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New PowerMacs and More on Tuesday?
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Does anyone know where the dual layer blank discs can be bought and how much they are? I never see them in the stores or advertised.
If True, Who Waits....
If in fact this rumor carries its weight tomorrow and ThinkSecret is praised for their uncanny accuracy, I still debate on waiting for the elusive dual-dual configuration (which of course is a pipe-dream right now until Apple delivers anyway) versus making a purchase on a dual 2.7. I have a daw project studio, and have been maintaining a holding pattern until I felt ready to make the PowerMac plunge. My G4 TiBook 867 with 1 gig ram is just not performing up to my needs for intensive audio apps and plug-ins.
My question is whether the first dual dual (assuming it will probably enter at a lower clock speed than the current dual singles) will show a dramatic improvement in overall performance?
If in fact this rumor carries its weight tomorrow and ThinkSecret is praised for their uncanny accuracy, I still debate on waiting for the elusive dual-dual configuration (which of course is a pipe-dream right now until Apple delivers anyway) versus making a purchase on a dual 2.7. I have a daw project studio, and have been maintaining a holding pattern until I felt ready to make the PowerMac plunge. My G4 TiBook 867 with 1 gig ram is just not performing up to my needs for intensive audio apps and plug-ins.
My question is whether the first dual dual (assuming it will probably enter at a lower clock speed than the current dual singles) will show a dramatic improvement in overall performance?
ORDER STATUS IS DOWN
I can;t check my TIGER order status as it is coming up with a message:
Thank you for shopping at the Apple Online Store
Apple's Online and phone Order Status services are temporarily unavailable due to a scheduled upgrade to our systems.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
For more assistance with your order, contact Apple Customer Support at 1-800-676-2775.
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I can;t check my TIGER order status as it is coming up with a message:
Thank you for shopping at the Apple Online Store
Apple's Online and phone Order Status services are temporarily unavailable due to a scheduled upgrade to our systems.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
For more assistance with your order, contact Apple Customer Support at 1-800-676-2775.
Sales and Refunds | Terms of Use | Privacy Policy
Copyright © 2005 Apple Computer, Inc. All rights reserved.
The chain of events has begun
1) ORDER STATUS GOES DOWN (a few hours before updates)(Very early today, usually it happens a couple of hours before the stores go down)(must be heaps of updates)
2) THEN APPLESTORES GO DOWN. Generally starting with the European countries moving onto the Pacific region - then the US last.
3) ALL STORE RE_OPEN at once and we can buy new stuff
1) ORDER STATUS GOES DOWN (a few hours before updates)(Very early today, usually it happens a couple of hours before the stores go down)(must be heaps of updates)
2) THEN APPLESTORES GO DOWN. Generally starting with the European countries moving onto the Pacific region - then the US last.
3) ALL STORE RE_OPEN at once and we can buy new stuff
JRM PowerPod said:
A definite sign that:
a) My copy of Tiger is out the door and on its way to my humble abode
b) New PowerMacs are being added to the store under the catchphrase "The most powerful Mac is now inches closer to 3GHz"
The second option is nothing to get excited about. Move along.
F it. I'm buying tomorrow if the PMs are upgraded. I was willing to pay for the 2.5 so for the same price, I get a 2.7 (x2) and whatever else they add as an incentive for such a crappy processor upgrade. 
I find it kind of odd how people complain about these new chips possibly being only 2.7ghz. Please, tell me what AMD's fastest chip runs at in terms of clock speed....what's that you say... the FX-55 runs at ONLY 2.6 ghz....gee wiz.
I'm not saying there aren't other things that could have been added to this release (pci express, dual core chips, etc), but the processor speeds are not something to complain about. You can't compare different chips on the basis of clock cycle. Also, becuase (most) mac users run osx as opposed to some x86 os, even benchmarks are questionable in terms of comparing processing power.
Be happy with what you've got
Now, if we were talking about powerbooks I might be singing a different song..
Cheers,
Justin
I'm not saying there aren't other things that could have been added to this release (pci express, dual core chips, etc), but the processor speeds are not something to complain about. You can't compare different chips on the basis of clock cycle. Also, becuase (most) mac users run osx as opposed to some x86 os, even benchmarks are questionable in terms of comparing processing power.
Be happy with what you've got
Now, if we were talking about powerbooks I might be singing a different song..
Cheers,
Justin
I hope they get updated within the next twelve hours so us other-side-of-the-worlders can actually be half awake while it's all happening for once. That'd be great.
I've heard that the optical drives in the current PowerMacs are dual layer drives that have been disabled. Apparently a French (I think) site posted a firmware hack to allow the dual burning ability.
