ShnikeJSB, he's the company's figurehead, it's his job to get the blame just as he gets the credit. Don't take it personally that some of us think his recent attempts to actually make the G5 the Fastest Computer In The World are a little lame. 
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Credit card in one hand, phone in the other. Eyes on the apple site....SPEND SPEND SPEND!!!
If this is true it is good news for me.
If this is true it is good news for me.
I agree to a point
Yes, he is the "figurehead", but I lay the blame moreso on IBM and their inability to deliver. He can't snap his fingers and produce dual-core processors. All he has been trying to do is pass on what IBM has told him, and do it with fanfare to keep us (and the press) happy. I am sure that one of the big reasons Apple isn't giving out specs and release dates is BECAUSE of the whole folly with the "3GHz by next summer" debacle. THIS is what I lay blame on Mr. Jobs for -- his ego was badly bruised and his natural reaction is to clam up from then on and go after those who ruin his chance at redemption (AKA Suing ThinkSecrect for leaking info that HE wanted to reveal). Just a thought. Also, I am kind of pissed off today, as my girlfriend of 4-1/2 years just told me she wants to see other guys, and we broke up... -JB
mad jew said:ShnikeJSB, he's the company's figurehead, it's his job to get the blame just as he gets the credit. Don't take it personally that some of us think his recent attempts to actually make the G5 the Fastest Computer In The World are a little lame.
Yes, he is the "figurehead", but I lay the blame moreso on IBM and their inability to deliver. He can't snap his fingers and produce dual-core processors. All he has been trying to do is pass on what IBM has told him, and do it with fanfare to keep us (and the press) happy. I am sure that one of the big reasons Apple isn't giving out specs and release dates is BECAUSE of the whole folly with the "3GHz by next summer" debacle. THIS is what I lay blame on Mr. Jobs for -- his ego was badly bruised and his natural reaction is to clam up from then on and go after those who ruin his chance at redemption (AKA Suing ThinkSecrect for leaking info that HE wanted to reveal). Just a thought. Also, I am kind of pissed off today, as my girlfriend of 4-1/2 years just told me she wants to see other guys, and we broke up... -JB
Hi ShnikeJSB
Sorry if I offended you, but the butt has to stop some where and Mr Jobs who does like the personal touch if you do note from all his laid back publicity, is the CEO and yer he's does some wonderful things and I've used his products for over 11 years have ahouse studio and office full of Mac's but feel this is a let down, I had my wallet half open waiting for upgrades to the power mac range and all we get is a slight over clocking, oh and for all you know I could have been Steve's mother ( o.k I would probably gone on about him never tidying his room )
TTFN
Subcoustic
Sorry if I offended you, but the butt has to stop some where and Mr Jobs who does like the personal touch if you do note from all his laid back publicity, is the CEO and yer he's does some wonderful things and I've used his products for over 11 years have ahouse studio and office full of Mac's but feel this is a let down, I had my wallet half open waiting for upgrades to the power mac range and all we get is a slight over clocking, oh and for all you know I could have been Steve's mother ( o.k I would probably gone on about him never tidying his room )
TTFN
Subcoustic
ShnikeJSB said:
I'm really sorry about your girlfriend.
That sucks.On the topic of IBM though, you're right that they should get the blame for not supplying faster processors. But Apple (Steve) shouldn't have got into the position where they are so reliant on a third-party to supply cutting edge technology, especially considering the premium they charge.
Sorry to interrupt the Love/Hate Steve Jobs debate, but what time are we expecting these updatates anyway? (going on past releases?)
unknownfairy said:
Somewhere between 01:00 and 03:00 pm Amsterdam time.. dunno what time it then is in OZ, Sydney?
Apple Hardware
Thanks for the comment. Although I have 3 things due tomorrow that I haven't even finished, these boards are keeping me sane (good thing I am a geek)! I also agree with the comment that Apple has become too reliant on third parties, which is why I am glad they have made such great strides with making their own software (and making it great for that matter), but the time is now to begin creating their own hardware (besides iPods). With the influx of money from iPods and iTunes, they could be fabbing their own processors and graphics cards by now! Actually, they probably can't, but still, they should be able to do something else that would rely less on those unreliable outside sources and do it themselves! They already proved that they can do things like that, they just need to kick it up a notch or 40...
mad jew said:I'm really sorry about your girlfriend.
On the topic of IBM though, you're right that they should get the blame for not supplying faster processors. But Apple (Steve) shouldn't have got into the position where they are so reliant on a third-party to supply cutting edge technology, especially considering the premium they charge.
