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dosers said:
Actually, a Dual Core processor is, if designed correctly, inherintly more efficient than Dual CPUs. Dual CPUs have to communicate with each other on a bus (even though the PMs is very fast), as well as with the memory (even if the bus is seperate, this tends to be quite slow, even on speed king AMD - in comparison to core speed).
Dual Core CPUs, which should have seperate caches (both Intel and AMD do) have by definition the most efficient way to communicate with each other. As long as they can address the bus seperately they have the POTENTIAL to be better than a same-speed Dual Processor.
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The DC Intels do *not* have on-chip core-to-core interconnects. Each core has to go out to the external bus on the motherboard to communicate, just like a dual processor system. AMD, however, did it right, as I'm sure IBM will.
 
Kerry Sanders said:
OK... I have a question for the people in this thread. How many people, other than me, are actually planning to purchase a new Mac and are only waiting to see if Apple makes any announcements to coincide with Tiger's release?

I am going to order a Power Mac G5 system, but I want to see if they do make announcements. :)

I'm waiting for either an "iBook mini" or the next rev. of the 12" iBook.
 
The Truth said:
I wonder how many people who complain about the 3Ghz promise would actually buy one if it was released.

Lots of people. There were many people (myself included) who bought the original dual 2.0 and then skipped the 2.5 because it wasn't enough of an upgrade. All these people are waiting, and maybe if it is 2.7 they will keep waiting.
 
I'll wait until WWDC to see if any dual core supermacs are announced. If not, I just can't wait anymore and will buy a 2.3 and trade it in for a supermac PCIe machine whenever those show up. I've been waiting 7 months for something great!
 
mwatch said:
I just bought a 12" Powerbook. My wife doesn't know it yet, but I will order a 2.0 Dual G5 when they are announced. :D

I did that once. I purchase a Dell Inspiron 8500 to use for home and work. She was upset, because I never really used the Compaq laptop that I already had, but then again, they were beasts of a different kind. I use the Dell all the time and she knows that now. I have had it for two years. We just got confirmation that her new Dell 6000 is on its way as of today.

Now... she knows that I am very interested in a Mac and I guess she has resigned to the fact that I am going to order it, so she hasn't said anything about it. As soon as Apple makes an announcement or something soon, I am going to purchase a dual G5 system, but I haven't decided which one yet. I was looking at the dual 2.0 GHz system, but if they announce a step up and it is about the same price, I may go with that. It all depends on what the prices look like and the system configurations that are available.
 
:)

You are right - I stand corrected. The Smithfied core is lacking - Intel's next iteration is 'supposed' to have interconnected, same-die dual core. That's according to Intel so we'll see ;-)

daveL said:
The DC Intels do *not* have on-chip core-to-core interconnects. Each core has to go out to the external bus on the motherboard to communicate, just like a dual processor system. AMD, however, did it right, as I'm sure IBM will.
 
DavidM said:
I've heard that the optical drives in the current PowerMacs are dual layer drives that have been disabled. Apparently a French (I think) site posted a firmware hack to allow the dual burning ability.

Has anyone else heard this? Any rumors about a firmware update for those of us with these drives?
Yea its true. I have the current dual 2.0 and it came with a Pioneer 117D, which i successfully flashed to a Pioneer 108... a 16x DVD-R & 4x DL DVD-R (burns a full DVD in 3 minutes!).
works great in Toast, DVD Studio Pro, the Finder, and all the iApps after you install Patchburn. Hopefully now that the dual-layer drives come standard and non-crippled, we'll start to see the iApps add support for Dual-Layer burning.
 
Rocket Rion said:
I'll wait until WWDC to see if any dual core supermacs are announced. If not, I just can't wait anymore and will buy a 2.3 and trade it in for a supermac PCIe machine whenever those show up. I've been waiting 7 months for something great!

I used to wait, but everything always passed me by and I know that I cannot spend the money that they would want for them. I am going to buy a dual G5 system that I can afford now and I think I will be very happy with it. It will be much faster than this 1.67 GHz AMD based PC that I have sitting here and it will probably be more secure and bug free. :D
 
Bear said:
Probably at some point, possibly with the next update. Apple has been pretty good about keeping the burner technology moving along in each product line.

