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New Retina MacBook Appears in Early Unboxing Video

bean dip said:
Yeah. Hopefully this isn't legit because that keyboard is hot garbage.
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form over function though right?

I think that whole over-priced port-limp laptop is Apple's way of convincing people that thinner isn't necessarily better, so thay can come out next keynote and say, "we made the new model a little thicker so it'll work better for you!
 
First comes the rMB (retina Macbook) - 12" retina screen running OSX
Next comes the riPP (retina iPad Pro) - 12" retina touch screen running iOS

No one understands that we want the riPB (retina iPad Book) - 12" retina touch screen running OSX with keyboard dock.
 
shyam09 said:
First comes the rMB (retina Macbook) - 12" retina screen running OSX
Next comes the riPP (retina iPad Pro) - 12" retina touch screen running iOS

No one understands that we want the riPB (retina iPad Book) - 12" retina touch screen running OSX with keyboard dock.
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What for? If you want OS X + keyboard in an incredibly light device, the 12" MacBook does this for you. No point in building a Frankenstein's Monster of a device just because you can't choose between a laptop and a tablet, or face the idea of owning both.
 
Mildredop said:
Doubling down...

It looks thicker than I was expecting.
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I agree, but what's worse for me is that the Air now looks fat.

And my 15" Macbook Pro reminds me of my 17" PowerBook and all of it's 7 pounds of weight from yore.

I never liked the bezels on the air to be honest, and can't wait to see the 15" MBP get the 12" MacBook edge to edge screen and keyboard treatment.

ThunderSkunk said:
It is an iPad with a keyboard running OSX.
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Exactly, and I find that all to useful. I starting thinking about it that way when I saw the power adaptor. I just want to know if I can power this thing off of another computer's USB port or powered hub.

If we can, then we won't have to wait for Apple to make USB-C ACDs. We'd still need a dongle though.

oneMadRssn said:
Adding more insult, you need a dongle to connecting an iPad to this Macbook. That's right, you need to buy an Apple dongle to sync an Apple tablet to an Apple laptop.
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I haven't used a cable to sync my iPads and iPhones in ages. I just do it over WiFi.
 
Anyone now how this machine will work with an ilok? ilok.com - It's used for licencing of some software like protools. I hate the technique as it requires the physical dongle to be plugged in all the time.

But that's the way it's required to work... I guess we're looking for adapters to have a port for ilok, and a way to get power in, and the input from the sound processor that your mic / midi, etc is plugged into...

probabaly answered my own question - be better off getting a laptop with at least a couple ports -> air or mac pro
 
scott911 said:
anyone kown how this machine will work with an ilok? ilok.com - It's used for licencing of some software like protools. I hate the technique as it requires the physical domgle to be plugged in all the time.

But that's the way it'd required to work? I guess we're looking for adapters to have a port for ilok, and a way to get power in, and the input from the sound processor that your mic / midi, etc is plugged into...
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I think Avid is moving away from the dongle method of licensing . . . FINALLY!

Last I checked anyway, they were trying to mimic the licensing system Adobe uses and make the entire thing cloud based. It's that way for Media Composer, and there was buzz about ProTools moving in that direction as well.



p.s. Would you really want to run ProTools on something like this?
 
LordVic said:
if you're pluggin in USB-A, you should be fine with a hub attached to the USB-c adapter. So you will need 2 devices to do such. the USB-C to USB-A adapter, then if you want more than 1 device, a USB hub.


I'm trying to see if there are any USB-C hubs yet, but haven't found any.
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Heh, my USB 3 hub is USB A. %-)
 
I get the thinness, I get the single USB port, but I don't get the weird keyboard.. it looks like a kid's netbook.
 
ThunderSkunk said:
If you have a sizable iTunes library, or heaven forbid you have a decent camera, the drivespace gets exhausted pretty quickly on these little notebooks. ...iCloud isn't going to back up tens of gigs of your RAW or DNG files, just little jpgs, and odds are you're not going to score a connection to the net everywhere you go anyway to stream everything, since this is a Mobile Computer, and not a desktop, making it pretty crippled.

So yes, now we're driving not only the computer, but a second spinning HD unit over usb, burning up the battery that much faster. Many HD's won't even run when on battery power or attached to a hub, or even without their own power supply. HD's are that energy thirsty.

All this no ports wireless stuff looks slick in commercials, but the amount of drivespace & wifi bandwidth available in the machines hasn't increased proportionately to make it feasible yet.
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If your main use for the computer was editing your RAW files, you really wouldn't go for this computer. You'd likely go for a top spec MacBook Air or a MacBook Pro. This laptop is literally built for web browsing and HD video playback, I don't think Apple are even trying to claim it would be ideal for anything else.
 
dexterbell said:
Wow that looks cheap, not like a $1300 Macbook. I need a laptop and already returned the new rMBP 13 because of the awful GPU performance, there is no rMBP 15 update for a good 6 months and this looks like a toy. Guess I'll be buying a new Windows laptop for the first time in nearly 10 years. Need to get your ***** together Apple.
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What were you expecting with iGPU on the rMBP 13? Apple's have never been really good for games. I've resigned myself to buying a rMBP for my work, but built a PC for games. In reality, Apple at least bothers to try to put Intel's best GPU in their chips, while the vast majority of PC laptop makers cut corners and put the lower end Intel GPU to save some money.
 
