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The new Apple TV 4K unveiled this week ships with a redesigned Siri Remote with a physical clickpad, new power and mute buttons for a TV, and a repositioned Siri button, but there's another change that has gone less noticed.

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According to Digital Trends, the new Siri Remote lacks an accelerometer and gyroscope, which allowed the original Siri Remote to function as a gaming controller. Apple even required tvOS games to support the Siri Remote following the launch of the fourth-generation Apple TV, but it dropped this requirement in June 2016.

Due to its lack of accelerometer and gyroscope, the new Siri Remote will not be compatible with motion/tilt-based Apple TV games. Instead, users will need to use the original Siri Remote or connect an Apple-certified game controller.

The following message will appear on the Apple TV when opening a game that does not work with the new Siri Remote, according to tvOS 14.5 code seen by MacRumors contributor Steve Moser: "To play this game on your Apple TV, you need to connect the Apple TV Remote (1st generation) or a compatible PlayStation, Xbox or MFi controller."

Note that the Siri Remote is called the Apple TV Remote in countries where Siri is not available on the Apple TV, but the remote is otherwise identical in functionality.

Gaming on the Apple TV has always been a niche relative to full-fledged consoles like the Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo Switch, and many users who do play tvOS games likely prefer to use an actual game controller anyway, so the new Siri Remote's lack of accelerometer and gyroscope is unlikely to be a dealbreaker for many users.

It's worth noting that Bloomberg's Mark Gurman had reported that a new Apple TV would have a stronger gaming focus. A faster A12 chip does benefit gaming performance, and tvOS 14.5 adds expanded game controller support on the software side, but a gaming-focused Apple TV with an A14X chip rumored by leaker "Fudge" has yet to materialize.

Article Link: New Siri Remote Lacks Accelerometer and Gyroscope for Gaming on Apple TV
 
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trim

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I assume that there wasn't much use of the accelerometer/gyroscope outside gaming so they thought it wasn't worth the extra cost.

Still, a shame that they removed that as it locks you out of games that were designed to work with the base TV without an additional gamepad. And they are really pushing Apple Arcade.
 

randyhudson

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And most importantly, missing the U1 chip.

The thing that you lose in the couch abyss the most is the remote, not keys or cats.

Apple wants you to find other companies’ stuff, but if it’s an apple remote or AirPod pros, those you can lose so you’ll have to replace them.

Even the Fitbit I used to have many years ago would constantly emit a Bluetooth signal, allowing me to hunt it down when lost.
 

ipedro

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It's worth noting, however, that Bloomberg's Mark Gurman had reported that a new Apple TV would have a stronger gaming focus, not a lesser one. A leaker known as Fudge previously claimed that two new Apple TV models were in the works, including one with an A14X-like chip for gaming, but no such model was announced this week. If that rumor was true, it's possible the gaming-focused Apple TV was scrapped or is coming later.

I think that this is a hint of a greater focus on games, not less. The remote is no longer the expected gaming controller. My guess is the other shoe has yet to drop: an Apple designed gaming controller sold separately later in the fall.

This new Apple TV is pretty power packed. Arcade games are going to run fantastic on this, including future games that will no longer have the slow 4 year old Apple TV holding them back. Arcade games must run on iOS, iPadOS and tvOS and the old Apple TV was the bottleneck.
 

Neodym

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Maybe Apple just realized that they‘re (too) late for the gaming party and can’t really compete with dedicated platforms like PlayStation or XBox. Then it would be a logical move to remove cost drivers that play a negligible role for the major part of the target audience for AppleTV.

People inclined to play on an AppleTV for whatever reason are also very likely preferring to use a dedicated gaming controller for that. And since this is possible without problems, most people wouldn’t need those gaming-centric functionality in the remote in the first place.
 

yegon

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Well this clenches it for me I’m definitely gonna wait because there probably gonna drop another Apple TV that’s gaming focused that’s gonna include what people really wanted. LOL

Remind me, Pippin aside, when did Apple last release gaming focused hardware? You’ll be waiting forever, and even if it were to happen (likely never, if I wasn’t clear), existing console controllers are a 1000x better than a mythical future remote.

Apple don’t give a fudge about gaming, not their realm of experience or expertise. Sure, there’s Apple Arcade and games are the biggest sellers on the App Store, but that’s something Apple stumbled into due to wider popularity of mobile gaming among people who are typically non-gamers.

I’m not being snarky, merely illustrating that imo you‘d be wasting your time waiting for something that is never going to happen.
 
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noone

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Well this clenches it for me I’m definitely gonna wait because there probably gonna drop another Apple TV that’s gaming focused that’s gonna include what people really wanted. LOL
Why would they do that? This Apple TV is more than sufficient for the casual gaming that (I’m assuming) 98% of people do on it. If they were to do anything, I’d guess it would be an Apple branded gaming controller.
 

McScooby

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Apple wants you to find other companies’ stuff, but if it’s an apple remote or AirPod pros, those you can lose so you’ll have to replace them.

Even the Fitbit I used to have many years ago would constantly emit a Bluetooth signal, allowing me to hunt it down when lost.
Granted there's no U1 chip in the AirPods pros, but at least u can locate them in FindMy using last known location & ping them to play a sound when near. Apple seem to replace 1 bud if lost.
 
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