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New PowerMacs 8/13/02

Bull-cr*p

My brand new straight from Apple 17" iMac I picked up at the Apple store on Saturday night did NOT have 10.2 on it. I don't believe this news factoid. Sorry.

Of course, I also could't believe my ears when I the rep at the store Saturday told me that they would not have the 10.2 update available for people that recently purchased the new iMac, and that I would indeed have to get my "free" update via Apple. I know two things, for $20 shipping, they better sent it overnight and I better have it on release day!
 
DDR

Originally posted by giovanni
why everyone is soooooo fixated with DDR ? it seems like lots of bs. Check this out - http://www.barefeats.com/xserve2.html
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The problem w/ the xServe is that it's not true DDR, it's DDR to chipset, but then the bandwith between the chipset and the CPU is at slow standard bus speed, if it was DDR speed the whole way thru, which we're hoping they've done, it would rock.

Now, I've asked this before and I'll ask it again.

Does anyone know how we will be able to tell weather the DDR is DDR-->chipset only or DDR to chipset to CPU ? please someone tell me?
 
Re: DDR

Originally posted by cyberfunk

Does anyone know how we will be able to tell weather the DDR is DDR-->chipset only or DDR to chipset to CPU ? please someone tell me?
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we won't know until the new machines are released

arn
 
Originally posted by Bonte
Its not going to be DDR if there is a price drop, thats for sure.
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Not true... Apple could finnaly have realized it's overpricing it's pro machines ?
 
Originally posted by cyberfunk


son, what are you smoking ? The whole frikin East COAST is on EST, Boston, NewYork, Florida, not to mention all the other places.. EST = eastern standard time
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Actually Indiana is the only one on EST. I live in Indiana and we're on EST. Everyone else is on EDT right now because they have Daylight Savings Time and we don't. (Eastern Daylight Time vs. Eastern Standard Time). EST is actually the same as CDT (Central Daylight Time) right now. Until those states with Daylight Savings Time switch back.
 
Originally posted by cyberfunk


son, what are you smoking ? The whole frikin East COAST is on EST, Boston, NewYork, Florida, not to mention all the other places.. EST = eastern standard time
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Don't they teach ANYTHING in school anymore?

Homework for tonight: Learn the difference between daylight and standard time and then as a bonus tell us when day light savings is...
 
Re: daylight

Originally posted by cyberfunk
Even tho daylight savings time is in effect, everyone still calls it EST
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Yeah, so they may. I know it's a little technicality. And it seems stupid that it actually is that way. For us it's a big deal though because we even have parts of our own state that are on CDT vs being on EST. When states that are on CDT switch back to CST, part of our state changes but the rest of us stay on EST and are then in sync with the states that were on EDT that switched back to EST. Makes it very confusing.

Anyway, just wanted to point out that that one guy wasn't totally out of his gourd.
 
Release dates and ending of offers

August 13 seems to make sense. I was talking with a person who was interested in buying an 800 MHz G4 PowerMac. I warned her that the new models were coming out very soon, but she wanted to go for the deal since she could get $300 off of a 17" flat panel display, and that offer ends the 13th, I believe. So, it looks like the end of that offer might herald the release date of the new Macs.

In some ways, it would have been nicer if Apple had announced the new G4's at the NY Expo, but I'm guessing that if they had done that, they might have ended up sacrificing their current Pro line-up, which wouldn't be good for their sales, especially since the higher priced machines tend to bring in a much higher profit.
 
Re: Re: daylight

Originally posted by kenohki


Yeah, so they may. I know it's a little technicality. And it seems stupid that it actually is that way. For us it's a big deal though because we even have parts of our own state that are on CDT vs being on EST. When states that are on CDT switch back to CST, part of our state changes but the rest of us stay on EST and are then in sync with the states that were on EDT that switched back to EST. Makes it very confusing.

Anyway, just wanted to point out that that one guy wasn't totally out of his gourd.
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Thanks for pointing that out, I had forgotten about that weirdity.. that must be a real pain in the ass at times.
 
Ummmm What are YOU smoking. Mister, the whole East Coast is currently on EDT that's EASTERN DAYLIGHT TIME. EST will return at the end of October. Geezus. Get your facts straight.

P.S. Arizona also does not observe daylight savings time.
 
Re: daylight

Originally posted by cyberfunk
Even tho daylight savings time is in effect, everyone still calls it EST
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That is so totally wrong and false it's too funny. When daylight savings time is in effect, it is known as DAYLIGHT TIME. When it is NOT, it is known as STANDARD TIME. Good GOD.
 
Re: daylight

Originally posted by cyberfunk
Even tho daylight savings time is in effect, everyone still calls it EST
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Sorry, I'm afraid you're incorrect. PDT, MDT, CDT, and EDT are standard nomenclature for the time zones when Daylight Savings is in effect. Take a look at this site.
 
Re: New PowerMacs 8/13/02

Originally posted by arn
...Jaguar also appears to be ready for public use -- Xlr8yourmac.com posted a reader report that a new iBook came with a copy of Jaguar.
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At the new Apple Store in Los Angeles last weekend, the rep told me that their shipment of the 17 inch iMacs all had 10.2 installed, and that they would go on the floor this week.

BTW, The store was packed. There was a waiting line for nearly every display on both floors!
 
I was with a buddy this weekend from Genentech and he said that a coworker was all worked up about Apple shipping him a new G5. Another co worker responed saying, "that they don't have a G5," he said, "that's what they're shipping him." Apparentley Genentech does testing for Apple. I'm not sure if this is a test machine for something to be released in January or one of the new PowerMacs.
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Steve Jobs and the CEO of Genetech are neighbors. Apparently the CEO is sold and keeps trying to push the entire company over to macs. There is a lot of reisitance to this (as you would expect from a bunch of corporate PC users). How deep this working relationship goes is a good question. I remember reading they use macs to do some pretty extensive number crunching for their research. Does this mean they get first look at the new stuff to see how much better it is and how well it handles real world heavy use?

I know a higher up in Genetech and I can ask what he knows. I doubt he'll have anything b/c he is here in CT and not in the CA labs. He's also one of the guys who does not like the CEO's push to use Macs. But if he happens to have any laying around the office, I may have to stop by to say hi with my spycam ;)
 
Originally posted by DaveGee


Don't they teach ANYTHING in school anymore?

Homework for tonight: Learn the difference between daylight and standard time and then as a bonus tell us when day light savings is...
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Unfortunately they don't. It's amazing. People get all the way to college and don't know these things. I met this photographer who was hired by FEMA to shoot pictures of the WTC disaster site. He said how he had never heard of FEMA. He's like 30 frigging years old, and American. HELLO????? Has this guy never read the news his whole life?
 
Originally posted by cyberfunk


son, what are you smoking ? The whole frikin East COAST is on EST, Boston, NewYork, Florida, not to mention all the other places.. EST = eastern standard time
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Actually, you are the pinhead who's smoking something. The "Standard" in Eastern Standard Time is meant to differentiate Eastern Standard Time from Eastern Daylight Time.

I assume you know what Daylight Savings Time is. (and yes, the "Daylight" in Eastern Daylight Time means that the time is given with the Daylight Savings adjustment.

also, it's friggin' not "frikin"
 
OK.

How does this affect us in Britain? Will PowerMacs be released here before an announcement in the US?
Or do we have to wait until something like 4pm before we see the specs.
My mate wants his iBook back soon, and I need a PowerMac asap, 'moan Apple!!!
 
You will know in Britain the same time everyone else does. On the apple.com website. Probably arond 12:00 pm or later, EDT. That means 5:00 pm or later, in Britain.
 
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