Looks likea gorgeous machine. Good size. Personally I need a 15 inch, but I can appreciate this box for the average user who wants a better screen in a small form factor. The 13 inch retina is probably a better choice for most users, but if you want something small with a great screen this looks perfect. Love the full sized keyboard. Why cut down the keyboard. Makes no sense. Does the average user really need more than one port with everything moving to the cloud? That's what the pro machines are for seems to me.
 
ThunderSkunk said:
By the time kids are in high school, they've shot more photos and video and have more music and movies than these puny drives can hold. In your mind, this warrants everyone buying MBPs? A notebook with no method for expansion whatsoever is a toy.
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And all of that data will be stored in the cloud w/ super fast cellular connections for when it's actually needed. The future is not about having 500TB hard drives in your laptop.
 
Pass through power

BUT since USB C can handle higher voltage, couldn't your externally powered hard drive pass along charge to the MB?

Shouldn't everything that is externally powered and USB C? I plug in my printer, desktop hard drive, etc and receive a charge...
 
I just have to accept Apple laptops being disposable (recyclable) computers. Once the battery balloons (5 years) and destroys the chassis it won't be worth fixing.

BTW, I would have stolen a gold one.
 
weston.b said:
BUT since USB C can handle higher voltage, couldn't your externally powered hard drive pass along charge to the MB?

Shouldn't everything that is externally powered and USB C? I plug in my printer, desktop hard drive, etc and receive a charge...
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What about USB drives that get their power from the laptop to function?

2.5" based drives do not require additional power other than that provided by USB.

So if you were attempting to use a USB-C based small drive while on the road, you would not also be able to plug in your laptop. Unless the USB device had 2 USB ports on it, one to accept power from a power brick and one to connect to the MB.

this seems, odd to me.

For stationary peripherals like displays and docking stations, then yes, this is likely the foreseeable option.

the better option however would be just to include 2 usb-c ports on the MB.
 
slagathor001 said:
1000% sure there's no magsafe system? Doesn't make sense for them to get rid of it!

I like the design of the computer. The second gen more expensive version of the macbook (which will probably come out next year) will be a great computer.

Apple made the first one with just one USB-C port so that when the second one comes out an has 2 it'll sell a whole lot more
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I think it does make sense since they've merged data and power. You probably know that you can corrupt a file system if OS X doesn't handle the ejection. They had to make it a little more resistant to accidental unplugs. The socket itself doesn't look overly deep or fiddly, so I'd guess they're banking on heavy tugs to just pull it out. Also, "you're using it wrong", because this is for cloud access.

Also, I think they HAD to put only one C port on it because, well, people would be "confused" as to which one was for power. Of course Apple could handle on the hardware side any odd combination, but that's not what Apple is about. Apple's is about a decision-free, no-friction experience.

For this device, you are supposed to use WiFi and cellular and cloud services. If you want more, you're introducing friction, and so there's the current Air lineup for you - no retina of course. I do wish they had put another C port on there, but I'm going to buy it anyway as my travel machine. Normal stuff plus touch-up work including 60K line XCode compiling, 1GB file size Photoshop and Illustrator files, PDF and PowerPoint assembly. Obviously it won't multitask all that stuff, but it's 2lbs., small enough for airline action, and looks to have a lovely screen.
 
Technarchy said:
The new 10" Surface is capable of this and starts at $499
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It's not nearly as powerful since it's using Intel Atom x7. In fact, the x7 is less powerful than the A8X in the iPad Air 2:

Geekbench 3 (64 bit)

A8X (3 cores): 1808/4529 (single/multi)
x7-Z8700 (4 cores): 990/3451
Core M-5Y51 (2 cores): 2044/4475
Core M-5Y71 (2 cores): 2767/4856
 
ThunderSkunk said:
Still not seeing how a single port is sensible.

Since these things have such limited drivespace and aren't upgradable, that pretty much guarantees the need for an external drive. ...and having to choose between having your drive plugged in or your charger sucks.

I liked getting to hear Vietnamese spoken. And I liked the keyboard. :p
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usb-c is going to have lots of hubs that charge/video-out/etc. If you need a bigger drive and cannot use online storage, yeah don't get it. For me I want the portability.
 
LordVic said:
What about USB drives that get their power from the laptop to function?

2.5" based drives do not require additional power other than that provided by USB.

So if you were attempting to use a USB-C based small drive while on the road, you would not also be able to plug in your laptop. Unless the USB device had 2 USB ports on it, one to accept power from a power brick and one to connect to the MB.

this seems, odd to me.

For stationary peripherals like displays and docking stations, then yes, this is likely the foreseeable option.

the better option however would be just to include 2 usb-c ports on the MB.
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I agree! The portable externals wont charge it but I'm thinking now when I plug in to my TV or monitor via USB C the battery also tops off.. Would be pretty cool to have that VS plugging into HDMI AND a power cord for a movie/presentation.
 
weston.b said:
BUT since USB C can handle higher voltage, couldn't your externally powered hard drive pass along charge to the MB?

Shouldn't everything that is externally powered and USB C? I plug in my printer, desktop hard drive, etc and receive a charge...
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Including a 29 watt power supply in usb device would add to the cost of the device. The purpose of USB C is not to add cost and add complexity.
 
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