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New Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Commercial Attacks Apple for iPhone 6 Plus

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I never understand why people like you are on these forums. I don't go trolling on Android forums...
Maybe they are Samsung employees and this is their job.


samsung have done that to htc in taiwan before.... samsung hired "writers" to write good reviews for samsung phones and bad reviews for htc phones
 
Yep samsung. That one was all you. You popularized phones that don't fit in people's pockets. You popularized phones that are as big as some users heads. The credit is all yours. I wish they had released an iphone 6 that wasn't so big. The 5s is really the limit of comfortable size for me.
 
I am a huge Apple fan. I drink the Apple flavored koolaid since I got my first iPhone in 2007. I remember using the iPhone for the first time in an AT&T store model, and I have to say my jaw dropped to the floor. I was absolutely stunned that a device could be so incredible.

I really can't express in words how wonderful it was, I must have played with that very first iPhone display model for 30 minutes. I became embarrassed because I literally couldn't stop myself from grinning. I've always been a fan of science fiction, and that kind of smartphone felt like one of the futuristic devices I had always wanted. I was NOT an Apple fan at the time, but that moment of pure magic converted me in a heartbeat, it was literally that fast. The device was truly breathtaking compared to other smartphones at the time. I HAD to have it and I've bought pretty much all Apple products since then, and it's all because of that very first iPhone.

I have never gotten that primal feeling of "this is magic!" from a Samsung device. Sure, they've been cool at times. I was very impressed with the Samsung Galaxy Note II the very first time I saw it. But they've never really given me a moment of stunning clarity where I felt like I had witnessed the future. Samsung, as a company, is absolutely amazing at delivering good chips. They make the most innovative NAND memory and SSD's as well as some gorgeous displays. Technically, without digging in to it, the Galaxy S5 is very impressive. On paper.

But the "soul" of the phone just isn't there. It is very obvious to me that when I use a samsung phone, I am using a product developed by 9-5 engineers who don't get attached to any particular product or company. They don't really care or obsess over getting every tiniest detail, such as perfecting UI response time to a certain number of milliseconds. These engineers look at consumer polling data and focus groups to decide what kinds of phones to make. They don't make a device of their own personal taste.

Samsung is good at delivering a certain spec of performance for a specific price. When you buy a Samsung display or a Samsung SSD, you can be absolutely sure that you will be getting the best specs and great reliability, far ahead of the competition. That is why I always buy samsung displays and SSD's. But a smartphone is different. A smartphone is such a personal device, a computer, that it really takes someone who is truly obsessed over every TINIEST detail to make it right. It's like a painting, you have to painstakingly sculpt the hardware and the software to work together perfectly, you can't just make add a new "skin" on top of an existing OS and call it "innovation".

I like Samsung, but they don't have the level of imagination required to make an amazing smartphone. Their smartphones are impressive on paper, and they have good specs. But the UI is horrifying and the features are so gimmicky and useless that I cannot imagine myself ever buying a Samsung smartphone. If it were up to Samsung to make the very first modern smartphone back in 2007 instead of Apple, I think we all know that they would have built a good device with good specs and then crippled it by putting Windows Mobile on it. Unlike hardware, software requires a level of abstract artistry that Samsung just doesn't possess, their culture doesn't allow such obsessive levels of creativity.
 
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cmaier said:
Agreed. I have to check my blood pressure every day, and I'd love a way to do it passively. Don;t know if it's possible to do, though.
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I don't know if it's possible either. You'd think that if there was a way to do it without the inflating cuff, Dr's offices, hospitals, etc would use it. It would be huge to be able to BP and glucose passively.
 
H2SO4 said:
The truth is you sound like a blind fanboy.
I had a Sony Ericsson P800, P910 and Nokia Communicator, (of which theer were quite a few variations long before the iPhone was invented. Even if Nokia and Ericsson were not have been first, Apple were almost last.
Before anybody goes off about the Newton, I had a Psion Organiser too.

I love Apple products but boy am I starting to hate their followers. Especially teh ones who go on about Samsung copying, Samsungs ads, (I’m a Mac/I’m a PC were very petty too). Apple have been there and done that. In fact there is another thing that Samsung has copied well from Apple. How to copy well.
Apple don’t respond because on the whole that is their MO, not because they are above all that - do some research man, or woman.
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I'll point out three things:

1. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/12/google-started-over-on-android-the-day-the-iphone-launched/

2. If you consider those the true pioneering smartphones, despite the fact that they never took off in terms of sales, lacked the large multi-touch screen that I not only just mentioned but are characteristic of any and every smartphone today, any resemblance in a functional desktop-class operating system, or any real ease of use at all, then I'm not going to sit here and argue with a wall. Those phones might as well be next to the definition of forgettable in the dictionary. The fact is, I think you're wrong, you're welcome to reciprocate. I couldn't care less.

