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New Photos Indicate Previously-Thought NFC Chip in iPhone 5 is Earpiece Speaker
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I'm sure you're right but how many sales will they lose in the meantime while they figure it out. The S3 has NFC, the new Nokia's announced yesterday have NFC (and a cool wireless charging facility), I bet the Motorola, Sony, LG, etc smartphones all have or will have soon NFC. It's ok to be the last one in as long as it doesn't affect sales.
Nobody was doing smartphones right before the iPhone so they had time to get it right. Nobody was selling tablets before the iPad so again they had a jump on the competition and time to add things. Same with the iPod.
However the smartphone marketplace is a very different place now. The competition is catching up fast and in many ways are making better phones. Ok they don't have iTunes or iOS but Apple are still losing sales to these guys. Even with all the law suits it's hard to see how Apple isn't going to lose more sales if they keep holding back on new features like NFC.
WTF.. No NFC? This is absolutely a big loss for modern technology. You can definitely see it seems Apple is trying to push new innovations back. This is absolutely one big dissapointment.
Is that what you got from what I said? I just said I haven't seen it in use. Way to look too much into a sentence bro.
One thing that always felt peculiar to me, is why would NFC be on the FRONT side of the phone? Every implementation I've seen of NFC has it on the BACK side of the phone. I still hope Apple has NFC in the new iPhone and that it just hasn't been shown off yet. Why else would there had been NFC code in the leaked iOS 6 for the new iPhone and it seems like the introduction of Passbook is way too convenient.
Also, while NFC hasn't really caught on here in the states, I've seen it used a lot in Japan. I've seen terminals here in the states that can accept NFC payment at my local McDonalds, Whataburger, DQ Grill & Chill, Office Depot, and some other places. I think Apple bringing NFC support to the iPhone would definitely cause a push for vendors to start supporting NFC. Pretty much anywhere they can accept contactless-payment (Visa payWave, MasterCard PayPass, AMEX ExpressPay, Discover Zip, etc.) can accept NFC from my understanding. Even computers have NFC built-in in Japan. Some of the uses of NFC in Japan:
-Payment via phone at stores and vending machines
-Digital receipts
-Digital coupons
-Cell phone as a key for your house/apartment door
-Transit pass (train/subway/monorail/bus/etc.)
-Online shopping
-Beaming contact information from one phone to another (no longer need to tell them your phone number, how to spell your name, how to spell your email etc. just put your phones near each together and they have it all at the tap of a button)
In Japan, their major implementation of NFC is called FeliCa.
Also, the issue with trying to use Bluetooth 4.0 LE to replace NFC is that there is already a ton of stuff that supports NFC. While it may not be too common in the states, the places that do already have it in the states probably just got it recently and don't want to shell out the money to replace it for a different standard. Also, in many places such as Japan and parts of Europe and Asia, NFC is already very widely used and changing to a different standard would be chaos in those situations. I think even if they did try to use Bluetooth 4.0 LE as the standard to use, they need to build in NFC for legacy support.
Also, while NFC hasn't really caught on here in the states, I've seen it used a lot in Japan. I've seen terminals here in the states that can accept NFC payment at my local McDonalds, Whataburger, DQ Grill & Chill, Office Depot, and some other places. I think Apple bringing NFC support to the iPhone would definitely cause a push for vendors to start supporting NFC. Pretty much anywhere they can accept contactless-payment (Visa payWave, MasterCard PayPass, AMEX ExpressPay, Discover Zip, etc.) can accept NFC from my understanding. Even computers have NFC built-in in Japan. Some of the uses of NFC in Japan:
-Payment via phone at stores and vending machines
-Digital receipts
-Digital coupons
-Cell phone as a key for your house/apartment door
-Transit pass (train/subway/monorail/bus/etc.)
-Online shopping
-Beaming contact information from one phone to another (no longer need to tell them your phone number, how to spell your name, how to spell your email etc. just put your phones near each together and they have it all at the tap of a button)
In Japan, their major implementation of NFC is called FeliCa.
Also, the issue with trying to use Bluetooth 4.0 LE to replace NFC is that there is already a ton of stuff that supports NFC. While it may not be too common in the states, the places that do already have it in the states probably just got it recently and don't want to shell out the money to replace it for a different standard. Also, in many places such as Japan and parts of Europe and Asia, NFC is already very widely used and changing to a different standard would be chaos in those situations. I think even if they did try to use Bluetooth 4.0 LE as the standard to use, they need to build in NFC for legacy support.
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Bluetooth is a standard, why would you even begin to believe that's the case? Bluetooth 4.0 is actually available to the apps itself in the 4S and iPad.
Well, no matter what you think, the biggest reason you don't see cutting edge stuff, or even expected features, from Apple is because they want to delay something to the next product revision, giving you a reason to upgrade.
Generally, one should wait for the 3rd generation of an Apple product before you get what you should have gotten in the first place.
Yes. Much like it's way too inconvenient to pull out my camera when i want to take a photo, or my walkman when I want to listen to some music, or my satnav when I need navigation or... are you getting the idea about how this device has revolutionised so much of what we've had to carry around with us in the past?
Need I go on? Except to say, 6 places? Where you live maybe in Dickstick USA, but rather more in the rest of the world.
