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Maybe oneday, oneday Samsung can thank Apple for revolutionizing the smartphone industry and putting billions in everyone's pocket!!
 
Maybe oneday, oneday Samsung can thank Apple for revolutionizing the smartphone industry and putting billions in everyone's pocket!!

What an obtuse comment. The iPhone wasn't created in a bubble. Millions upon millions of dollars in research and building out an infrastructure came before Apple entered the market. Built by Motorola, Samsung, Nokia, and others.

I swear - it's like people think the world began in 2007.
 
What an obtuse comment. The iPhone wasn't created in a bubble. Millions upon millions of dollars in research and building out an infrastructure came before Apple entered the market. Built by Motorola, Samsung, Nokia, and others.

I swear - it's like people think the world began in 2007.


I think it's pretty widely accepted that the iPhone revolutionized the smartphone industry. It sent MS, Google back to the drawing board to catch up. Blackberry was smug and felt infallible and look where they are now in terms of sales. Just look at the Jobs' keynote slide of what "smartphones" looked like up until the iPhone.
 
I think it's pretty widely accepted that the iPhone revolutionized the smartphone industry. It sent MS, Google back to the drawing board to catch up. Blackberry was smug and felt infallible and look where they are now in terms of sales. Just look at the Jobs' keynote slide of what "smartphones" looked like up until the iPhone.

None of what you wrote negates what I wrote.

I really don't think any company needs to thank Apple. If thanking is going to be "done" it would be a mutual thanking from all parties involved.

The poster I replied to clearly believes otherwise based on his comment.
 
What features are you looking for?

I've posted them in the past. Wireless or inductive charging would be nice, as would water resistance, prolonged battery life... basically features that the rest of the smartphone market is now getting or has had for a while. I bought a 4S because, at the time, it was advanced and everyone else was catching up to Apple. But now I see others are surpassing them. I can't switch brand though since I love the amount of integration iOS and OSX share. But I'm not seeing much to make me part with £700!

128gb was a step in the right direction. That was on my list of features I really wanted to see.
 
I love the idea that samsung keeps on throwing big on advertising, and doing it for other company too, like apple. :rolleyes:
 
What an obtuse comment. The iPhone wasn't created in a bubble. Millions upon millions of dollars in research and building out an infrastructure came before Apple entered the market. Built by Motorola, Samsung, Nokia, and others.

I swear - it's like people think the world began in 2007.

How so?, before the iPhone where was touch phone /smart phone technology? Yes maybe there was millions and millions of research and building of infrastructure being done behind the scenes that happened before Apple BUT Apple saw this and introduced it to the world before the others. Everyone steals from each other, ideas and various things, its the company / person that makes it available first that gets the credit. So in 100 years when you look at some digital archive to read up on the history of cell phones I'm sure it will say that Apple introduced it to the world.
 
Oh, but they did. Quite early too - it was available in stores before summer 2011:

The Motorola ATRIX is the first smartphone to operate using fingerprint recognition to ensure it can only be accessed by the genuine owner.

Review from May 23rd 2011:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/motorola-atrix-930919/review

That's not what I said. I said, Samsung didn't put one on there phones until iPhone had it. I have no doubt Motorla did it first. They just did it poorly, so no one copied them. I think you need a longer attention span.
 
What an obtuse comment. The iPhone wasn't created in a bubble. Millions upon millions of dollars in research and building out an infrastructure came before Apple entered the market. Built by Motorola, Samsung, Nokia, and others.

I swear - it's like people think the world began in 2007.

And no of course the world of phones didn't begin in 2007 DUH!! I had plenty of phones prior to getting an iPhone, the point is Apple showed everyone a new phone...
 
And no of course the world of phones didn't begin in 2007 DUH!! I had plenty of phones prior to getting an iPhone, the point is Apple showed everyone a new phone...

Oh - here I thought you were saying that Samsung should be bowing at the Apple alter...
 
