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New Photos of Alleged iPhone 5C Packaging and Manual

juanmanas said:
I disagree. Hardware comes from the same manufacturers (Sony, Samsung etc). Its the software what makes a difference. Its why the original iPhone, 5 years ago, is more fluid that the Galaxy series.
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I partially agree with you. To some, having bleeding-edge hardware is more important that a fluid OS. Having just left my iPhone 5 for a Sony (and first time Android user), I'll be the first to say iOS is put together better. More fluid, exactly. BUT, for me, I needed better hardware ( bigger screen) and being a tech person, I appreciate the better hardware that the Android market offers.

A few weeks into this, and getting more familiar with Android, I am able to make my Android phone more usable and enjoyable than what I had with my iPhone 5.

So, your statement above might be true for you, and some others, but it's by no means a blanket fact that covers everyone.
 
jer04 said:
...Apple has never stopped giving out SIM card removal tool with iPhones. Even white box replacements come with those.
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Just checked my iPhone 5 box and I don't see one in there anywhere.

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ionjohn said:
Yeah, it has to be fake, HAS TO!
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It looks far too elaborate to be fake but I'm wondering if these will just be sold in Chinese markets where this type of decor isn't so eccentric.
 
juanmanas said:
I disagree. Hardware comes from the same manufacturers (Sony, Samsung etc). Its the software what makes a difference. Its why the original iPhone, 5 years ago, is more fluid that the Galaxy series.
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No that again would be the hardware. The IOS software is bound specifically to that Apples chosen hardware, and was created around Apples chosen manufacturers during development. If you were to run IOS on a similar built Samsung, Sony, LG phone, that doesn't contain the iPhones specific hardware(similar to a Hackintosh), you won't have a smooth user experience.

Apples software is designed to run on only 2-4 differently specced phones max, whereas Android, like Windows, is designed to run on any phone that can support and run Android.

Apple is a Hardware company, always have been. Their software is created for the hardware, which leads to a controlled polished smooth experience. Any android phone( except the Nexus line and Moto X) the Hardware is built after the initial software launch to run the software; and is basically why Samsung tries to create a phone with the top specs, not best user experience.
 
denichidesigns said:
Apple is a Hardware company, always have been. Their software is created for the hardware, which leads to a controlled polished smooth experience.
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This is exactly why I think the software should work even better than it does. There are/has been glitches (sometimes quite big ones) here and there in both iOS and OS X over the years.

I find it quite amazing that both Windows and Android works so well since it's running on so many different kinds of hardware. Apple's software might work better overall, but usually offers less options and should work even better considering it's coming from the same company that makes the hardware.

Just my opinion, but this is how I feel.
 
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star-affinity said:
This is exactly why I think the software should work even better than it does. There's are/has been glitches (sometimes quite big ones) here and there in both iOS and OS X over the years.

I find it quite amazing that both Windows and Android works so well since it's running on so many different kinds of hardware. Apple's software might work better overall, but usually offers less options and should work even better considering it's coming from the same company that makes the hardware.

Just my opinion, but this is how I feel.
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I agree with this. I prefer OSX to any other desktop/laptop operating system. But I think IOS is underwhelming compared to Androids current technology. If only I could get an iPhone 5 build quality with Android 4.3 on it.
 
Appropriate

Most of the markets the 5C targets actually love bling and bright 'look at me' colors. To me they are all pretty gaudy and ugly but I bet they sell like crazy. Apple has clearly done their market research on this one.

Have you seen the speedos and stripe socks they wear in europe? Americans for the most part have a completely different (more conservative) sense of style then the rest of the world... and Ives 'is' european.
 
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groovyd said:
Most of the markets the 5C targets actually love bling and bright 'look at me' colors. To me they are all pretty gaudy and ugly but I bet they sell like crazy. Apple has clearly done their market research on this one.

Have you seen the speedos and stripe socks they wear in europe? Americans for the most part have a completely different (more conservative) sense of style then the rest of the world.
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I think you nailed it on the head.
 
dmylrea said:
I partially agree with you. To some, having bleeding-edge hardware is more important that a fluid OS. Having just left my iPhone 5 for a Sony (and first time Android user), I'll be the first to say iOS is put together better. More fluid, exactly. BUT, for me, I needed better hardware ( bigger screen) and being a tech person, I appreciate the better hardware that the Android market offers.

A few weeks into this, and getting more familiar with Android, I am able to make my Android phone more usable and enjoyable than what I had with my iPhone 5.

So, your statement above might be true for you, and some others, but it's by no means a blanket fact that covers everyone.
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Again, I partially agree.

You say that a bigger screen is "better" hardware. That depends on the user. For some, including myself, a large screen is an issue.

Faster hardware does not mean faster GUI.

Having said that, if you are happy with Android, thats what it counts. There is not right or wrong phone. Everybody has different needs and tastes. Thanks god, we can choose.
 
juanmanas said:
Again, I partially agree.

