New Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Commercial Attacks Apple for iPhone 6 Plus

[H2SO4]

I'll point out three things:

1. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/12/google-started-over-on-android-the-day-the-iphone-launched/

2. If you consider those the true pioneering smartphones, despite the fact that they never took off in terms of sales, lacked the large multi-touch screen that I not only just mentioned but are characteristic of any and every smartphone today, any resemblance in a functional desktop-class operating system, or any real ease of use at all, then I'm not going to sit here and argue with a wall. Those phones might as well be next to the definition of forgettable in the dictionary. The fact is, I think you're wrong, you're welcome to reciprocate. I couldn't care less.

3. If you can legitimately say you hate people because of their brand loyalty or preference, then out of us two, I think it's safe to say you have bigger issues than either of us do with my preference for Apple. If you mean this figuratively, then you might want to crack a thesaurus and find a lighter word to throw around. The fact of the matter is it's hypocritical for Samsung to vilify Apple for copying something they didn't originate when Samsung has pretty much built everything there phones are known for on what Apple started (see 1, or just search the entirety of the internet). That's not fanboyism, it's fact. If you don't think so (and if you actually think they copy well) then there is a judge and a multi-billion dollar settlement that says otherwise. Great artists steal, and Samsung is anything but. They have a design philosophy I just don't agree with: "Let's shoehorn the **** out of everything we can into our products so we can claim to have gotten there first, even if it's quarter-assed completely useless attempt that adds nothing our company but the ability to come up with these clever ads that in no way advertise the merit of our own hardware, but rather spend millions in air time trying to knock Apple down a peg, because why the **** not?"

I also must have missed the part where I said Apple was above anything. In fact, I'm pretty sure what I said was that Apple won't do anything because they're not going to dignify it with a response, because that **** ass excuse for an ad isn't worthy of a wet fart...but I'm you know what happens when we assume things.

Go back and look at what you said;
claiming to have originated the idea of mobile phones with screens far larger than the norm. Dignify it with a response, LOL. Typically Apple don’t do that. It’s probably little to do with dignity.
Of course that kind of thing was the original smartphone, what are you drinking? Regardless of interface, it was a device that you could do some computing browse the web/emails and make calls. Are you going to say that the first car wasn’t one because it doesn’t closley enough resemble todays models?
Microsoft make a habit of posting about flaws and security exploits. Apple don’t. Same thing, nothing to do with dignity.
It's hypocritical for Apple to vilify anybody for copying something they didn't originate most things.
We’ll agree to disagree.
Again, I‘ve a multitude of Apple products, and have bought for and converted many family members to the Mac/iOS. They like it, so do I. They are not blinded by what Apple tells them or have double standards when Appple are just as guilty. But you guys, you guys……….

 

[kerrikins]

You can tell how successful Samsung's ads are by how much butt hurt you see here from these threads.

I don't really think Apple fans complaining is a sign of success. People deciding to purchase Samsung phones would be a sign of success, and that is yet to be seen.

 

[69Mustang]

These Samsung adds calling Apple copycats are really petty. It's becoming very apparent just how threatening Apple's products are to that company. These adds are the classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. Hypocracy at it's finest. The iPhone 3G, released July 11, 2008 was a follow up to Apple's revolutionary design. Almost two years later Samsung released the Galaxy S. Need I say more? It is almost a replica down to the minutia. Look at that phone icon! Way to be creative Samsung! Pff. Amateurs. 

Please update your photos. These are doctored and a misrepresentation of facts that are easily obtained in a cursory google search. I do believe Samsung copied the trade dress of the iphone with the GSII. I just wouldn't use fake images to back my assertion.

You can do better.

 

[phpmaven]

The only similarity is the size of the screen, period. And Apple has not made that big of a deal about the size of these new phones. They haven't tried to act like having bigger screens was something revolutionary or something they thought of.

 

[AppleScruff1]

I wasn't particularly impressed the first time I saw it. It looked complicated and bulky. The second time around though, I thought, 'hmm, that's actually quite nice, and it's simpler than I initially thought'.

The issue I have with it is the battery life. I also wish they offered a 'sleep band' with it, for <$50. Essentially, it's nice that it can track my daytime activity, but how about night time? I spend more than a third of the day in bed, and the quality of sleep that I have is just as important to the quality of life I enjoy.

Third, I wish they had a low power mode. i.e. once it reaches a particular point, it can turn off all of those added tracking/radio-based features to become a dumb watch that displays time for up to a week, or longer.

It is certainly worth checking out when it is released and I will take a close look at it. But I'm not so enamored at this point that I'm counting time until it's released. I won't know until I see it. I also know Apple and they'll leave enough off of Version 1 that Version 2 will be a big improvement.

 

[alirz]

No need to be childish .. We have to give them that..Apple was really against big screens a while back..

