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So the old dual 1 GHz was 72% faster than a P4 2 GHz
And the new Dual 1.25 Ghz is 90% faster than a P4 2.53
(According to Apple's PS tests ;))
 
Anyone know if the display offer is still valid? The link that says "Dual Offer" gives me an error page. If they still offer the discount for the 17" display that may push me more towards the new dual 1Ghz and not the old one.

Though the dual 867 is tempting at the price. Too bad it does not have the superdrive. Though I can see why. If it did I would not even be thinking about the Dual 1ghz.
 
the thing's ugly... that doesn't matter much except that macs are usually the best looking machines.


if it's true ddr, sweet. but the system bus on the low end and the slower ddr makes it just slightly less attractive. still a powerful dual machine for pretty cheap though...
 
Originally posted by MacArtist


Just to let you know, the d1GHz and d1.25GHz now have the fastest true system bus at 167MHz. The XPs and P4 are at 133, XPs have 133x2 DDR and the P4 are at 133x4 RDRAM. If the new G4 is a true DDR implementation, unlike the Xserve hack, it'll be awsome.

How can we tell?.....anyone?
 
The venting on the front looks mad..... but check out the rear of the machine..... :p :p :p
 
...and I'm spent.

I'm going ot bed a very happy man! Mmm... dual 1.25 G4... *drool*
 
Redesigned from the inside out...

well, it's ugly from the outside, but it has a blue Motherboard ,)
 
Well, Apple is betting to the enclosure of course.

The best choice is the low end or mayyyyyyyyybe the dual 1Ghz.

What I'm really specting is the new line of flat panel displays.
 
This is BS..

Dual 1GHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 cache
& 1MB L3 cache/processor
167MHz System Bus
256MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM

Yea, sure apple, this photoshop test is optimized for the G4.

Why did they decrease the L3 cache to only 1MB ??

Wasn't the L3 cache very important for overall performance??

I don't think these specs amount to jack....

ALOHA!!
 
The new dual 1ghz are faster than the old dual 1ghz... and the 1.25 ghz is atleast 6 weeks away... I am going dual 1ghz!
 
There were rumors about the heat sink being a huge aluminum block inside the case...

Check out the "inside the new powermac" tour. It's enormous, and there is a big fan just to the side of it to bleed off heat.
 
By the way...

...Apple seems to completely go from Apple Garamond to Myriad...all the Headlines use Apple's new font :)
 
Re: By the way...

Originally posted by TheT
...Apple seems to completely go from Apple Garamond to Myriad...all the Headlines use Apple's new font :)

It's being happening for a while, although AG is still lurking.....;) I quite like Myriad, as a general rule, San-Serif fonts are much cleaner and more modern than serif fonts......

I'd have used Univers 55 and 65 bold personally... but each to their own.... :p

The Dual 1.25 certainly has the specs to be the Daddy..... if I was buying right at this time... I'd buy one.... ;)
 
anyone else notice?

Audio In is BACK!

expansion_calloutc08092002.gif
 
No more iMic :)

Yeah, it was a big mistake to take the Audio in away... at least they learn from their mistakes
 
Originally posted by Beej
So the old dual 1 GHz was 72% faster than a P4 2 GHz
And the new Dual 1.25 Ghz is 90% faster than a P4 2.53
(According to Apple's PS tests ;))

Yeah, Apple's PS tests are crap. When I see one of those up on the SPEC website then I'll take Apple's claims with more than a grain of salt. P4's will be up at 3GHz by the end of the year, Athlon is at 1.8 with Hammer coming soon. And Itanium2 has a slower clock but thoroughly spanks the G4 in FP. When are we going to get something that makes your heart beat fast again like when the IIfx or the Quadras were released.

I posted before about how those cases are booty and I still think they're booty. That drive bay is the ugliest thing I've seen in a long time. Even Sun's machines look better than that and that's saying a lot. If I were Mr. Ives, I'd hang my head in shame over those enclosures. He'd been doing such a great job with the portable line and the iMac line (after the whole iBook that looked like a toilet seat fiasco). Hell, bring back the enclosure from my NeXTcube Turbo. It's years and years old and looks better than that.

Okay, enough ranting. Anyway, I am very curious about the system bus implementation on these puppies. I'd love to see some benchmarks. I'll probably keep the iBook though and wait for the IBM chip.
 
Re: anyone else notice?

Originally posted by gropo
Audio In is BACK!

expansion_calloutc08092002.gif

And with that midi thing in the system utilities, they are starting to focus on musicians again
 
How to open 2 drives with 1 keyboard eject?

I've been bothered ever since they removed the eject key from the drives in the last powermac rev. I actually had a problem on a quicksilver where the drive wouldn't open even though nothing was in it! The drive even failed to show up in System Profiler!. It was extremely annoying 'cause I couldn't even boot off a system cd -- even using all the tricks to open the drive on startup wouldn't work. Running disk utility and fixing drive errors finally let the drive be recognized again. This was in 10.1.5.

Anyway... how do you think you'll control which optical drive to eject with one keyboard key?
 
Originally posted by MacArtist


Just to let you know, the d1GHz and d1.25GHz now have the fastest true system bus at 167MHz. The XPs and P4 are at 133, XPs have 133x2 DDR and the P4 are at 133x4 RDRAM. If the new G4 is a true DDR implementation, unlike the Xserve hack, it'll be awsome.

Big deal! these busses are only SDR and therefore they only provide 1.4Gb/s of throughput. All that fancy DDR Ram won't do much because their maximum 2.1Gb/s (266Mhz) and 2.7Gb/s (333Mhz) throughputs don't even get nearly saturated. If you check their website, only the dual 867Mhz and 1Ghz systems are immediately available, while the 1.25Ghz ones are available in 2 months!

I am definately disappointed--not so much in apple, but in motorola for being such f*cking retards. I mean, 7 frickin' months for a 20% speed increase? what kind of processes are they working on? .25micron? *sigh*
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
So, those are just vents on the front?
I was really hoping for front panel jacks for firewire at least...

and, i have to agree that screwing a piece of chrome to the front doesn't do ANYTHING for the looks... It's like screwing a chrome tip onto your car's exhaust, it just looks stupid. i can't believe that this design made it out the front door...

BUTm not to be all down, the specs are decent, i know we're always hoping for more, but I think it's technically a solid upgrade.
 
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