Never said they invented a smartphone/palmtop or whatever with a stylus either, I am saying why do people keep insisting that someone copied someone else. Samsung definitely wasn't the first, neither was Apple, although they came up with something way before Samsung. But still, stop with the oh company AAAA has been doing this since 2012, but company yyyyy just came out with it, so they are copying them! Seriously, anyone posting something like that is obviously a 13 year old child who doesn't know that computers existed before they were born.
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Never said they invented a smartphone/palmtop or whatever with a stylus either, I am saying why do people keep insisting that someone copied someone else. Samsung definitely wasn't the first, neither was Apple, although they came up with something way before Samsung. But still, stop with the oh company AAAA has been doing this since 2012, but company yyyyy just came out with it, so they are copying them! Seriously, anyone posting something like that is obviously a 13 year old child who doesn't know that computers existed before they were born.
I understand, but being that you will use your pointer finger vs. your thumb it makes sense to angle it towards the back(sorta like the back buttons on lg g2/3)
Any perceived offence is your own.
Cyanogenmod is free, so this made me chuckle.
Oooh, I had no idea Apple was coming out with a new phone. Thanks Samsung for letting me know! Ordering one right now!
I agree, but my very original reply was to a post that said that samsung should apologize to apple that they stole the fingerprint idea. To which I said that apple should first apologize to Motorola, the true pioneer in smart phone fingerprint sensors.
All companies should not do that to other companies, they all should just focus only on their products. Doesn't matter how big a company is, its bad advertising.
I don't think so, I think a rocket falling to earth is a more catastrophic event than an iPhone being dropped from a couple of feet from the ground. less mass, less distance to drop.
....including Apple, which was the first company to manufacture and sell them. The world didn't begin in 2007 but the smartphone revolution did.
I totally agree. And understand very well why Samsung creates an ad like this.
Almost every single review of phablets has called the large screens useless, way too big and pointless for years. Then the 6+ arrives - and like magic (or reality distortion field) the large screen is suddenly something great and useful - and this is often in reviews at the same sites that did nothing but ridicule large screen phones a couple of years earlier.
Samsung (and others) found a market and went for it - while Apple at the same time insisted that small screens were not only the best, but also that large screens and stylus use was stupid.
I would not be surprised if Apple delivers a tablet or large phone the next few years that incorporates stylus as a part of the package. And then it will suddenly be super-useful and innovative.
And? Doesn't matter a jot if your UX (touchwiz) is a big pile of steaming slop.
Negative campaigning works. Every politician since the dawn of time knows this. Life is not some Victorian debate club and has no place for chivalry. It's tough, rough and nasty. The strongest, loudest and the most willing usually wins. Steel up - paper thin ego's are not good.
Samsung are doing Apple a massive favour, they give them loads of publicity.
Apple are very clever by not doing the same, during Apple adverts the viewer is never reminded of the competition. It also makes Samsung look a bit desperate, and desperation is not a good selling point
Apple are very clever by not doing the same, during Apple adverts the viewer is never reminded of the competition. It also makes Samsung look a bit desperate, and desperation is not a good selling point
Negative campaigning isn't stopping people lining up to buy iPhones. I talked to a friend of mine that works at a local T Mobile store and what they told me is that they are only getting requests for iPhones, Android phone sales have almost completely stopped at their location and T Mobile is a big Samsung reseller and they were one of the last holdouts for selling iPhones, so this negative campaigning doesn't always work.
Yep. Read Phablet reviews before and after iPhone 6 Plus. For example:
2012 Note 2: "It’s still too big for a smartphone … After testing it over the past week and a half, the awkwardness that came with carrying such a large, “notice me” phone outweighed the benefits of it, for me."
2014 iPhone 6+: "Maybe I’m getting old, and my eyes are getting worse. Or maybe I’m stuck in Apple’s reality-distortion field (help). But something strange happened this week. I started to like a phablet."
