tools.
The most annoying is that you generally have to swap SIM cards at airports, and you find that all your stuff is somewhere in your baggage and you drop everything, lost the SIM eject tool, etc It's not the smartest way of changing carriers, even for the few who are lucky enough to afford an unlocked phone.