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The 7 looks like an impending dumpster fire and for the first time since the iPhone's introduction it seems we are headed to a pointless release. With all the rumors of what the "iPhone 8" will include it seems the 7 will be a very mediocre upgrade if an upgrade at all. Combine this with the flurry of bad press Apple has received as of late and we're looking at the worst year in the post Steve Jobs era.

Get it together, AAPL.
 
The 7 looks like an impending dumpster fire and for the first time since the iPhone's introduction it seems we are headed to a pointless release. With all the rumors of what the "iPhone 8" will include it seems the 7 will be a very mediocre upgrade if an upgrade at all. Combine this with the flurry of bad press Apple has received as of late and we're looking at the worst year in the post Steve Jobs era.

Get it together, AAPL.
They seem to have been coasting the last couple of years or so. Just look at their computer lineup.
Being complacent and lazy like that will catch up with them (guess it's already starting to).
 
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If all it is is a dual camera and processor bump, that's not going to be enough to get a lot of people to upgrade. We need something here Apple work with us so we hand over the money!
 
But with the next iPhone, nobody is forcing a customer to buy it if they want to use their old headphones -- they will still sell the 6, 6s & SE. Giving them a free adapter in the box, when they will most likely give them a free Lightning pair of earbuds, is only encouraging the continued use of their old equipment, which does nothing for creating demand, improvements, innovation, and price drops for wireless and digital sound. And that ultimately perpetuates the use of adapters and costs customers better more affordable future options.

"Dear Customer, if you want a camera upgrade to your iPhone 6s, you would have to adjust your Audio listening habits as well, as we now force a new way down your thr..., ah, we meant introducing lightning audio, in the hope to create future demand. You would have to buy a 29 USD adapter (Mac128: but it will be *ONLY* 19 USD [\completely missing the point]) as well for now, but we are confident that with our move we will force improvements upon the lazy audio industry (and ignorant customers, who have had the choice between a 3.5 mm connection, BT and even Lightning Connectors already for years).

Stick with us for a transition period of a couple of years of slight inconvenience and financial burdens when hopefully a new industry standard which is simple, reliable, practical, cheap - and which ideally requires no external charging or power, will have been adapted worldwide, so you can connect your headsets with every phone, home audio equipment, PCs, Airplanes Entertainment systems, etc. (Wait, don't we have already something similar?).

And if not, then we have at least filled our pockets with millions of adapters sold. And with the removal of the 3.5 mm jack and saving 184++ cubic mm space, we are finally able to introduce the Continuum Transfunctioner*.

Because in part what's motivating them to remove it at this juncture is free up over 184 cubic mm of internal space presently occupied by the redundant 3.5mm single purpose jack.

Apple is trying to reclaim over 240 cubic mm of space inside the phone from a redundant port that only provides one function.

Please enjoy your new U2 Album, brought to you by us, the forward thinking and visionary company. Find it in your music selection on your 16 GB iPhone 7 - mastered in 192 kHz. - and also your 21" iMac, spinning with 5400 rpm"


Hah, and I always thought new technologies should be able to convince with its future set because their advantages are self evident to the industry making it worthwhile for development and customers likewise. So no need to kill off an existing technology to force the development of maybe something better. And so far I have yet to see something in your lengthy postings, which I would consider better as a whole compared to what is available.

Your proposals sound like the removals of wheels to replace them with squared aluminium blocks in order to force development of anti gravity devices.

What I find ironic, that you feel it is a pain in the b... to connect a phone to 2 sockets in your car, but proposing a continuous use of adapters literally everywhere else, is acceptable to you.

Hilarious.


*Explanation:
The continuum transfunctioner is a very mysterious and powerful device and its mystery is exceeded only by its power.
 
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The point I was making was in reference to the comment that the move to eliminate the headphone jack as we know it "is a solution looking for a problem."