3. If you can legitimately say you hate people because of their brand loyalty or preference, then out of us two, I think it's safe to say you have bigger issues than either of us do with my preference for Apple. If you mean this figuratively, then you might want to crack a thesaurus and find a lighter word to throw around. The fact of the matter is it's hypocritical for Samsung to vilify Apple for copying something they didn't originate when Samsung has pretty much built everything there phones are known for on what Apple started (see 1, or just search the entirety of the internet). That's not fanboyism, it's fact. If you don't think so (and if you actually think they copy well) then there is a judge and a multi-billion dollar settlement that says otherwise. Great artists steal, and Samsung is anything but. They have a design philosophy I just don't agree with: "Let's shoehorn the **** out of everything we can into our products so we can claim to have gotten there first, even if it's quarter-assed completely useless attempt that adds nothing our company but the ability to come up with these clever ads that in no way advertise the merit of our own hardware, but rather spend millions in air time trying to knock Apple down a peg, because why the **** not?"

I also must have missed the part where I said Apple was above anything. In fact, I'm pretty sure what I said was that Apple won't do anything because they're not going to dignify it with a response, because that **** ass excuse for an ad isn't worthy of a wet fart...but I'm you know what happens when we assume things.
 
Mashurrab said:
But honestly, I will never buy something from SAMSUNG because I feel that they base their marketing on insult. I am not going to pay my cash to anyone who insults me or others:mad:
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yes because apple doesn't insult your intelligence when they tell you a 4 inch screen is "common sense" one day and that a bigger screen is better the next?


or when they say they are successfully re-inventing the way people pay because unlike previous attempts by other people "they are not concerned with personal gain but rather are focused on the consumer"; yet the whole system only works with an iPhone? - using a technology that's been around for years? And with the majority of smartphone users using Android they think they'll establish a new worldwide norm for payments?


ya...
 
eggersj said:
Blah blah blah... Samsung can pull these stupid ads all they want... Apple got my money for the 6 plus, and I'm very excited to get it... I hope I don't miss the stylus too much... ;)
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I see few people with notes, but honestly I have never seen someone using the stylus. You want miss it;)
 
AppLovr said:
Another way Apple manipulates statistics for their gain:

... Fast forward to the iPad. Steve Jobs said it was to fill the gap between phone and computer. It was never counted into Apple's marketshare of computers because, welll, it was a tablet. Then, when it suited Apple, they said a year later that OSX marketshare was top in the world. But, that is simply not true. Even if you did count all Apple "OSX" devices, it still doesn't come on top of Android. But, if you watch closely, they compare all OSX devices to just Microsoft PCs. So they took mobile statistics, and then started a comparison to all Windows PCs. How clever. And the media ate it up.
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Uh, slow down bud. You got some revisionist history going there. That article you mentioned was in no way affiliated with Apple. That was some jackass manipulating stats to further his narrative. Apple had nothing to do with those shenanigans. I remember that article well. That guy shut down the comment section on his article because people, especially Apple fans, were handing him his ass in hat for fudging numbers when he didn't even have to do it. That guy seemed like a fanboi who got a little too caught up, but that had nothing to do with Apple and their marketing.
 
Well since Samsung's "innovative" phones with the handwriting recognition use a stylus perhaps they are better compared the Apple Newton. When was that released again? Oh yes, 1993.

Screen size would be about right for that comparison too wouldn't it?
 
Mashurrab said:
Samsung is not a competitor of apple. Samsung competes with one or few products with apple products. Apple is much wider, much broad company than Samsung. I believe if it was not for that parts that apple is purchasing from Samsung. We would not hear about them.
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Apple is more broad of a company than Samsung?

Samsung doesn't just make consumer electronics - they also make dishwashers, fridges, washers, dryers, stoves, ranges, etc.

if anything Samsung is more broad of a company

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Mashurrab said:
But honestly, I will never buy something from SAMSUNG because I feel that they base their marketing on insult. I am not going to pay my cash to anyone who insults me or others:mad:
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did you buy Apple products when they were making fun of Windows during the "I'm a Mac" ads?
 
I've liked Samsung's subtle jabs at Apple in the past, but this ad screams of a desperate last gasp to spoil the thrill of what was the major point of differentiation that Samsung/Android phones have had over the past 2-3 years - screen size for those who want a bigger screen.

Techies will still love Android's openness, but the vast majority of people want something that's easy to use and just works. Not 4,000 home screens, convoluted software updates, bloat ware, etc. RIP Samsung Mobile 2009-2014;):apple:
 
AppLovr said:
[blah blah]

Credit card via iTunes? Verses the credit cards through Google, Microsoft, Blackberry? What are you saying?

[blah blah]
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Put your agenda aside for just a sec. Pay attention now.

No credit card data is ever transmitted by Apple Pay.
A single-used token is generated, and after the transaction is done, the token is useless.
Your credit card number is never stored in the clear on iPhone 6 or 6+.
It's encrypted and stored in the Secure Element on the A8 SoC.
And that Secure Element can't be taken out of the iPhone and decrypted.
Not even Apple can access the contents of the Secure Element.
It only works with the one CPU that was paired with it during assembly.
Touch ID adds even more security and convenience on top of all of that.

