New PowerMacs and More on Tuesday?

[osarda]

PLEASE WAIT FOR THE PM Purchases....

Again, don't be hasty in purchasing the new Powermacs that should come out tomorrow and which should have come out at NAB last week.

Apple did run into problems with the dual cores which were supposed to be released at NAB. Furthermore, a personal source of mine who works for Apple confirmed that the Quad Cores were to be released in the Autumn. All the release dates have been pushed back due to hardware/software quirks that would not stick with the pro line users.... It is very possible that the meager 200mhz upgrade tomorrow is only to hold off Apple's demanding pro user base who are on their backs. Apple was supposed to beat AMD and Intel in annoucing dual core technology and soon after quad core to blow everybody away. Steve, after all, does have an ego.

But good things come to those who wait. I suggest waiting for WWDC in early June. And you shall see....

My $.02

 

[drewyboy]

Thinksecret

Well...it's back up and absolutely nothing has changed.. looks like just a server prob. or maybe overload of ppl surging to see what they have to say, so they shut down for a little bit. Eh... i hate rumors.. they kill.. but i know i can't live w/o them. CURSE YOU RUMORS!!!

 

[Yvan256]

Woo, come on new iMac.

Any Canadians want to buy a powerbook??

Specs/price?

 

[ShnikeJSB]

200MHz...

OK, lemme put it THIS way... When I bought this TiBook G4/667 back in 2001, the leap from 500MHz on the 100MHz bus to 667MHz on the 133MHz bus was quite a leap after like a year of no updates. This was a 167MHz jump. Now does this 200MHz jump look so good? I don't think so... And to think we hated Motorola and thought IBM was our savior... -JB

 

[adam1185]

Specs/price?

http://www.ehmac.ca/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=1564

lemme know what you think...or if the price is terribly out of line.

 

[tortus]

Absolutely right

The DC Intels do *not* have on-chip core-to-core interconnects. Each core has to go out to the external bus on the motherboard to communicate, just like a dual processor system. AMD, however, did it right, as I'm sure IBM will.

Amd's dual cores contain a cache for each core along with interconnects between the cores. The 970MP has the same set up. The benchmarks for the dual processor dual core opteron (even on unstable motherboards) are very impressive. Come on Apple, throw us a bone. My dual 867 g4 PM is tired.

 

[Cooknn]

Again, don't be hasty in purchasing the new Powermacs that should come out tomorrow and which should have come out at NAB last week.

Apple did run into problems with the dual cores which were supposed to be released at NAB. Furthermore, a personal source of mine who works for Apple confirmed that the Quad Cores were to be released in the Autumn. All the release dates have been pushed back due to hardware/software quirks that would not stick with the pro line users.... It is very possible that the meager 200mhz upgrade tomorrow is only to hold off Apple's demanding pro user base who are on their backs. Apple was supposed to beat AMD and Intel in annoucing dual core technology and soon after quad core to blow everybody away. Steve, after all, does have an ego.

But good things come to those who wait. I suggest waiting for WWDC in early June. And you shall see....

My $.02

Osarda - I was wondering if you'd come around again. You got me all excited about NAB then nothing happened I would have upgraded if Apple would have pulled off the Quad's that you mentioned before. Now it seems as if it will be a while. Better for me I guess. More value for the money I spent on my Dual 2Ghz a year and a half ago.

 

[Yvan256]

http://www.ehmac.ca/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=1564

lemme know what you think...or if the price is terribly out of line.

Price seems ok, I guess. But I'll still wait for the next iBook rev. if that's ok with you (1250$ for the current 12" iBook). Granted it's not the same specs (GPU, VRAM, RAM, HD, etc) but I won't be maxing it out anyway (40GB at most, 512MB, no BT, etc).

 

[osarda]

One never knows for sure...

Osarda - I was wondering if you'd come around again. You got me all excited about NAB then nothing happened I would have upgraded if Apple would have pulled off the Quad's that you mentioned before. Now it seems as if it will be a while. Better for me I guess. More value for the money I spent on my Dual 2Ghz a year and a half ago.