And when Apple ditches the 3.5mm headphone jack, it will inconvenience consumers who want to keep using headphones they own with the new iPhone, but that is no different than the switch that occurred when cars became mainstream and people no longer needed all the things they had accumulated to own and use a horse.

Consumers will still be able to use their headphones with a 3.5mm jack as long as they keep one of their older iPhones, iPads or iPods or laptop or desktop computer.

And should this shift occur, it will drive the creation of solutions for enabling consumers to use their old headphones with the new iPhones with things like a Bluetooth adapter you can plug your headphones into converting them into wireless wired headphones.

I totally understand the desire of humans and most animals to not change, because change is hard, but that is exactly why it takes a certain kind of person or company to force, or if that word is too strong, to entice, people to change.

That's how Ford did it with the Model A and the demise of using horse and buggy as our typical form of personal transportation and how jet travel supplanted ocean and most train travel.

Yes, you can still own and ride a horse, and take an ocean cruise or cross countries in a train, in the same way you will be able to use your old headphones even when there is no jack included on the new, at some point, iPhone.

It's not about change being hard. It's about there not being a compelling reason to change. This isn't like the move from a horse to superior technology. Or moving from floppy drives to CD-ROMs. Or removing CD-ROMs when home internet speeds ramped up. In each of those cases it was a superior technology forcing the change.

If Apple wants to 'entice' people to change, there should be a clear value proposition for why consumers should want to change. Granted Apple hasn't even confirmed they are removing it. But if it's for something as trivial as thinness, something as disingenuous as superior audio sound or trying to encourage a wireless technology that's already available, there is going to be grumbling.

There is nothing that Apple has done under Tim Cook that leads me to believe this is anything but a simple money grab. Who isn't betting on a whole line of 'lightning enabled Beats being available on the release date.

Wireless is getting better. But anybody who's had a set of BT headsets go dead on a plane or a run knows the downside. And having to juggle an adapter or multiple headsets isn't making anybody's life easier.
 
They seem to have been coasting the last couple of years or so. Just look at their computer lineup.
Being complacent and lazy like that will catch up with them (guess it's already starting to).
The Apple Faithful were made to wait nearly three years _longer_ than Android users before contemporary 4.7" and 5.5" displays were offered. That profit taking period was justified repeatedly as Apple and their worshippers claimed larger displays weren't in demand.

Yet the very moment the iPhone 6 series was released, hoards of iPhone buyers flocked to Apple's stores and online to buy them. Starving for a modern size iPhone the worshippers admitted they enjoyed the size. Suddenly Apple flip flopped, bragging how strong sales were.

Only two criterion must be met to motivate Apple. The feature must garner headlines world wide, and such feature must fatten Apple's coffers.
 
Apple is highly attuned to its customers. The iPhone sells no matter how it's equipped. The less Apple improves the more profitable the phone is. That's why Apple is the king of profit.
It's exactly that thinking from Apple that is already eroding sales from them. More young people around me preffer the Surface tablets as opossed iPads because they can do more and cost less. The *Apple magic* is wearing off and they better have something impressive down the line because even though I love my iPad, my relationship to my iPhone is much more "meh". Android has become much more atractive and thats probably the road Im heading. Apple can right the ship but will they adapt? Time will tell.
 
What makes Bluetooth a pain is when you have multiple devices within range and there is no good way to connect to the right one. You can turn off Bluetooth to disconnect easily, but it's real fun when you have to go into settings to connect to the right device all the time.
I do this all the time with my Bluetooth headphones and connecting it back and forth between the Apple tv, iPhone and iPad. Its really easy. The pros far outweigh the cons.
 
Apple still deciding what to do with iPhone 7
Prototypes are there. And if iPhone 7 is similar to 6S. They're in trouble.
 
It's not about change being hard. It's about there not being a compelling reason to change. This isn't like the move from a horse to superior technology. Or moving from floppy drives to CD-ROMs. Or removing CD-ROMs when home internet speeds ramped up. In each of those cases it was a superior technology forcing the change.