 

[JPSaltzman]

Well, like it or not, it's true. As far as big-form smart phones, it's clearly Samsung 1, Apple 0. I recently needed AAA to fix a flat tire on my car. What did the AAA tow driver use? A huge (to me, an iPhone 5S user) Samsung phone. With a stylus that actually worked! When DirecTV came to upgrade my system to HD, what did the rep use? Another huge Samsung phone with a stylus that captured my signature more accurately than any stylus for the iPhone has ever attempted.

Sorry, Apple is playing catchup now. Just admit it. (And yes, all my iDevices are from Apple, as are my computers.)

 

[simbashen]

Apple is more broad of a company than Samsung?

Samsung doesn't just make consumer electronics - they also make dishwashers, fridges, washers, dryers, stoves, ranges, etc.

if anything Samsung is more broad of a company

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did you buy Apple products when they were making fun of Windows during the "I'm a Mac" ads?

samsung might be a "broader" company than apple, but samsung's various "small" actions in the past just make their company "smaller" in reputation. I believe that android phone is a good competition to the iPhone, but man I just hate samsung as a company...

 

[Squid7085]

Honestly this ad might end up helping Apple more. Samsung is basically saying "Yeah, we had it first and you had to put up with it, but now Apple has a larger phone that can quench your thirst for a larger phone, thanks for a few years!"

 

[APlotdevice]

Did they really just call handwriting recognition... a feature that's been pushed since the earliest PDAs... "innovative"? Sure I imagine it works better than earlier implementations, but evolutionary is not the same as revolutionary.

And yes, they're basically advertising that the note's biggest selling point no longer exists.

 

[Retryc]

Samsung Copy

Nuff said...

Image

Industrial espionage works.

 

[AppLovr]

Cool story accept that so much of it is false I don't even know where to begin. Spend less time on Apple forums and spend more time with your device of choice. It's easier. We all know you just got here in Sept 2014 to troll.

Can't defend it?

 

[Waragainstsleep]

Well, like it or not, it's true. As far as big-form smart phones, it's clearly Samsung 1, Apple 0. I recently needed AAA to fix a flat tire on my car. What did the AAA tow driver use? A huge (to me, an iPhone 5S user) Samsung phone. With a stylus that actually worked! When DirecTV came to upgrade my system to HD, what did the rep use? Another huge Samsung phone with a stylus that captured my signature more accurately than any stylus for the iPhone has ever attempted.

Sorry, Apple is playing catchup now. Just admit it. (And yes, all my iDevices are from Apple, as are my computers.)

Apple did the stylus donkeys years ago. If they don't work with the iPhone its because the iPhone isn't designed to have a stylus because people lose them. I bet if you talk to AAAs local office they go through styluses by the bucket full.

 

[cnxyz]

I am an Apple enthusiast but hardcore (stock) Android user (Nexus 5/7), and I am ashamed by this ad.

Samsung offers the worst possible Android experience. They need to just branch off and leave us alone...

 

[Medic311]

samsung might be a "broader" company than apple, but samsung's various "small" actions in the past just make their company "smaller" in reputation. I believe that android phone is a good competition to the iPhone, but man I just hate samsung as a company...

what the heck are you talking about

the guy said Apple is a broader company. i corrected him. you decided to quote my correction and say they are smaller in reputation and that you personally hate Samsung

this is definition trolling

 

[kerrikins]

Well, like it or not, it's true. As far as big-form smart phones, it's clearly Samsung 1, Apple 0. I recently needed AAA to fix a flat tire on my car. What did the AAA tow driver use? A huge (to me, an iPhone 5S user) Samsung phone. With a stylus that actually worked! When DirecTV came to upgrade my system to HD, what did the rep use? Another huge Samsung phone with a stylus that captured my signature more accurately than any stylus for the iPhone has ever attempted.

Sorry, Apple is playing catchup now. Just admit it. (And yes, all my iDevices are from Apple, as are my computers.)

I'm not sure how citing two business-specific uses for a stylus is a good representation of the idea that Apple is playing catch up.

I mean, I myself think that Apple needs to step up its game in terms of specs and such but your examples aren't really effective because to the average consumer they're not relevant.

 

[clibinarius]

UH, Apple made fun of platform differences not a specific company. There is a difference. The I'm a Mac campaigns NEVER ONCE mentioned another company.

If Microsoft isn't a company...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExBrBJdX310

 

[AppLovr]

Put your agenda aside for just a sec. Pay attention now.

No credit card data is ever transmitted by Apple Pay.
A single-used token is generated, and after the transaction is done, the token is useless.
Your credit card number is never stored in the clear on iPhone 6 or 6+.
It's encrypted and stored in the Secure Element on the A8 SoC.
And that Secure Element can't be taken out of the iPhone and decrypted.
Not even Apple can access the contents of the Secure Element.
It only works with the one CPU that was paired with it during assembly.
Touch ID adds even more security and convenience on top of all of that.

The token system will be used by American Express, Mastercard, and Visa.
It's that good. It could eliminate the most serious "data breaches."
And yes, those data breaches are scaring consumers. Good news for Apple.
Especially with Apple Watch on the horizon. Uses the same tokenization technology.
Try that with your Moto "270."

