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if both proposals were the exact same internal dimensions and the only difference was the slot, it seems like it'd be just as easy to include the slot for manufacturers that want to use push-push mechanisms while still maintaining compatibility for those that don't.
 
So can a Micro-SIM be cut down to a Nano-SIM, or is my iPhone rotation plan* screwed?

*Every year I get the new iPhone while my wife gets the one I've been using since last year. We have two contracts, last year mine was up. Assuming that this year's iPhone uses the nano-SIM, they won't give me a nano-SIM for a phone that my wife should be using...:(
 
Well, keep in mind that with current trends in air travel, you might have to pay $50 extra for carrying too much luggage when using a FF3 SIM.

And my non-sarcastic tip would be: get one of these little SC card boxes and shuff them all in there. That usually has a wrap-lock and fits perfectly in your wallet with your change.

And then be prepared to explain to a security checkpoint screener that these are not remote ignition devices for terrorism:)
 
What are the chances of this being used in the new iPhone? How long did it take for networks to start suppprting the micro-sim? I think it was fairly quickly.
 
I was just rewatching the Jobs-Gates D5 appearance which is a laundry list of Gates raising technological transitions that Jobs in fact installed into hardware and software over the next 5 years.

One of the issues raised was standards. Once standards are arrived at for leading technologies it facilitates convergence devices. Examples include the mouse, GUI interface, Ethernet, USB, video file formats, html, java, and many, many others.

So when someone announces that they are adopting micro-sim, thunderbolt, USB3, 802.11n, bluetooth 4, or LTE, this facilitates a wide range of device interoperability and lowers the barriers to market growth and the path to the next standard.

Micro-sim facilitates devices that have more net volume for other things. SIM itself is a technology to lock a user to a network since it is technologically possible to have simless devices.

But once you have surrendered to the business decision of your network to compel a sim, you also get access to someone's multi billion dolllar investment each and every year for capacity, new standards and protocols which deliver capacity and speed, and the knowledge it will continue throughout the 2 year term you just committed to and beyond.

Keep standards coming!

Rocketman

Rewatch D5 on podcast. It is an interesting look back in a time machine where you already know the final answer. You will have the strange experience of thinking, "I have that, and that, and that too", dozens of times.
 
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if both proposals were the exact same internal dimensions and the only difference was the slot, it seems like it'd be just as easy to include the slot for manufacturers that want to use push-push mechanisms while still maintaining compatibility for those that don't.

completely defeats the purpose of collaborating on the issue in the first place. if you can't switch a SIM between phones, or be able to produce one kind of card that fits in all phones, then there might as well just be phone/carrier/manufacturer specific SIM designs...
 
Does the design have a mandatory tray? This is another thing that is not disclosed yet

If I remember right, the notch that the others wanted would allow the "push in and click" without tray feature. So I would assume this one requires a tray for phones like the iPhone. For removable battery phones I would guess this goes under battery or something like today.

Also, I assume Apple wants a tray as it looks cleaner than having an open slot on the side and being able to see the SIM card.
 
I go frequently to France and Italy so I have 3 SIM's, this two and the Spanish one.

So yes, the smaller the SIM the easier is losing it

Why is it not possible to have more than one number on one sim card?
 
Cool. Now lets all use the same charger that you all agreed to be the standard.
 
Seriously tho...if a smaller sim card will enable bigger longer lasting batteries, i am all for it. Otherwise, how thin do you really want a phone to get? At a certain point it becomes too thin dont ya think? I mean, you want SOME heft to a phone right?

It isn't so much about thinness as it is about space saved (e.g. reallocated). Judging from the photo, it's pretty significant. More board space = more or better chips in general.
 
In which manner a SIM locks a user to a network? It is even easier to lock down a device to a network with a soft solution

I don't think either tech innately locks users more or less to a network. The minuscule size savings from removing sims from the equation don't justify the possibility of ending up with a less free ecosystem.

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If I don't know who won how am I supposed to know how to feel about it.
 
I go frequently to France and Italy so I have 3 SIM's, this two and the Spanish one.

So yes, the smaller the SIM the easier is losing it

May I suggest something like this.

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How come in 2012 technolgy still needs a SIM to drive a telephone?

It doesn't, but it's a great technology for people who travel. They can get pre-paid sims and just pop in in their phone. Airports often sell sim cards out of a vending machine. No need to contact your phone company or a new one at the destination.

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My mind immediately went to the Seinfeld episode where Kramer pretends to get a telepathic call from newman.

I love that show, I wish they still played the re-runs.
 
Why don't we just get phones implanted in our brains? Just think of you want to call and it does.

Good idea. And then we will be seeing a lot of people walking into fountains or poles with no visible reason.
 
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