Originally posted by Dr.Bimane
Here is my $0.02...
I use both macs and pcs and honestly find the "speed difference" negligible.
But here is the interesting thing. PCs are up to 2.5 GHz while Macs are now around 1 GHz. So when these SPEC benchmarks periocially come out, a PC should be 150% (2.5X) faster than a mac on the various tasks but this is NEVER the case. At most, the mac loses by 20% or even comes out faster, depending on if the test uses Altivec.
I read those test results where TechTV or whomever says, "Macs are crushed by PCs" but when you look at the results, it is a mere 20% margin at most. When your clock speed is 2.5X, I think that you should be ashamed to be only 20% faster. It is obvious that intel has found a way to scale up their MHz without really increasing real-world speed.
Does anyone know if this has been done?
I am willing to bet that it would not.
Originally posted by naumann
I bought a PowerMac dual 1 gigz on August 2nd. Luckily they hadn't shipped it yet, so they let me switch my order to the NEW dual 1 gigz.
So I got the new one with the Nvidia Ti, and 120 gig drive (the old one was going to have an 80 gig drive w/ the Nvidia Ti) for $600 less than I was going to pay for the old version. The dual processors are now way too good to pass up.
I did the same last night maybe they will let me have the new 1.25 since yesterday I paid for topline and today the 1.25 is topline. this is what I am hopiing for!
Originally posted by Dr.Bimane
Here is my $0.02...
I use both macs and pcs and honestly find the "speed difference" negligible.
But here is the interesting thing. PCs are up to 2.5 GHz while Macs are now around 1 GHz. So when these SPEC benchmarks periocially come out, a PC should be 150% (2.5X) faster than a mac on the various tasks but this is NEVER the case. At most, the mac loses by 20% or even comes out faster, depending on if the test uses Altivec.
I read those test results where TechTV or whomever says, "Macs are crushed by PCs" but when you look at the results, it is a mere 20% margin at most. When your clock speed is 2.5X, I think that you should be ashamed to be only 20% faster. It is obvious that intel has found a way to scale up their MHz without really increasing real-world speed.
But all this aside, will one be able to type a paper or report 3 times faster on a 3 GHz PC (when it becomes available) than on a 1 GHz PC? Oh, I bet you would be able to type up an e-mail and send it faster....give me a break.
Most people don't need or even use all the speed anyway.
Originally posted by Dr.Bimane
This would be an interesting test:
Take two computers by any PC company, say Dell.
Everything in both computers is identical except for the Intel chips: one is a P4 running at 2.5 GH and the other is a P4 running at 2.0 GHz. Will the faster chip do EVERYTHING 25% faster (as its clock speed would indicate)?
Does anyone know if this has been done?
I am willing to bet that it would not. I am sure it would be faster but only marginally so.....
Originally posted by soilchmst
I have seen processor speeds soar, but my 366 ibook performs about the same as the 1. something pc's. The difference is, that while pressenting a technical paper in Orlando, my computer did just fine with the PowerPoint, and the PC before me crashed, and had to use a slide projector. 😉
Originally posted by Shrek
I'm hoping that IBM brings even faster RAMBUS memory to the PowerPC platform! What do you think?
Originally posted by Ibjr
And yes using windows is a hellish nightmare, but until we see how these DDR macs perform a mac will not cut it for any professional use.
Originally posted by edvniow
Maybe, but I highly doubt Intel would let them.
Originally posted by ShaolinMiddleFinger
I just saw the pics on Apple's site and it looks like they had a shotgun frenzy on the back. If it cools the processor that way to make it quiet...i'm all for it. Besides, I'll barely see the back anyway.
My overall opinion....i''ll buy myself the dual 1Ghz with 1Gb Ram 120Gb HD and 17 inch display by Sept. 30.
Originally posted by soosy
I just read on macminute that it has NO FAN! wow. It should be nice and quiet... now the major vents in the front make more sense.
Originally posted by Shrek
Are you saying that Intel owns RDRAM technology?!?! 😱 😱 😱
err ever seen RDRAM tech on a N64 or PS2????
Originally posted by MacArtist
Here is a similarly specced DIY Athlon MP system :
2x$122-- Athlon MP 1600
$167-- Tyan S2460 Dual Athlon MP/ATX mboard
$111-- PC2700 DDR 512MB
$149-- ATI Radeon 9000 pro
$128-- Sound Blaster Live Platinum 5.1
$60-- Belkin 1394 firewire controller
$50-- D Link Gb Ethernet
$250-- Pioneer DVD-R drive
$113-- case
$20-- keyboard
$20-- mouse
$299-- Windows XP Pro
$84-- EIDE 80.0GB
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$1695
There are some other parts that are required to build this system from nothing so the price is approximate. prices pulled off of pricewatch
The Prices on the new PowerMacs aren't that outragious. After all, they are workstations, not your run-of-the-mill consumer PC. And I'd like you to price of a brand name Athlon MP or Intel Xeon workstation. The price will be very close.
Like another poster stated earlier, if you think the systems are too expensive, your not Apple's target market, and you don't have to buy one.
And those of you who are saying "I'm waiting till MWSF" I wouldn't get your hopes up. With a release this late in the year I'd be surprised to see a blow your socks off update until at least MWNY.