The NAB release was supposed to be and yet didn't happen. As you can imagine after expecting the inevitable myself, I was the first to ask my sources what had had happened.... And yes...supposedly...Apple did run into technical issues that made it impossible to release the dual cores at NAB. The rumor is that the 200mhz update is only to calm our nerves and I am quite sure we will all be impressed by what will be release at the WWDC in June. The Quad Cores will probably show up soon after the dual cores in a new super pro powermac line.

Definitely better days ahead.... Here is to crossing our fingers in June. My gut feeling is that the wait will be well worth it. I am just not sure about the people who will buy this supposed 2.7Ghz PM in the next few weeks. They might feel cheated if June turns out to be a knockout punch in the computer industry!

My $.02

 

[zedster]

they better do it soon

I have budget for 3 new machines and If I don't spend it soon I could lose it (as soon as upper management do a budget cut). However I'm not going to order a G5 until they are updated or apple announce their intentions. Why does apple insist on keeping us in the dark. Mr Jobs if you are reading this, why are you afraid of letting us know the road ahead? Microsoft has the balls to tell us that their new OS is years away, IBM have put there cards on the table when it comes to CPU's, but we have no idea whats due next week. Yes Tiger is the exception to the rule but only because you need developers to jump on board. Is someone going to beat you to putting a G6 on the shelf? NO. Oh and while I have your attention, lose the one button mouse!
z.

 

[PeterQVenkman]

Anyone suggest bluetooth mice?

I do mainly photoshop, 3d, multimedia and web work. My brother didn't like his bluetooth mice. He said they were jittery.

Anyone confirm/deny this? I'm looking to go totally wireless for my next mac. Should I do that, or just throw down the money on ram instead? MMMM.... Ram.....

I for one am excited. I cannot wait any longer. Thank merciful God. My iMac 800 is tired, and my w brand new Dell 17 LCDs are sitting here unused in anticipation ($220 each for the FP Ultrasharp line!)

 

[FlyNolJ]

No way.

The entire industry has hit a wall. I'm tired of hearing about the "we were promised 3GHz a year ago" thing.

What if the new PowerMacs (or at least the top ones) are dual-core, dual-CPUs? Will you people still be saying "bah, four cores but still not 3GHz, how lame"?

I wouldn't be! I just want a more significant upgrade because I am going to buy one and I want it to last another 5 years like my PM G4 Dual 450. =)

 

[SiliconAddict]

who cares, Intel is having equal troubles, nyah nyah x86!),

Um actually Intel just started shipping their dual core chips last week I think. AMD will be in about a month or two. (They are shipping their dual core opterons now.) Once again Apple is playing catchup. Big suprise there.

 

[le_coc]

I, for one, am planning on purchasing a Power Mac once the new ones are announced. My single processor Power Mac G4 500 has served my well for years now, but its getting long in the tooth and Tiger just isn't in its future. Basically, I'm looking to get the most bang for my buck here, which is why I've waited this long. Even if I'm only getting a small (really small) speedbump by waiting, the wait was worth it. Upgrading wasn't critical for me until Tiger saw the light of day. Well Tiger is here, so now its time to upgrade.

Me !! Buying new iMac 20" + new Powerbook 15" ? so I am waiting for the new iMac woth ordering my total order!

 

[matticus008]

I do mainly photoshop, 3d, multimedia and web work. My brother didn't like his bluetooth mice. He said they were jittery.

Anyone confirm/deny this? I'm looking to go totally wireless for my next mac. Should I do that, or just throw down the money on ram instead? MMMM.... Ram.....

I for one am excited. I cannot wait any longer. Thank merciful God. My iMac 800 is tired, and my w brand new Dell 17 LCDs are sitting here unused in anticipation ($220 each for the FP Ultrasharp line!)

I've found Bluetooth mice to vary greatly in quality and responsiveness. It's a similar story for the wireless USB ones (though I personally think the USB ones are more consistent). Even some corded optical mice are jittery. If you're really serious about going totally cordless, I'd still recommend a BT mouse, unless your Photoshop work involves fine drawing with the mouse (you really SHOULD use a tablet, but I know people who insist on using mice). A quality corded mouse for those times wouldn't be a significant investment (especially if you already have one with your current iMac). You should try it out yourself--you might find you personally don't need a corded mouse at all if you have good results. For everything except careful, fine, precise work, Bluetooth should get the job done. And it's got an undeniable cool factor (no base station or anything!).