Thanks for the comment. Although I have 3 things due tomorrow that I haven't even finished, these boards are keeping me sane (good thing I am a geek)! I also agree with the comment that Apple has become too reliant on third parties, which is why I am glad they have made such great strides with making their own software (and making it great for that matter), but the time is now to begin creating their own hardware (besides iPods). With the influx of money from iPods and iTunes, they could be fabbing their own processors and graphics cards by now! Actually, they probably can't, but still, they should be able to do something else that would rely less on those unreliable outside sources and do it themselves! They already proved that they can do things like that, they just need to kick it up a notch or 40...
Steve's barnstorming speech in summer 2003 introducing the G5 will surely go down in history as one of the most damaging and embarrasing marketing/hyping exercises in computing salesmanship.
People have been expecting the 3Gh machines for almost a year already and, like me, putting off buying pro-end PMs because of this.
Big mistake!
Will we get a public apology!
People have been expecting the 3Gh machines for almost a year already and, like me, putting off buying pro-end PMs because of this.
Big mistake!
Will we get a public apology!
toontra said:
No way man. People had been waiting for the G5 for ages - it had almost reached mythical status. If anything was hype-worthy it was the G5 launch!
Good stuff Apple
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Well. it's gonna be a late night tonight - lucky I'm not working tomorrow. I might just have to stay up to witness this event!! Anyone else going to be continually refreshing Safari in about 5 hours?
Oh yeah - my Tiger order has progressed to 'Processing your order'. Anyone else here in Aus have the same order status - may be indicative of a shipping date tomorrow???
aussie_geek
JRM PowerPod said:
:Well. it's gonna be a late night tonight - lucky I'm not working tomorrow. I might just have to stay up to witness this event!! Anyone else going to be continually refreshing Safari in about 5 hours?
Oh yeah - my Tiger order has progressed to 'Processing your order'. Anyone else here in Aus have the same order status - may be indicative of a shipping date tomorrow???
aussie_geek
Nooooo Five Hours? I don't think my nerves will last another five hours.aussie_geek said:
...Imagine if this all turned out to be like April 1st...
unknownfairy said:
then I am gonna laugh hard!
Now I can feel the tension rising aswell ! want an hardware update so bad !
does anyone have any thoughts about delivery times for the new PMacs. I shall open the bidding at 10 days.
We need to set up a service to call or SMS people like "us" when The Apple Store is updated. I would like to go to bed, but wake up to a call or SMS notifying me the store is back up and updated.
sonofpismo said:We need to set up a service to call or SMS people like "us" when The Apple Store is updated. I would like to go to bed, but wake up to a call or SMS notifying me the store is back up and updated.
Uh, shouldn't you just be waking up? (or have i got the time-zone thing totally confused???)
Good idea though, it'd be nice to be able to step away from the computer for a few hours and know that you'd be notified as soon as the store was up and running...
Well if this turns out to be true I am severely gobsmacked by such a barefaced cheek of an upgrade after a year...it would seem these days, all it takes to make a few billion $ is to put some rusty old transistors in a pretty little dress and stand back and laugh at the drooling hoards...
I have the money waiting, but seeing as I don't know when I'll be able to upgrade again I am loathed to spend it on what sounds very much like last year's architecture, which was probably the year before's architecture anyway hehe. Alas tho it be in vain I will wait until this announcement and then June to decide
WebOb
I have the money waiting, but seeing as I don't know when I'll be able to upgrade again I am loathed to spend it on what sounds very much like last year's architecture, which was probably the year before's architecture anyway hehe. Alas tho it be in vain I will wait until this announcement and then June to decide
WebOb
unknownfairy said:Uh, shouldn't you just be waking up? (or have i got the time-zone thing totally confused???)
Good idea though, it'd be nice to be able to step away from the computer for a few hours and know that you'd be notified as soon as the store was up and running...
I work at a bar/nightclub, so I usually go to sleep when the sun rises.
But, I am never working during a keynote ... although none have been live recently, nor will any apparently again. Although, I think we will know when a PowerBook G5 is released when we hear a certain keynote might be broadcast live.
I am hoping Apple knows the strong, strong demand for an all out completely new portable from Apple.
G.Kirby said:does anyone have any thoughts about delivery times for the new PMacs. I shall open the bidding at 10 days.
Hmmm. I reakon it will be a little quicker than that considering that some retail outlets are recieving new stock (according to appleinsider). Apple's best bet would be to have Tiger installed in a brand new PowerMac at the AppleStore, with 50 others like it out in the storeroom ready for sale.
aussie_geek