The token system will be used by American Express, Mastercard, and Visa.
It's that good. It could eliminate the most serious "data breaches."
And yes, those data breaches are scaring consumers. Good news for Apple.
Especially with Apple Watch on the horizon. Uses the same tokenization technology.
Try that with your Moto "270."

But hey, if all of that information doesn't line up with your agenda, then sorry.
We do, however, appreciate that you are adding to Macrumors.com web traffic.
More traffic is better, because it allows Macrumors to earn more from their ads.
And that's a good thing for all of us Apple fans here.
Way to go, man.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I wasn't blown away by the :apple:Watch, but I certainly will check it out when it is released. I hope that they will be able to monitor blood pressure and glucose on future models.
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I wasn't particularly impressed the first time I saw it. It looked complicated and bulky. The second time around though, I thought, 'hmm, that's actually quite nice, and it's simpler than I initially thought'.

The issue I have with it is the battery life. I also wish they offered a 'sleep band' with it, for <$50. Essentially, it's nice that it can track my daytime activity, but how about night time? I spend more than a third of the day in bed, and the quality of sleep that I have is just as important to the quality of life I enjoy.

Third, I wish they had a low power mode. i.e. once it reaches a particular point, it can turn off all of those added tracking/radio-based features to become a dumb watch that displays time for up to a week, or longer.
 
You can tell how successful Samsung's ads are by how much butt hurt you see here from these threads.
 
AxoNeuron said:
I am a huge Apple fan. I drink the Apple flavored koolaid since I got my first iPhone in 2007. I remember using the iPhone for the first time in an AT&T store model, and I have to say my jaw dropped to the floor. I was absolutely stunned that a device could be so incredible.

I really can't express in words how wonderful it was, I must have played with that very first iPhone display model for 30 minutes. I became embarrassed because I literally couldn't stop myself from grinning. I've always been a fan of science fiction, and that kind of smartphone felt like one of the futuristic devices I had always wanted. I was NOT an Apple fan at the time, but that moment of pure magic converted me in a heartbeat, it was literally that fast. The device was truly breathtaking compared to other smartphones at the time. I HAD to have it and I've bought pretty much all Apple products since then, and it's all because of that very first iPhone.

I have never gotten that primal feeling of "this is magic!" from a Samsung device. Sure, they've been cool at times. I was very impressed with the Samsung Galaxy Note II the very first time I saw it. But they've never really given me a moment of stunning clarity where I felt like I had witnessed the future. Samsung, as a company, is absolutely amazing at delivering good chips. They make the most innovative NAND memory and SSD's as well as some gorgeous displays. Technically, without digging in to it, the Galaxy S5 is very impressive. On paper.

But the "soul" of the phone just isn't there. It is very obvious to me that when I use a samsung phone, I am using a product developed by 9-5 engineers who don't get attached to any particular product or company. They don't really care or obsess over getting every tiniest detail, such as perfecting UI response time to a certain number of milliseconds. These engineers look at consumer polling data and focus groups to decide what kinds of phones to make. They don't make a device of their own personal taste.

Samsung is good at delivering a certain spec of performance for a specific price. When you buy a Samsung display or a Samsung SSD, you can be absolutely sure that you will be getting the best specs and great reliability, far ahead of the competition. That is why I always buy samsung displays and SSD's. But a smartphone is different. A smartphone is such a personal device, a computer, that it really takes someone who is truly obsessed over every TINIEST detail to make it right. It's like a painting, you have to painstakingly sculpt the hardware and the software to work together perfectly, you can't just make add a new "skin" on top of an existing OS and call it "innovation".

I like Samsung, but they don't have the level of imagination required to make an amazing smartphone. Their smartphones are impressive on paper, and they have good specs. But the UI is horrifying and the features are so gimmicky and useless that I cannot imagine myself ever buying a Samsung smartphone. If it were up to Samsung to make the very first modern smartphone back in 2007 instead of Apple, I think we all know that they would have built a good device with good specs and then crippled it by putting Windows Mobile on it. Unlike hardware, software requires a level of abstract artistry that Samsung just doesn't possess, their culture doesn't allow such obsessive levels of creativity.
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obamtl said:
Third, I wish they had a low power mode. i.e. once it reaches a particular point, it can turn off all of those added tracking/radio-based features to become a dumb watch that displays time for up to a week, or longer.
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It's really intended to be used as an accessory to the iPhone. So in that week you'd have your iPhone with you to provide you the time, presumably.
 
Rogifan said:
Samsung wasn't the first one to make large screen phones. HTC Evo was first.
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If I was a fanboy, this would be the point where I would use the Apple meme: Yeah we weren't the first to make a smartphone, but we definitely made the market.

Since I am not a fanboy, I will simply say it's a fair statement to say the phablet market is what it is largely due to Samsung.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Thanks for the link. And that was from 3 years ago. I wonder why it's still not widely known or used?
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Maybe it didn't work so well. Even my real arm cuff monitor does a crappy job of measuring my diastolic pressure. Still, I'd guess that, given all the medical folks Apple hired, if it can be done they'll get it done.
 
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