- Recode via WSJ
Fingerprint sensors had been used on handhelds for years. The first major smartphone that I remember having one was the Toshiba G900 (which also had a retina screen), announced at almost the same time as the original iPhone in early 2007. Its sensor could be programmed to launch a different app for each finger, and/or could be used for scrolling as well.
The smartphone market was well under way when Apple jumped in to take advantage of everyone else's years of foundation laying, same as they are doing now with NFC payments.
As you can see, sales really took off only after Android came out.
Apple has the ability to make unpopular technology popular. Samsung doesn't. And just because Samsung had something like a large phone first doesn't really mean much. So what? There were quite a few tablets before the iPad, too, but none of them were popular. That means the product failed even if they were the first (or one of the first) to bring that type of product to market.
The same thing with smart watches. Samsung has come out many different models of smart watches in the last year, and they won't make smart watches popular. Ive yet to see a single person in public wearing a Samsung smart watch. I bet Ill see quite a few with Apple Watches. I rarely see people with Samsung tablets. Samsung's best thing going for them is they satisfy the need of the anti-Apple types, and they can mass produce a ton of different products with lots of marketing. But they aren't here creating some technology that becomes super popular.
There were fingerprint scanners on phones and other electronics before Touch ID. But none of them could turn that into a mass market technology that people really like. Same with NFC. NFC isn't an Apple invention. But Apple is going to make NFC popular to use. I've never seen someone pay for something with NFC using an Android phone.
Android, and the iPhone operate on completely two different business models. Android is just another finger in Google's advertising sales strategy. Since they rely on the collection of personal data to better target ads, cell phones are a near perfect way to accomplish that goal. They don't make hardly any money from Android itself. They make money on skimming the data generated by these devices, and then using that data to sell ads. I doubt they really care all that much which brand of phone people use which is why they have to make iOS apps. Apple doesn't make apps for other phones. These companies only make apps for competing devices when its in their financial best interested to do. So like iTunes. iOS devices wouldn't see nearly as well if you had to have a Mac to use iTunes. Theres zero financial incentive for Apple making apps for Android since their business model doesn't revolve around advertising.
Last, world wide total smart phone sales is dominated by Android. Most of those are Asia only brands and cheap western phones. I can go to Walmart, and buy an Android phone in a blister pack for less than $100, and have a few options. I don't care in the least about those type of devices. And I doubt those people buying them are bringing that much after the sale revenue to Google, and theres probably not very much profit in a phone at that price range. Its not like the world is dominated by high end Android phones that compete with iPhones. The two biggest markets by population, India & China, are too poor to be buying high end phones on the same per capita basis as Western nations. Its a lot easier to sell ~$100 phones there, and Apple doesn't compete against those devices except in a roundabout kind of way.
Apple has the ability to tell people what to think. Samsung doesn't. Steve Jobs tried to convince everyone that styli were worthless, but those of us that can actually think for ourselves have always known better. And now look at Apple playing catchup. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when will Apple tablets and phablets have a built-in stylus.
Samsung could have a problem of its own with gapgate.
"According to South Korean publication IT Today, some Galaxy Note 4 users have noticed a space between the phones frame and the display panel, both on the top/bottom or on the sides, posting images with business cards inserted in those gaps. The report also says that two pieces of A4 paper fit inside the gaps.
Its not clear how widespread the issue is, considering that Samsungs South Korean Galaxy Note 4 launch day sales amounted to around 30,000 units, or all available stock Samsung had on hand, but apparently the company is aware of the issue."
https://news.yahoo.com/gapgate-sams...lYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQzM18x
"According to South Korean publication IT Today, some Galaxy Note 4 users have noticed a space between the phones frame and the display panel, both on the top/bottom or on the sides, posting images with business cards inserted in those gaps. The report also says that two pieces of A4 paper fit inside the gaps.
Its not clear how widespread the issue is, considering that Samsungs South Korean Galaxy Note 4 launch day sales amounted to around 30,000 units, or all available stock Samsung had on hand, but apparently the company is aware of the issue."
https://news.yahoo.com/gapgate-sams...lYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQzM18x
