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New PowerBooks use PowerPC 7457

Re: No PowerPC 7457

Originally posted by motuman
Checked out the new 15" at an Apple Retail Store yesterday

Cracked open Terminal and typed in this command: machine

What was the response:

ppc7450

not 7457, this sucks

No 7457
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Oh and by the way I got the answer to my own question: your post is completely irrelevant. I'm currently on a Dual 1.25 FW800 and machine (in the terminal) returns 7450... What do you think of that? <sarcasm>That was a very good first post...</sarcasm> It's good you only got me to answer to your post, cause some other posters could have been a lot less understanding...
 
I am not bull****ting you these are the results I got:

one of several possibilties:

1) the command line info is correct and uses the 7450

2) the command line info is in error and in reality the CPU really is a 7457


The same command line inquiry done on a G5 reports properly:

ppc970

Maybe these PowerBook G4's for the Apple Store are using the 7450 chip and shipping / production machines will use the 7457, but I doubt it
 
Re: 7200 RPM IBM/Hitachi

Originally posted by Code101
I ordered the 17"
My only problem with it is the HDD. I can't believe Apple didn't put the IBM/Hitachi 7K60 as an option. After I get my 17" Powerbook, I'm going to have to put the 7K60 drive in it. This drive is the only Laptop drive that's 7200 RPM and 8MB cache. Twice as fast as any of the 5400RPM drives.
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Very Interesting.
My problem exactly...

1) If you can put this Hitachi HD in the 17" (it's 60 GB) can you then put the original 17"PB HD in and enclosure and use it with a firewire? Something like this:
http://store.yahoo.com/insidecomputer/driveenclosure1.html

2) Second, Honestly, on these machines is the extra RAM going to make a huge difference or is it more a panacea? If I load up on 1.5 or 2 G's of RAM, is the machine really built to be able to take advantage of this? Will I really be able to feel it?

I know that the G5's will be coming soon, and perhaps it's foolish to purchase PB's now,
Yet, these are Fine Machines at a fine price.
Plus my powerbook G3 (Lombard) While it has been with me for 5 years is being held together now by a rubberband. So I Want.
(I may add that 5 years ago I went through mental anguish about dishing out the cash for this G3PB but it has been one of the best investments)

Finally, my Compliments to this site and tremendous information.
After reading steadily for months, I have become compleatly addicted to the enless cycle of craving and grasping.
What will I do now? (I hear there is a 12 step group for MRA's like myself)
 
NoPrideELF


my friends paretns own a mac reail store and said it will ship before th 23rd but it would sux to get it on the week cuz i am really bussy so wouldn't have a chance to play with it i mean when it comes its gona be awsome but id perfer it this week or weekend rather than next week. waiting is the hardest.

ANYONE HAVE ANY SHIPPING UPDATES IF SO E MAIL ME OR REPLY
 
Originally posted by motuman
I am not bull****ting you these are the results I got:

one of several possibilties:

1) the command line info is correct and uses the 7450

2) the command line info is in error and in reality the CPU really is a 7457


The same command line inquiry done on a G5 reports properly:

ppc970

Maybe these PowerBook G4's for the Apple Store are using the 7450 chip and shipping / production machines will use the 7457, but I doubt it
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Ok I believe you no problem. The thing is, I don't think that command can return the exact processor, but the processor family. It started with the 7450 (is that possible?) and recently all the G4 shipped were 7455 (rev A or rev B). Now the PBs are 7457. But what you get on the machine command doesn't contradict this. Like I said, I got the same answer (7450) on my work dual 1.25 FW800, which is 100% 7455.

Here you go.
 
Originally posted by motuman
I am not bull****ting you these are the results I got:

one of several possibilties:

1) the command line info is correct and uses the 7450

2) the command line info is in error and in reality the CPU really is a 7457


The same command line inquiry done on a G5 reports properly:

ppc970

Maybe these PowerBook G4's for the Apple Store are using the 7450 chip and shipping / production machines will use the 7457, but I doubt it
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A 7450 never was able to scale past 800Mhz so if they did go back from an 7455 to a 7450 and actually increase the chip from a .18 process to a .22 process I am amazed that they are getting up to 1.33Ghz out of that thing in a laptop without it burning down, melting, or catching fire. When I type machine into my terminal I get ppc750 on both my iBook and my iMac, but my iBook is suppose to have a ppc750cx.
 