I don't know about that considering they are having heating problems with the iMacs. I mean if they do it won't be till a lot later. Besides if they did do it what would be the incentive in getting a powermac vs an iMac
 
I want a better PowerBook

In response to who will actually buy something announced soon, not me, unless it is a completely different/better PowerBook, something that actually lives up the "Power"Book name, and isn't a wilting "Flower"Book... I am STILL using my Oct. '01 TiBook/667, and have been waiting for something actually WORTH the insane amount Apple is asking for the current PowerBooks. I have been THIS CLOSE to buying an Inspiron XPS Gen 2... But we all know the 'Books aren't going to be updated for a long time... I told myself a long time ago I would buy a new PowerBook when Tiger came out, but now I am beginning to have the biggest lapse in my Mac-Loving life EVER... C'mon IBM, get off your @$$e$ and make us a low power G5! That or FreeScale get off THEIR @$$e$ and get us a dual-core G4! Either way, I am getting increasingly pissed off at the Apple platform, though I have supported/defended/used them for pretty much my entire life (since our Apple IIe when I was 4 years old). Software can only do so much... -JB
 
Console game workstations

GFLPraxis said:
w00t! The top end might not be a huge upgrade (who cares, Intel is having equal troubles, nyah nyah x86!), but it's a VERY nice upgrade for the low end. People who want a $2000 or $2500 PowerMac, now is the time to buy.

Dual layer burners, as well.

And further, this also means Stevie might have something really big saved for June. A fifth PowerMac model with dual dual core processors at $3500 perhaps? It would fit with the current lineup.

Perhaps a high end workstation with an integrated cell chip for making the games! I saw a picture of an alleged Xbox 2 development machine that was a Powermac. Anyone else see this, or was it an old April 1 joke? Perhaps that would dovetail with the page 2 Apple gaming division rumor.
 
Imacs

Tomorrow is my birthday. April 26th is the date at which the hardware updates were rumored to be released and this is awesome! BUT...I am getting a 20 inch imac with a gig of ram...the 2.0 g5 better be out tomorrow...its my birthday...it has to! No choice!
 
Rusheleau said:
Tomorrow is my birthday. April 26th is the date at which the hardware updates were rumored to be released and this is awesome! BUT...I am getting a 20 inch imac with a gig of ram...the 2.0 g5 better be out tomorrow...its my birthday...it has to! No choice!

Cool... happy birthday... a day early. :)

I hope that the announcements are made tomorrow as well. I have been waiting three weeks now. It is driving me nuts. I have not gotten anything done around my house or at work, because I have been reading up on Mac information constantly. :eek:
 
Kerry Sanders said:
Cool... happy birthday... a day early. :)

I hope that the announcements are made tomorrow as well. I have been waiting three weeks now. It is driving me nuts. I have not gotten anything done around my house or at work, because I have been reading up on Mac information constantly. :eek:

Seriously man, Today I checked every single rumor site. I just want to know for sure. My hopes are up so high. My visa is seriously out right now. As soon as I see it there Im gone. I am in school and am studying for exams right now. And I lost a rediculous amount of time today because of this. I hate being a nerd. God im a nerd.
 
Will anyone truly notice the difference between 2.5 GHz and 2.7 GHz? I guess that's per processor, making it a 400 MHz change, but still, I would have thought Apple could come up with a more significant increase - I guess the processor industry truly has hit the wall. Hopefully the next major updates will include 3+ GHz or dual core or some other major advancement.
 
Rusheleau said:
Seriously man, Today I checked every single rumor site. I just want to know for sure. My hopes are up so high. My visa is seriously out right now. As soon as I see it there Im gone. I am in school and am studying for exams right now. And I lost a rediculous amount of time today because of this. I hate being a nerd. God im a nerd.


Aren't we all nerds thou, i mean i already have my Tiger being shipped to me but am going to the release party still :p. and i have your typical nerd stuff, anime and Star Wars (fiance calls me a otaku/dork [same thing basically])
 
Rusheleau said:
Tomorrow is my birthday. April 26th

Happy Birthday man! You share the same birthday with my sister.

I will buy a PowerMac G5, eventually... hopefully later this year... once I get a real full-time career job and start raking in the dollars again. (Gone from a $64K job down to about $20K as I went through a Master's degree, now working for $8/hour, hoping to get back up there again soon!)
 
Object-X said:
Perhaps a high end workstation with an integrated cell chip for making the games! I saw a picture of an alleged Xbox 2 development machine that was a Powermac. Anyone else see this, or was it an old April 1 joke? Perhaps that would dovetail with the page 2 Apple gaming division rumor.

You do realize that the XBox 2 is using PowerPC processors, not Cell chips, right? ;)
 
Rusheleau said:
Seriously man, Today I checked every single rumor site. I just want to know for sure. My hopes are up so high.

Same here... I have the credit card ready. I just haven't decided if I want to get the Apple Cinema display (20") or a 20" LCD with DVI input from another manufacturer.
 
Yvan256 said:
I can't access ThinkSecret?!

Neither can I. New thread of speculation - ThinkSecret's website is down for maintenance after they realized that they were completely off the mark on the latest round of rumors, and need to work at a furious pace to put the true specs up for us.....
 
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