I love the justification on this forum... NFC isn't a super huge deal alone, of course not, but it does go to demonstrate the lack of mobile evolution that Apple has decided to follow.
Sooner or later Apple is going to face a shift in ownership as their phones continue to fall behind the options provided by others.
Consumers are generally clueless when it comes to the latest and greatest, but they do follow trends, it's important they keep up with their neighbors, it's important they appear to be knowledgeable.
If a few jump ship for extended features, others will follow, because thats what we do.
But this forum lol...
If it had NFC "THIS IS SO GREAT!!! I CANT WAIT TO BUY MY COFFEE WITH MY IPHONE!!!"
If it doesnt have NFC "Pfft, NFC what? Who cares? Nobody uses it anyways, passing fad *rolleyes* *flip wrists*"
It's like if the iPhone 6 causes cancer people here will say "Pfft, living an average life span is so totally stereotypical, passing fad, nothing more."
Come on Apple, INNOVATE!!!
Sooner or later Apple is going to face a shift in ownership as their phones continue to fall behind the options provided by others.
Consumers are generally clueless when it comes to the latest and greatest, but they do follow trends, it's important they keep up with their neighbors, it's important they appear to be knowledgeable.
If a few jump ship for extended features, others will follow, because thats what we do.
But this forum lol...
If it had NFC "THIS IS SO GREAT!!! I CANT WAIT TO BUY MY COFFEE WITH MY IPHONE!!!"
If it doesnt have NFC "Pfft, NFC what? Who cares? Nobody uses it anyways, passing fad *rolleyes* *flip wrists*"
It's like if the iPhone 6 causes cancer people here will say "Pfft, living an average life span is so totally stereotypical, passing fad, nothing more."
Come on Apple, INNOVATE!!!
Man, you guys and all this "the leaked iphone parts and pics are all just decoys" thing is just rediculous. PLEASE stop living in a dream world. It just sounds so stupid. There is no secret, unknown device out there that's going to blow our minds next week. And I can't believe that there are people out there that think there is. And yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, and apple hasn't verified anything, so no one really knows 100%. But geeze, have you just recently started following iPhone rumors or something? I hate to burst your bubble, but you are going to be in for a HUGE let down come next Wed. If I were you I would start to accept reality and this way maybe you can enjoy the announcement, and then eventually the actual phone. But you wont. Even as they are showing it on stage you are still going to be thinking that any minute the real phone is be revealed. Its just crazy! The phone you've been seeing, is the phone we are getting. Period. I'd be willing to wager anything you'd like.
NFC is like those who brag about quad core without being able to demonstrate why it's necessary. I remember when the first iMac came out. In an interview Jony Ive said companies are obsessed with specs because it's easier to communicate. How many people who aren't tech savy see "quad core" and assume it has to be better than "dual core", so if a device doesn't list quad core in the specs it must be inferior.
This meme is a myth. If you bothered to actually read this thread or any others about NFC, there is both vocal support and dismissal of NFC by, you know, those that care about the technology, rather than the childish repetition of a tired and overused cliche which has no basis in reality let alone anything useful to add to the thread.
Run along.
Bluetooth and not NFC?
Here is a link that talks about Bluetooth and how it might me used for shopping and paying. Author feels that Apple will use Bluetooth rather than NFC./
http://www.cultofmac.com/167758/why-apples-iwallet-wont-have-anything-to-do-with-nfc/
iOS's Bluetooth capabilities have been limited in the past, but they're opening up the entire stack to developers in iOS 6 with Core Bluetooth. Combined with the advanced Bluetooth chip that's likely to be in the new iPhone (supporting Bluetooth 4.0 low energy), the iPhone will actually have the best and most compatible Bluetooth implementation available by far.
Right. Since micro USB is a really great connector that does everything and is super convenient and never breaks? And theres no Android phones that use proprietary connectors?
Here is a link that talks about Bluetooth and how it might me used for shopping and paying. Author feels that Apple will use Bluetooth rather than NFC./
http://www.cultofmac.com/167758/why-apples-iwallet-wont-have-anything-to-do-with-nfc/
Only it isn't, and has nothing to do with arbitrary specs, it's a technology that introduces an entirely new use for the phone, and influences the way we use something at the root of our culture, society and civilisation - money.
Maybe we should wait for the actual event before we start proclaiming Apple I'd holding back on features. None of us know for sure what Apple will all be announcing on the 12th yet so many are ready to assume it's going to be a complete disappointment.
please, most things like listening to music, movies and email can be easily done with ancient hardware. i've had MP3 players in 2001 that somehow played music with the ancient CPU's of that day
For all their international sales I think Apple is still a US centric company at heart. It seems that if it isn't mainstream in the US they ain't interested. Just look at the fiasco surrounding the 4G iPad which doesn't support any 4G networks outside the US. No doubt if they can't do a deal with the US cable companies & content providers an Apple Television will never see the light of day even if it would work ok outside the US.
Clearly NFC isn't a big deal in the US right now so they ain't going to do it in this version. No matter I'm sure the Europeans and Asians have plenty of other NFC compatible smartphones to chose from so in the end Apple will just lose more sales to the S3.
PS Yada yada to those who criticise me for speculating - if I'm wrong sue me lol.
I really don't like how stubborn Apple is when it comes to adopting features, innovations, that are not theirs.