 

[Gyroscope]

Again, don't be hasty in purchasing the new Powermacs that should come out tomorrow and which should have come out at NAB last week.

Apple did run into problems with the dual cores which were supposed to be released at NAB. Furthermore, a personal source of mine who works for Apple confirmed that the Quad Cores were to be released in the Autumn. All the release dates have been pushed back due to hardware/software quirks that would not stick with the pro line users.... It is very possible that the meager 200mhz upgrade tomorrow is only to hold off Apple's demanding pro user base who are on their backs. Apple was supposed to beat AMD and Intel in annoucing dual core technology and soon after quad core to blow everybody away. Steve, after all, does have an ego.

But good things come to those who wait. I suggest waiting for WWDC in early June. And you shall see....

My $.02

Dude you are full of !

 

[le_coc]

Tomorrow is my birthday. April 26th is the date at which the hardware updates were rumored to be released and this is awesome! BUT...I am getting a 20 inch imac with a gig of ram...the 2.0 g5 better be out tomorrow...its my birthday...it has to! No choice!

Happy Birthday ! My girlfriend also has brithday today! + new Apple Hardware + PSV is playing Champions Leage semi-finals (Football) it's a super day!

 

[nagromme]

the 200mhz update is only to calm our nerves

So what's the word on how that plan's working out?

j/k. Anyway, this certainly IS a stopgap release if things turn out as rumored. But to expect the next update just over a month later is too optimistic. I'm thinking August at the earliest.

 

[imz]

It's tuesday...

It's tuesday...so where are the new Macs??? And new iTunes Australia!!! And Tiger! *gasp* Can't wait...

Hopefully the new Macs come out soon...(early May the latest?). My credit card is ready...

 

[plastique45]

w00t! The top end might not be a huge upgrade (who cares, Intel is having equal troubles, nyah nyah x86!) (...)

Dual layer burners, as well.

Errr, Intel is up at 3.8GHz, they power PC's that cost 1/3 the price of an less powerful Mac, and they are now producing their dual core chips...

Oh yeah, and DVD+R DL has been around for over a year on the PC side.

Say what again?

 

[broken_keyboard]

Hey, where's the single low end model?

2.0 ghz?

I.

If there is no single at the low end, it might indicate that the new dual 2.0 is going to be very cheap.

 

[deanbo]

I Agree

OK, lemme put it THIS way... When I bought this TiBook G4/667 back in 2001, the leap from 500MHz on the 100MHz bus to 667MHz on the 133MHz bus was quite a leap after like a year of no updates. This was a 167MHz jump. Now does this 200MHz jump look so good? I don't think so... And to think we hated Motorola and thought IBM was our savior... -JB

This is pathetic. You might as well just take the current line up, slap more RAM and a dual layer DVD burner in it, and then call it an update.

 

[840quadra]

I bought my DP 2.0 at the beginning of Dec. I'm glad I made it this long before the update. I feel good about my purchase and it would have driven me nuts to wait unti now.

It should be a nice update for those planning to buy.

I would have been going nuts also. I bought my 2.0 on April fools day and I am glad that the new units are not too much of an increase, however it still sucks that the new units are not a big speed bump. Hopefully that will come later in the not to distant future for the power users out there.

840

 

[Subcoustic]

WOW! Fantastic I' fell that my money is going to stay firmly in my wallet!
Steve this not good enough full stop! whats yor sales pitch going to be ? faster than the common garden snail with a pentium 4 processor on it's back!
Maybe Steve should drop the name power Mac ?

 

[ShnikeJSB]

Steve Jobs

As you all can see, I am pissed about the recent hardware "problems" Apple has been faced with, but I REALLY gotta take a stand against all you people who keep referring to Steve Jobs as if you know the guy personally ("Steve this and Steve that"). First of all, the guy doesn't work miracles, nor does he make the hardware himself. If anything, he is the man who got Apple off its @$$ in the first place, and is a revolutionary and a genius. Mr. Jobs deserves probably SOME flack, but to solely place blame on him is absolutely ludicrous! Just had to clear that up... I guess I still have a lot of "Fanboy" in me... LOL! -JB

EDIT: Not to mention he is probably even more pissed off than we are about the whole situation... Hell, it's more HIS @$$ than ours...