Is the one with the fish background posted by KK claiming it's an official render? Or is it a concept?
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New Renderings Show an 'iPhone 8' Design With Full-Front Display and Minimal Bezels All Around
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Front facing camera and sensors?
I just don't see the top part of the display have the ear peiece integrated. They'll be more of a bezel up top to accommodate the camera and sensors as usual.
As for TouchID, seems as if Apples fighting the same battle Samsung did with the S8, who had to concede at some point and slip it around to the back to meet deadline. Will the Note 8 get it or is it another year and the S9 for them?
Like it or not, I see the IPhone being close to the S8 in frontward looks.
I just don't see the top part of the display have the ear peiece integrated. They'll be more of a bezel up top to accommodate the camera and sensors as usual.
As for TouchID, seems as if Apples fighting the same battle Samsung did with the S8, who had to concede at some point and slip it around to the back to meet deadline. Will the Note 8 get it or is it another year and the S9 for them?
Like it or not, I see the IPhone being close to the S8 in frontward looks.
I find it suspect that the diagram uses both metric and imperial measurements, and varying number of significant digits. It looks like a mash up of previous rumours all thrown together, begging for validation, and doesn't offer any new information. I'd take it with a rather large grain of salt.
Agreed. I really hope we get something better than these recent rumors and renders. If not, it'll be really disappointing compared to the S8.
Just curious.
If you just rotate the cameras, wouldn't your view on the screen while holding the camera vertically consist of a cropped framing, and vice versa? Kind of like the view when you view a panorama picture since you are holding the phone upright while taking the picture?
Exactly!
I am actually quite surprised how quickly people forget what Apple is really known for. Known for taking it's "forever" time to try and arguably perfect something before giving it to costumers. And just like they have on the past, they would take their time to make the on screen touch ID work. One thing they will not do is, place it temporarily on the back to have it removed again the following year and put it on the screen. That is more Samsung like kind of strategy.
So how long does Apple struggle with the fingerprint censor before just releasing an iPhone 7s and pushing the 8 back to next year on cycle?
I don't have so much of an issue with the vertical camera, being it's going to produce the same results, it's just in a different location. I think the touch ID placement would be more of an annoyance than the vertical camera would be.
But if the vertical camera does exist, I would like to see it flush with the iPhone versus protruding. Then I think it would make it easier for others to except it's orientation on the iPhone.
I'm Chinese. All I can say is that KK is a thief and liar, who insisted there was a navy blue iPhone 7 model last year, even in September, just before iPhone 7 announcement. His predictions mostly are based on rumors from other people on supply chain and often be inaccurate. He made some fake models video last year and put them on Weibo and twitter to seduce more followers and it turns out that the model isn't real at all.
The cameras themselves wouldn't rotate, just the placement of them.
Also I'm pretty sure that the sensors are square anyway; I imagine it's just the software cropping photos one way or the other.
I wonder if the new placement would be better for 3D capabilities for AR etc
Amazing to think the original iPhone screen size was just 3.5 inches. The original Galaxy Note back in 2011 had a 5.3 inch screen, which was considered MASSIVE. Now the non-plus models will come with a 5.8 inch screen that's larger than current Note 5.7 inch screens. How times have changed!
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It looks a little weird to me but I could probably live with the design. If it makes the phone smaller without sacrificing screen size, it's probably a good tradeoff. Not crazy about a non-rectangular screen, from the standpoint of a developer and a user.
The vertical camera lineup doesn't bother me but moving the TouchID to the back would be a 100% deal-killer for me, I really hope they get that behind the screen reader tech working. That just sounds like an awful user experience.
The vertical camera lineup doesn't bother me but moving the TouchID to the back would be a 100% deal-killer for me, I really hope they get that behind the screen reader tech working. That just sounds like an awful user experience.
I think the purpose of the vertical camera to to finally end the disease known as VVS (Vertical Video Syndrome). My guess is that in addition to rotating the pair of lenses, the lens itself is also rotated 90 degrees.
Practically all regular users take videos in Portrait mode which is just a bad, bad idea. When you move the video to your TV it looks like a joke. That's why all first person video news reports look so silly and the networks have to add that moving background.
If the camera is landscape when you hold your phone in portrait mode, you solved that problem. The UI will need to indicate that but it shouldn't be too hard. Video will be shown in landscape but smaller during recording. People who used to shoot in landscape will be able to accommodate (It is definitely easier to hold the phone in portrait mode while filming).
Practically all regular users take videos in Portrait mode which is just a bad, bad idea. When you move the video to your TV it looks like a joke. That's why all first person video news reports look so silly and the networks have to add that moving background.
If the camera is landscape when you hold your phone in portrait mode, you solved that problem. The UI will need to indicate that but it shouldn't be too hard. Video will be shown in landscape but smaller during recording. People who used to shoot in landscape will be able to accommodate (It is definitely easier to hold the phone in portrait mode while filming).
This is starting to look like the real deal.. Not sure if I am "In love" with it, but it is better than some of the designs I've seen.
The camera might look odd to us right now, but in all honesty.. maybe people will finally learn to record videos in landscape. Nothing annoys me more than people shooting video in portrait
like seriously..
Also, I think I would be happy to settle for a phone the size of a 7 with the screen size of a Plus (Plus owner since the beginning) Im sure we will be spammed with dozens of mock ups in the MONTHS we have remaining though 
The camera might look odd to us right now, but in all honesty.. maybe people will finally learn to record videos in landscape. Nothing annoys me more than people shooting video in portrait
like seriously.. Also, I think I would be happy to settle for a phone the size of a 7 with the screen size of a Plus (Plus owner since the beginning
) Im sure we will be spammed with dozens of mock ups in the MONTHS we have remaining though To have a large display in a compact size its the real selling point,we are bored and uncomfortable to walk with those big phones like ip plus or s8+
The vertical camera is going to make perfect sense when paired with a headset and your phone in front of your eyes. Leaving the camera exposed for AR applications. Here the expanded width of the sensors is for better stereo separation and more natural 3D view.
Press the volume physical buttons to Snooze like you can now?