But hey, if all of that information doesn't line up with your agenda, then sorry.
We do, however, appreciate that you are adding to Macrumors.com web traffic.
More traffic is better, because it allows Macrumors to earn more from their ads.
And that's a good thing for all of us Apple fans here.
Way to go, man.

That's how all NFC works. Just rehashing the keynote? They all include a secure element. That's the standard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication

Here you go. I did the heavy lifting for you.

I have no agenda.

 

[brdeveloper]

Why does MacRumors post these stories? They're just giving them free advertising at this point. I understand the stories about the actual products of Apple's competition, but why post the attack ads? What kind of good discussion is going to come from this article? Who seriously thinks that this article is a valuable contribution to this site?

I think it is. I love the Note series AND I love Macs. But I can't see any reason to migrate to the iOS world. It's just boring. You always get some hardware improvement later when dealing with iPhones.

"Now with GPS" -- when Nokia provided offline Maps a couple of years before.
"Now with a barometer" -- when Samsung provided a barometer 3 years before
"Now with Wi-Fi AP" -- when Nokia offered the same years before

Ok, Apple launched TouchID... what an exciting feature

I really wanted having a good reason for my next phone being an iPhone. Sadly, it won't be this year. It's basically a bigger and faster iPhone 5. No, thanks.

 

[Quu]

This reaction from Samsung shows that they are afraid of losing mindshare.

 

[CL4W]

So wait, Samsung invented the larger screen? You dont invent something like that, you simply make the screen bigger...

 

[rkoshack]

Is samsung expecting people to be impressed by some random peoples tweets?

 

[cmaier]

I think it is. I love the Note series AND I love Macs. But I can't see any reason to migrate to the iOS world. It's just boring. You always get some hardware improvement later when dealing with iPhones.

"Now with GPS" -- when Nokia provided offline Maps a couple of years before.
"Now with a barometer" -- when Samsung provided a barometer 3 years before
"Now with Wi-Fi AP" -- when Nokia offered the same years before

Ok, Apple launched TouchID... what an exciting feature

I really wanted having a good reason for my next phone being an iPhone. Sadly, it won't be this year. It's basically a bigger and faster iPhone 5. No, thanks.

There's more to a phone than the specs. There's how it integrates into your life and how it integrates with your other devices.

 

[Adam Lect]

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[electronics1201]

I am a huge Apple fan. I drink the Apple flavored koolaid since I got my first iPhone in 2007. I remember using the iPhone for the first time in an AT&T store model, and I have to say my jaw dropped to the floor. I was absolutely stunned that a device could be so incredible.

I really can't express in words how wonderful it was, I must have played with that very first iPhone display model for 30 minutes. I became embarrassed because I literally couldn't stop myself from grinning. I've always been a fan of science fiction, and that kind of smartphone felt like one of the futuristic devices I had always wanted. I was NOT an Apple fan at the time, but that moment of pure magic converted me in a heartbeat, it was literally that fast. The device was truly breathtaking compared to other smartphones at the time. I HAD to have it and I've bought pretty much all Apple products since then, and it's all because of that very first iPhone.

I have never gotten that primal feeling of "this is magic!" from a Samsung device. Sure, they've been cool at times. I was very impressed with the Samsung Galaxy Note II the very first time I saw it. But they've never really given me a moment of stunning clarity where I felt like I had witnessed the future. Samsung, as a company, is absolutely amazing at delivering good chips. They make the most innovative NAND memory and SSD's as well as some gorgeous displays. Technically, without digging in to it, the Galaxy S5 is very impressive. On paper.

But the "soul" of the phone just isn't there. It is very obvious to me that when I use a samsung phone, I am using a product developed by 9-5 engineers who don't get attached to any particular product or company. They don't really care or obsess over getting every tiniest detail, such as perfecting UI response time to a certain number of milliseconds. These engineers look at consumer polling data and focus groups to decide what kinds of phones to make. They don't make a device of their own personal taste.

Samsung is good at delivering a certain spec of performance for a specific price. When you buy a Samsung display or a Samsung SSD, you can be absolutely sure that you will be getting the best specs and great reliability, far ahead of the competition. That is why I always buy samsung displays and SSD's. But a smartphone is different. A smartphone is such a personal device, a computer, that it really takes someone who is truly obsessed over every TINIEST detail to make it right. It's like a painting, you have to painstakingly sculpt the hardware and the software to work together perfectly, you can't just make add a new "skin" on top of an existing OS and call it "innovation".

I like Samsung, but they don't have the level of imagination required to make an amazing smartphone. Their smartphones are impressive on paper, and they have good specs. But the UI is horrifying and the features are so gimmicky and useless that I cannot imagine myself ever buying a Samsung smartphone. If it were up to Samsung to make the very first modern smartphone back in 2007 instead of Apple, I think we all know that they would have built a good device with good specs and then crippled it by putting Windows Mobile on it. Unlike hardware, software requires a level of abstract artistry that Samsung just doesn't possess, their culture doesn't allow such obsessive levels of creativity.

This guy. Good stuff