Let me see if I can help with your interpretation of this post (since the /s was a little too subtle) ...
<sarcasm>
With NO NFC Chip, Apple is D O O M E D. !!!
They will sell like 75 units total.
/s
</sarcasm>
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
New Photos Indicate Previously-Thought NFC Chip in iPhone 5 is Earpiece Speaker
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Let me see if I can help with your interpretation of this post (since the /s was a little too subtle) ...
<sarcasm>
</sarcasm>
Looks like no NFC in the iPhone 5. I think this is a big mistake. This is really starting to take off here in the UK. All the other major mobile phone players have it already or it's coming this year. The banks and mobile phone networks are starting to push it at last. Even the retailers have started putting the payment terminals in more shops. The iPhone is going to look very outdated without it if mobile payments takes off in a big way.
Because pulling out ur wallet at the 6 places that use NFC would be WAY too inconvenient.
Exactly. I use it when abroad, it's been around for a long time in many other first world nations. It's secure (don't buy into the rhetoric that it is not), and very convenient. In fact, I'd rather have my info stored digitally, securely in my device than my wallet. If your iPhone/device is misplaced/stolen, you still need to enter a pin and can remote wipe the device.
It's been "rumored" that talks stalled between M.C. and Visa due to Apple's demands of a percentage of sales from NFC use.
----------
Perhaps because Apple is placing demands on credit companies that may be squelching technological advancements which benefit the consumer, while other first world nations have been implementing NFC systems for years? No, couldn't be the case.
Too true. Even if security weren't a concern, these things just take time. Bluetooth was available at least as far back as 2001, and took years to gain any significant traction. Now its 2nd nature.
Yea man, its like a meme now. I know if I was gonna leak something, I'd grow 'em out just for these kind of lol's.
Thats Right! Steve would never have allowed this!!
Google Wallet uses NFC and is available on some devices, but will be available on more this year. It works best on the Galaxy Nexus.
I've been using it regularly at McDonalds, CVS Pharmacy, and a few other places. Best is to get a pre-paid fixed limit credit card and enter it in to Google Wallet to keep your risk low.
Another good use it to use it transfer information from one phone to another. Point to point.
I couldnt agree more. The bar incident from the 4 is way different than now. This is a new iphone 5 we are talkin about something apple said steve put a lot of time in to. The manufacturers i dont believe would just go around leaking this whole damn phone like this. If next wed. im wrong then apple needs to come down hard on the manufacturers for this. But like i said apple knows these leaks are out and are probably like "we are about to blow everyones mind once again" i cant wait till next wed with that said! Good day
Is NFC one of those 'features' that you will only use once to prove your device is capable of it, and never use it again? And then talk endlessly about how your phone has a feature some other phone doesn't have? And that makes it better? Please.
I've grown up beyond that.
Apple never said Jobs worked on this device: that's just a rumour. Also, Apple is a multi billion dollar company. They simply CANNOT hold these things secret; too many people are involved.
Not entirely true. No, wait, sorry that's not fair... a lot of what looks like NFC isn't or the systems are still in the trial stage. Take the Oyster card system that runs London's transport network. It works very much like an NFC solution but is actually an RFID-based proprietary system and NFC can't be used as the current standard is simply to slow. TfL had planned on converting the whole network in time for the Olympics but ran into technical problems and is now targeting the end of 2013.
Ultimately buying a handset using current NFC technologies seems to be a gamble as to whether or not that particular tech will still be in use in a year or two. Waiting for the dust to settle won't hurt anyone and may actually benefit users in the long run.
Apple has always been cutting-edge about GUIs, ease-of-use and look of the product.
Apple is rarely cutting-edge about anything else. Apple generally waits to see something become successful before re-implementing it, and making it easier for the masses to use.
There are exceptions, like FireWire, Thunderbolt or Retina screens, but generally Apple finds something that should work and has a market, but isn't working in it's current form - like music players and creates the iPod, phones and creates the iPhone, or netbooks and creates the iPad.
And Apple generally doesn't include the latest and greatest in it's products unless it helps improve the user experience somehow without detracting from the rest of the experience (like shorter battery life). The iPhone didn't have a camera in version 1. The iPad still doesn't have a USB port, not because Apple couldn't do it, but they wanted to push the Cloud, and an experience where wireless is the way to go. This is SO MUCH NICER than having cords upon cords sticking out of an iPad and having to leave it on your desk. It's meant as a portable device, thus Apple enforces the better user experience - wireless.
I bet Apple is right now looking at how to do NFC right, and figuring out the simplest way.
Last edited:
Duh.
I dont understand why most of you are getting upset about NFC. Passbook was created to substitute the fact that NFC would not be in the next iPhone.
Knew this months ago with iOS 6.
I dont understand why most of you are getting upset about NFC. Passbook was created to substitute the fact that NFC would not be in the next iPhone.
Knew this months ago with iOS 6.
Good post, interesting info about the rail system.
You know, Apple's SOP in regards to new hardware/standards seems to be wait-and-see unless it's something that they've seen a specific leverage point in the market.
...and right after I post, someone else says the same thing!
Not disagreeing with you but nobody seems to notice that the iPhone 4S is one of only 3 phones a year later that have Bluetooth 4.0. Which is pretty significant for people who use their phones as workout companions to Bluetooth Smart devices.
And probably won't work with any other brand except apple,like having a ferrari with a cutter at 40m/h ...
Not to mention the restrictions of what i can share.
@Radio i agree as well, it is overrated untill apple starts using it of course then its awesome, innovative, revolutionary, out of this world.
Not to mention the fact that you need to root an Android device to really use Google Wallet.
Heh. I was thinking the same thing. In fact I haven't seen NFC used by anybody in the wild. Here in the US or in any of the places I visited while in Europe last month.
Where I live, despite the popularity of android phones, NFC is almost completely useless. Most of people don't even know what it is. In fact, carriers are using their own money systems that is compatible with any phone. Basically just like sending airtime.
As with LTE, the 3g networks are only being introduced. No hope for LTE anytime soon. Sometimes, in fact most of the times, it rocks to live in a third-world country. I don't have to stress for apple to releases these stuff