Apple might not have invented the walled garden, but they certainly have made it better. They've been very successful at turning off tinkerers like me.
 
The difference is that when Apple talks about numbers or gimicky features of competition, they typically are talking about Android phones/tablets in general, not specific brands.

If you like android, stick with it. If not, switch.

As I said I have no Android device. You seem to agree with me except you have a problem when a competitor is specifically mentioned by name. When Apple was running the Mac vs PC ads, you were ok with it just because Apple didn't specifically say "Windows". If thats how you like it fine, but everyone knows Apple was not talking about Linux or DOS.

Here's another point, Samsung KNOWS their phones no longer have a competitive advantage and they have to rely on Google to make Android competitive enough to take on Apple which isn't happening. This is why they are now desperate and they are very threatened they will lose their very own Android customers tomApple this time around.

Here is a link of people making fun of Samsung's larger devices to refresh your memory:
http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-thedoghousediaries-apple-watch-618561.png

Samsung is a huge company and they make money even from Apple iphone's because they manufacture some equipment that goes in that product AFAIK. They make money from selling S4's AND iphones. They are not worried:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324682204578513882349940500



How is it working when they have been losing sales and profits for I believe four straight qtrs?

I meant the strategy in marketing generally speaking not in the specific case of Samsung vs Apple. If you can bring real facts and numbers against your competitors why not? Suppose PS4 advertise that their hardware is faster more capable than Wii U(for example) Do you see that as lame advertising?
 
lamest company ever

... I would fire their ad team if I was CEO at Samsung. I have to say I was tempted to try a "round of Samsung" a few weeks back, but these ads after the Apple keynote were the total turn-off. Ordering two iPhones for our company next week. Done and that will see us through nicely to iPhone7.
 
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As I said I have no Android device. You seem to agree with me except you have a problem when a competitor is specifically mentioned by name. When Apple was running the Mac vs PC ads, you were ok with it just because Apple didn't specifically say "Windows". If thats how you like it fine, but everyone knows Apple was not talking about Linux or DOS.



Here is a link of people making fun of Samsung's larger devices to refresh your memory:
http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-thedoghousediaries-apple-watch-618561.png

Samsung is a huge company and they make money even from Apple iphone's because they manufacture some equipment that goes in that product AFAIK. They make money from selling S4's AND iphones. They are not worried:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324682204578513882349940500





I meant the strategy in marketing generally speaking not in the specific case of Samsung vs Apple. If you can bring real facts and numbers against your competitors why not? Suppose PS4 advertise that their hardware is faster more capable than Wii U(for example) Do you see that as lame advertising?

I gotcha and can understand that. Overall, I guess I am like most where I wish the commercials Samsung post up would concentrate on what their product can do and how well it can do it versus look at the other guy type mentallity.

I watched the GN4 unboxing event and while the N4 device and specs got me interested in it, the presenters were horrible (especially the british chick). They seriously need to take a step back and take some cues from Apple on how to sell a device. I am not saying stop making all the devices they make but to identify what causes Apple to have such a high rate of success with a device and how it is presented. Listen to a Keynote for an iPhone or iPad. They use words, like phenominal, amazing, outstanding, etc... the presenters are pationate about the devices they are presenting and you can feel it, even when you are not physically at the Keynote.

Now watch the unboxing event from the GN4. It is like listening to this guy

Ben-Stein.jpg


and adding in bad jokes and forced applause for their brand new devices.

I think it is time for Samsung to start taking a different approach with marketing their products than trying to mock the competition. It hasn't really worked out well for them so far so I am wondering when they will decide to change. You know what they say about insantity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
 
Not true, Galaxy s4 sold 10 million in the first month, galaxy s5 - 16 mil. On that graph it states less than 1 mil. in 1 month. Everyone can see this graph is fake.

So, the iPhone 6 had 4 million preorders in 1 day. It will easily top the 5S's 16 million in a month. Your point?
 