You say that a bigger screen is "better" hardware. That depends on the user. For some, including myself, a large screen is an issue.
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If you read my post I do state that "for me" I needed a bigger screen. I don't speak for everyone.

juanmanas said:
Faster hardware does not mean faster GUI.

Having said that, if you are happy with Android, thats what it counts. There is not right or wrong phone. Everybody has different needs and tastes. Thanks god, we can choose.
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Faster hardware typically DOES mean a faster GUI. Except in cases of a very poorly designed GUI or phone hardware, I can't think where faster CPU's or GPU's would not correlate to a faster user experience.
 
Twixt said:
The one who looks stupid here is not original poster but you...
400 USD is NOT cheap especially for a mid end phone that is dedicated to emerging countries. It is actually too pricey even for our markets when comparable phone Nexus 4 is priced at 200 usd off contract...
And please dont say I dont know what I am talking about I bought my 3GS at 1000 EUR back in 2009!
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$400 usd sounds pretty cheap compared to 1000 EUR... And the 8gb nexus 4 is now $200, but it's been out for 9 months. Just recently the 16gb version was still $349 (I don't know what it was at launch) and it doesn't support LTE.
 
"The device is also estimated to be $400-$500 without a service contract based on analysis over the past few months."

is this the same guys who said the Moto X would be 249 off contract?
 
dmylrea said:
If you read my post I do state that "for me" I needed a bigger screen. I don't speak for everyone.



Faster hardware typically DOES mean a faster GUI. Except in cases of a very poorly designed GUI or phone hardware, I can't think where faster CPU's or GPU's would not correlate to a faster user experience.
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Man, no offence, but you must be dyslexic. I said "You say that a bigger screen is "better" hardware. That depends on the user. For some, including myself, a large screen is an issue".

I think it's quite explicit that everybody has different needs and views. And yes, you are part of everybody.

Regarding correlations, the S3 has a faster processor than the iPhone 5, and the GUI is obviously less responsive. I would agree with you if you said that about two phones running identical software. But it's not the case, and good hardware can have a lower performance if the software is less optimised.

But even in that case, I don't see how the iPhone 5 would have any improvement on the speed of its GUI with a faster processor, as at least, on iOS 6, it just can't be more fluid than it's now.

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groovyd said:
Most of the markets the 5C targets actually love bling and bright 'look at me' colors. To me they are all pretty gaudy and ugly but I bet they sell like crazy. Apple has clearly done their market research on this one.

Have you seen the speedos and stripe socks they wear in europe? Americans for the most part have a completely different (more conservative) sense of style then the rest of the world... and Ives 'is' european.
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Mate, I truly respect America, but in terms of fashion, we, the old Europeans, are still well ahead.
 
dmylrea said:
You obviously don't understand that most people (a very large majority) buy their iPhone or Android under contract with subsidized lower prices. iPhone 5 = $199. Most any high-end Android phone = $49-$199.

Tell me how those that can't afford an Android are going to be able to afford an iPhone?

The minority that do buy an Android (or iPhone) at full price is so small that your argument is almost meaningless. A $500 iPhone isn't going to cause any meaningful loss of sales to Android. Wake up.
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Yes in the USA I would agree with you but not when it comes to the rest of the world, where a significant proportion of people buy off contract. Apple currently has no viable solution for those people given the very high current full price of the iPhone models.
 
juanmanas said:
Man, no offence, but you must be dyslexic. I said "You say that a bigger screen is "better" hardware. That depends on the user. For some, including myself, a large screen is an issue".

I think it's quite explicit that everybody has different needs and views. And yes, you are part of everybody.
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Well, I don't want to have a war of words, but you started by saying that you "partially agree" (which means you partially disagree) then went on to say how a bigger screen isn't important to everyone (including your self), when in fact, I didn't say or infer that at all (by stating that it was my personal desire to have a bigger screen).

So dyslexia has nothing to do with it. We ultimately agree that everyone has different needs, but my initial comment was a personal choice, one for ME, not one for everyone. That's all I was trying to point out.
 
This is like the Solo Cup of smart phones.

Cheap, colorful, simple and very useful with iOS7 packed in every one.

Sure there is better if you want to pay a premium, but this fits the bill for many people.
 
Definitely fake, too many inconsistencies with other leaks as well as the font is the wrong colour, on almost all backgrounds the font for the apps are white in current betas, I don't see them changing it before release and those colours look straight off the line of a KIRF model.
 
Howyalikdemapls said:
$400 usd sounds pretty cheap compared to 1000 EUR... And the 8gb nexus 4 is now $200, but it's been out for 9 months. Just recently the 16gb version was still $349 (I don't know what it was at launch) and it doesn't support LTE.
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I paid such a high amount because some years ago there was still some attraction for Apple products with no descent competition around. This time has ended now and Appel does not bring enough so as to justify crazy off contract numbers...

I am not sure 5C has LTE support either.
Do not forget that a part of these crazy prices of phones is due to useless marketing and huge amounts wasted into promotion. That is definitely a pro for Nexus
 
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