Has anyone else heard this? Any rumors about a firmware update for those of us with these drives?
Thanks -
-- David
Has anyone else heard this? Any rumors about a firmware update for those of us with these drives?
Thanks -
-- David
SHIPPING TIMES
PowerMac's 1-3 Days
PowerBook 1-3
iBook 1-3
Mac mini 1-3
eMac 5-7
iMac 5-7
What does this mean
a) PowerMacs are updated tomorrow can ship immediately
b) PowerBook - just due to Tiger (no updates) (HD screen?)
c) IBook and Mac mini - Ram possibly updated - CPU? Or maybe just due to tiger as well.
d) eMac and iMac are both 5-7 days. This would seem as if they will be updated when Tiger is released on Friday.
Just my interpretation of the unfolding events
PowerMac's 1-3 Days
PowerBook 1-3
iBook 1-3
Mac mini 1-3
eMac 5-7
iMac 5-7
What does this mean
a) PowerMacs are updated tomorrow can ship immediately
b) PowerBook - just due to Tiger (no updates) (HD screen?)
c) IBook and Mac mini - Ram possibly updated - CPU? Or maybe just due to tiger as well.
d) eMac and iMac are both 5-7 days. This would seem as if they will be updated when Tiger is released on Friday.
Just my interpretation of the unfolding events
JRM PowerPod said:
Not for me. I CAN check my order status, and my Tiger order has changed from Processing Order to Preparing Shipment! Yay!
finally...
we can go back to daily business, no ? ;-)
These Powermacs are the same system available now, albeit with updated CPUs and optical drives. The chips are still of the FX variety. IMO there is no way we will see Dual Cores until the end of the year, October / November time frame, which is why it makes sense to run the current platform with a speed bump. The dual cores, which need a new MB / pin config will get the PCIe, faster memory bus and so on; it makes perfect business-sense.
I would love to know if the Apple store will take orders for the Dual burners to be updated in current PMs....
Cheers,
Dan
we can go back to daily business, no ? ;-)
These Powermacs are the same system available now, albeit with updated CPUs and optical drives. The chips are still of the FX variety. IMO there is no way we will see Dual Cores until the end of the year, October / November time frame, which is why it makes sense to run the current platform with a speed bump. The dual cores, which need a new MB / pin config will get the PCIe, faster memory bus and so on; it makes perfect business-sense.
I would love to know if the Apple store will take orders for the Dual burners to be updated in current PMs....
Cheers,
Dan
justinshiding said:
I don't quite understand the logic behind these comments. As Mac faithful, we are ALL aware of the components within the CPU that make up overall performance, other than clockspeed. We have chanted Megahertz myth for years, in order to protect ourselves from the taunts of Intel bullies.
So why would you think we are upset purely over the fact that we are only at 2.7GHz compared to AMD's 2.6GHz chips. We are not upset about the number 2.7, relative to the competition. We are upset about 2.7 relative to 2 point freekin 5. Or even 3 point zero! A 200MHz increase in a year! come on! A promise of 3GHz a year ago, and we're still not there!??
THAT, my friend, is what we're upset aboot (scottish accent for no apparent reason).
d.perel said:
Maybe the new top end PowerMac will indeed be at 2.7 GHz - per processor, per core!
I could be wrong but I believe the only thing that separates a single layer burner and a dual layer burner is a firmware update, at least with the recent models. With that being said a firmware update is the only thing that is different between the two, not any different parts or anything. I don't know how true this is but I read it in a recent thread. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.DavidM said:
Sorry to dash everybody's hopes, but here's a bit of Mac Rumor wisdom:
The most pessimistic rumors are often the correct ones.
The most pessimistic rumors are often the correct ones.
are you sure? WHERE !!!
$20 is a typical price for a 3-pack (down from $40 for a 3 pack a few months ago).
$20 for ten would be great - where????
And, BTW, to the editors: the term is "double layer", not "dual layer". "Double layer - Dual format" - there's enough confusion with the editors misusing the terms....
From Doctor Q: Apple apparently uses both descriptions. See http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/dvdstudiopro/specs.html and http://www.apple.com/pro/video/kobler/index3.html.
avalys said:
$20 is a typical price for a 3-pack (down from $40 for a 3 pack a few months ago).
$20 for ten would be great - where????
And, BTW, to the editors: the term is "double layer", not "dual layer". "Double layer - Dual format" - there's enough confusion with the editors misusing the terms....
From Doctor Q: Apple apparently uses both descriptions. See http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/dvdstudiopro/specs.html and http://www.apple.com/pro/video/kobler/index3.html.