Here is a link
I meant the strategy in marketing generally speaking not in the specific case of Samsung vs Apple. If you can bring real facts and numbers against your competitors why not? Suppose PS4 advertise that their hardware is faster more capable than Wii U(for example) Do you see that as lame advertising?

I meant it's not an effective strategy for Samsung as evidenced by their declining profits and sales. They need to reexamine their marketing strategy.
 
Stylus?

Can you say Newton? Even the handwriting recognition worked better than this commercial. Back in 1990.
 
I'm curious......HTC and LG came out with larger screens ages ago....why are they not being called out for copying?:rolleyes:
 
Samsung has introduced a new ad for its upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note 4, talking about how the company first introduced the Galaxy Note series in 2011 and popularized the "phablet" form factor while calling out Apple for making the similarly sized iPhone 6 Plus three years later.

Silly geese. I think Samsung missed a great opportunity to re-use Apple's newspaper ad from 1981, snidely welcoming IBM to the personal computer market:

welcome_ibm.jpg

They could've done a "Welcome Apple, Seriously, to bigger screens and personal choice".

Somebody else already beat them to it about the NFC, although it appears to be a genuine welcome:

welcome_apple_nfc.jpg
 
That's my take as well. The side effect though is, if any other Apple users are like me, we've developed a negative feeling toward the Samsung BRAND and have stopped buying Samsung televisions and appliances.

Agreed, and a very good point. I have such little respect for the way that Samsung does business, I refuse to buy their products. I know that Samsung parts may still be in other products that I buy, but I refuse to buy a Samsung product.

I bought an LG TV even when the Samsung one was cheaper. (very happy with the LG by the way)

I'm in the market for new laundry appliances too and it's a given that they won't say Samsung on the front.

So, yes, your point is very valid. Good show!
 
If it were up to Samsung to make the very first modern smartphone back in 2007 instead of Apple, I think we all know that they would have built a good device with good specs and then crippled it by putting Windows Mobile on it. Unlike hardware, software requires a level of abstract artistry that Samsung just doesn't possess, their culture doesn't allow such obsessive levels of creativity.

I quoted this part of your post for a specific reason. It's 100% true. I'm a programmer so I deal with software all the time. You can give me the greatest hardware ever created, latest everything, but if my software sucks it will make that hardware look like it was 7+ years old (basically ancient in terms of computing and technology). Though if you "limit" me to just some good hardware, that might not be the latest specs just good, reliable hardware, and I go and spend a lot of time and dedication to the software and the overall design of the software systems, then it can make that hardware look almost top notch.

Me just throwing in the latest and greatest features that I randomly thought of when programming the software would get me no where. When I use a Samsung phone (and yes I am extensively used pretty much all of the latest Samsung phones that are released) that is pretty much exactly what I see and experience. Just random "features" thrown in without thinking one time about how they each will work and "communicate" with one another? How one features will compliment the other feature. Samsung's commercials even show this even more. They are too busy trying to insult Apple and their users (another thing that I can't stand for any company to do, don't insult other products users) and show off these so called amazing features that they refuse to tell or show me HOW the feature can be useful. Samsung refuses to tell me WHY I need a certain feature and HOW it can help me.

This is even the primary difference when people bring up the "I'm a Mac" ad campaign Apple did. If people were to actually go back and WATCH the ad's, 90% of them had a reason/theme behind it. They all had a point. They didn't insult PC users (maybe one or two later on tried too) and most of them demonstrated a feature (usually the entire ad focused on a said feature) that showed me WHY and HOW this feature would help me.

Now of course I'm sure someone here will find a way to say "But Apple did this one time, and that goes against what you just said!" That may be true because I will be the first to admit that Apple is not perfect. They make mistakes and do things that I do not like/am a fan of. That doesn't change all the great things they do and focus on and continue to do and focus on.
 
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