I called and the person I spoke with said he don't know anything about the" take possession of" bit. He said he was instructed to say the offer applies to purchases made by the 27th. But I think you have to mail it in by a certain date.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: 12" Processor?

Originally posted by NicoMan
This would also indicate that Apple was reluctant to change the overall dimensions of the 15", which would have meant a redesign of the mobo...
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They absolutely did redesign it. The only similar previous PB mobo was the one in the (January '03) 17" PB, which didn't have the "PCI USB Controller" that gives the new PowerBooks USB 2.0--and I highly doubt that they could simply add that chip and drop the mobo into the smaller case. They would've had to physically change it at the very least...

WM
 
Originally posted by csimmons
Forgive me, but you obviously didn't read the entire test result, or you wouldn't have posted such nonsense. Had you read the results and paid attention, you'd have seen that the Centrino beat the G4 in some tests, it was soundly b*tch-slapped by the G4 in the remeining tests.:D
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Here Centrino was running on a real video card.
@ http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/centrino-15.html
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 12" Processor?

Originally posted by WM.
They absolutely did redesign it. The only similar previous PB mobo was the one in the (January '03) 17" PB, which didn't have the "PCI USB Controller" that gives the new PowerBooks USB 2.0--and I highly doubt that they could simply add that chip and drop the mobo into the smaller case. They would've had to physically change it at the very least...

WM
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What else apart from that USB2 support has been changed on the mobo since the TiBook? If that is it, that's not much, and probably didn't require that much work. You see?
 
Re: Kodawarisan: It is a 7447

Originally posted by Hugin777
Someone on MacNN asked "dr-mip" which processor it was. It's a 7447.
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At last we have a final answer. But at this point it doesn't matter much because the 7447 and 7457 work the same (so it appears anyway) once you remove the L3 cache.
 
Re: ipod special?

Originally posted by nalfein
Do anyone asked apple about the ipod deal?

I ordered yesterday 1.25 15" and 10gb ipod, the shipping date for the 1.25 is 23(delayed this mornig) and the shipping date for ipod is october first.

So i dont think i will have the ipod before sept 27.

Will it be possible to get the rebate?
thx
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I ordered a 1.25 15" as well, but I opted for the 20gb ipod. The ipod has shipped and will be arriving monday and the 'book should be shipping monday or tuesday (bto ram). I did, however, order tuesday night, so perhaps I got a one up on your order. It looks like I will get my rebate just fine. Good luck.
 
Originally posted by ddtlm
QCassidy352:


What most people would rather use is heavily influenced by speed compared to other options. Sorry to hear that this bothers you.
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Sorry, but you can’t empirically prove this. If you said, “What many/some people would rather use is heavily influenced by speed compared to other options,” then your statement would’ve been correct. At this point, speed is not the only concern; the whole package is what educated people base their decisions on. It is very misleading for a company, or individual, to make a purchase decision based on a single “influential” aspect.
 
The MCP7457 link provided by apple indicate that the CPU only support a 133 MHz bus. The old leaked internal Motorola document "PPCSALESFACT.pdf" state that the CPU support up to 200 MHz bus.

Speed range is 733-1300 MHz and the SPEC numbers are given as SPEC95 not the current SPEC2000:rolleyes:
 
Fab process and heat or fan issues on 7445

I am hoping that the L2 cache makes up for the missing L3.
SO my real question is wether there are heat issues with this chip and how often the fans come on?

Who has one out there?
 
Originally posted by NicoMan
Ok I believe you no problem. The thing is, I don't think that command can return the exact processor, but the processor family. It started with the 7450 (is that possible?) and recently all the G4 shipped were 7455 (rev A or rev B). Now the PBs are 7457. But what you get on the machine command doesn't contradict this. Like I said, I got the same answer (7450) on my work dual 1.25 FW800, which is 100% 7455.

Here you go.
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I've got a 1Ghz 17" iMac and a 867 MHz 12" PoBo: they both return PPC7450
I guess the info echoed by the terminal isn't accurate and it just means G4?
 
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