If Apple wants to 'entice' people to change, there should be a clear value proposition for why consumers should want to change. Granted Apple hasn't even confirmed they are removing it. But if it's for something as trivial as thinness, something as disingenuous as superior audio sound or trying to encourage a wireless technology that's already available, there is going to be grumbling.

There is nothing that Apple has done under Tim Cook that leads me to believe this is anything but a simple money grab. Who isn't betting on a whole line of 'lightning enabled Beats being available on the release date.

Wireless is getting better. But anybody who's had a set of BT headsets go dead on a plane or a run knows the downside. And having to juggle an adapter or multiple headsets isn't making anybody's life easier.

You've noted it in your response - Apple hasn't confirmed anything at this point and of course they will "sell" people on why moving to a different connector, should that happen, is worth the change. Just like moving from horse to car, or floppy to cd, there were a lot of people who complained and said they didn't need or want to change. And it is all about change being difficult for people. We are absolutely creatures of habit and even when there may be other reasons that use to justify not wanting to change, it's all about our perception of giving up something known for something unknown.
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"Dear Customer, if you want a camera upgrade to your iPhone 6s, you would have to adjust your Audio listening habits as well, as we now force a new way down your thr..., ah, we meant introducing lightning audio, in the hope to create future demand. You would have to buy a 29 USD adapter (Mac128: but it will be *ONLY* 19 USD [\completely missing the point]) as well for now, but we are confident that with our move we will force improvements upon the lazy audio industry (and ignorant customers, who have had the choice between a 3.5 mm connection, BT and even Lightning Connectors already for years).

Stick with us for a transition period of a couple of years of slight inconvenience and financial burdens when hopefully a new industry standard which is simple, reliable, practical, cheap - and which ideally requires no external charging or power, will have been adapted worldwide, so you can connect your headsets with every phone, home audio equipment, PCs, Airplanes Entertainment systems, etc. (Wait, don't we have already something similar?).

And if not, then we have at least filled our pockets with millions of adapters sold. And with the removal of the 3.5 mm jack and saving 184++ cubic mm space, we are finally able to introduce the Continuum Transfunctioner*.





Please enjoy your new U2 Album, brought to you by us, the forward thinking and visionary company. Find it in your music selection on your 16 GB iPhone 7 - mastered in 192 kHz. - and also your 21" iMac, spinning with 5400 rpm"


Hah, and I always thought new technologies should be able to convince with its future set because their advantages are self evident to the industry making it worthwhile for development and customers likewise. So no need to kill off an existing technology to force the development of maybe something better. And so far I have yet to see something in your lengthy postings, which I would consider better as a whole compared to what is available.

Your proposals sound like the removals of wheels to replace them with squared aluminium blocks in order to force development of anti gravity devices.

What I find ironic, that you feel it is a pain in the b... to connect a phone to 2 sockets in your car, but proposing a continuous use of adapters literally everywhere else, is acceptable to you.

Hilarious.


*Explanation:
The continuum transfunctioner is a very mysterious and powerful device and its mystery is exceeded only by its power.

Just to add my two cents here, the idea that one old technology, the 3.5mm plug, can continue living on while a new technology is developed is and has already been at play. Between Bluetooth and Airplay and even USB, 30pin and Lightning connection, the need to plug in headphones or speakers using a 3.5mm plug has been a legacy technology who's time has come to fade away.

I would actually argue that the reason we're still using 3.5mm plugs is not that they're the best thing, but that companies currently making products that use them are too lazy or simply afraid to change. Yes, BT has had to improve over the years, to make it usable for high-definition sound, but it actually has moved forward and will continue to do so, as has wifi and other streaming options. But the 3.5mm plug has effectively lived on with no real change or improvement. Perhaps it is at the pinnacle of what is possible with a mechanical connection, but in the world of digital and wireless, it's long past the time to move forward, IMHO.
 
You've noted it in your response - Apple hasn't confirmed anything at this point and of course they will "sell" people on why moving to a different connector, should that happen, is worth the change. Just like moving from horse to car, or floppy to cd, there were a lot of people who complained and said they didn't need or want to change. And it is all about change being difficult for people. We are absolutely creatures of habit and even when there may be other reasons that use to justify not wanting to change, it's all about our perception of giving up something known for something unknown.
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Just to add my two cents here, the idea that one old technology, the 3.5mm plug, can continue living on while a new technology is developed is and has already been at play. Between Bluetooth and Airplay and even USB, 30pin and Lightning connection, the need to plug in headphones or speakers using a 3.5mm plug has been a legacy technology who's time has come to fade away.

I would actually argue that the reason we're still using 3.5mm plugs is not that they're the best thing, but that companies currently making products that use them are too lazy or simply afraid to change. Yes, BT has had to improve over the years, to make it usable for high-definition sound, but it actually has moved forward and will continue to do so, as has wifi and other streaming options. But the 3.5mm plug has effectively lived on with no real change or improvement. Perhaps it is at the pinnacle of what is possible with a mechanical connection, but in the world of digital and wireless, it's long past the time to move forward, IMHO.

Again, saying they don't want or need to change to a better technology is one thing. That's fearing change for change.

It's on Apple to show us why a new technology is better/different to the point we are compelled to change. I have yet to hear even one rumored change of why this is 'better' for consumers in the long run. Saying you're willing to give up a feature for no apparent reason other than to show you embrace change is no different than lemmings running off a cliff because that's what they are supposed to do.

I'll keep an open mind to what their pitch is going to be. But so far I haven't heard any compelling rumor that giving up a 3.5 jack for something else makes sense. If and when a bluetooth connection gets better in quality and battery life - maybe. But even then it's suggesting a world full of adapters and/or multiple headsets.
 
I'll keep an open mind to what their pitch is going to be. But so far I haven't heard any compelling rumor that giving up a 3.5 jack for something else makes sense. If and when a bluetooth connection gets better in quality and battery life - maybe. But even then it's suggesting a world full of adapters and/or multiple headsets.

We all know how much Apple hates adapters and their profit margins
 
It's exactly that thinking from Apple that is already eroding sales from them. More young people around me preffer the Surface tablets as opossed iPads because they can do more and cost less. The *Apple magic* is wearing off and they better have something impressive down the line because even though I love my iPad, my relationship to my iPhone is much more "meh". Android has become much more atractive and thats probably the road Im heading. Apple can right the ship but will they adapt? Time will tell.
And I recently bought a 9.7" iPad Pro and Apple Pencil and am enjoying them very much. I like that the iPad doesn't try to hard to emulate a PC in the conventional sense. I don't see myself using the Surface tablet either for these very reasons. Different strokes for different people. If Apple tweaks the iPad to suit you, this might mean losing me as a customer as the iPad then loses what attracted me in the first place.

Apple can't appeal to everyone, nor should they. If you find that Apple products are no longer for you, that might speak more about your changing needs rather than any failing on Apple's part. After all, their 20% iPhone market share means that for every 1 person who uses an iPhone, there are 4 others who opt not to. Does this mean the iPhone is a failure?

If you find that you prefer Android products now, then by all means switch to the platform that better suits your needs. I personally find it amusing how some people make themselves out to be so important, like Apple is somehow doomed if it doesn't get your patronage.
 
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Keyboard would be the least of it. Top 3 uses of it would be:

Charging through a magnetic inductive charger.
Charging a battery pack, much slimmer and ergonomic without having to attached to the Lightning port.
Passing digital audio into a case with a built-in 3.5mm jack.
I like these ideas, but particularly the last one. If the phone is ridiculously thin and they allow such a case this would be a compromise I would be willing to make. A much larger battery AND my beloved 3.5mm port. Bring it.
 
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