I don't mean to be rude, but you are talking utter nonsense. Touch based iPad apps on a keyboard/trackpad based laptop? Just stop and think before you type more stuff..
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I don't mean to be rude, but you are talking utter nonsense. Touch based iPad apps on a keyboard/trackpad based laptop? Just stop and think before you type more stuff..
Apple does not aspire to be a niche company and never has, though they ended up that way for a few years in the 90s. Apple is out to change the world not to pleasure a very small group of geeks. While it may be neat to imagine what Apple's engineering prowess could do for you, it just isn't going to happen.
Btw, what exactly do you think Apple could contribute to the 'desktop replacement' category that current entrants haven't already accomplished? Apple's hardware skills lie primarily in miniaturization, battery life, quietness, and aesthetics, which are all things you don't care about anyways.
huh? how is the only difference the cpu?
And why the heck would you get a laptop to run iOS apps?
Not to mention it would alienate all of their current MBA owners.
Why not be rude? Anyone who thinks that having touch apps on a device with a vertical screen is a good idea is out of their mind, as is anyone who thinks OS X users have any appetite for a transition to ARM which would break their existing apps (the Intel transition brought long-term battery/performance improvements. An ARM transition at this point would bring at best some short-term battery life improvements). People who think this way need to be shaken back to reality. Apple has said numerous times that people who try to "turn tablets into laptops and laptops into tablets" are a confused pathetic bunch and Apple will not be joining them.
I used the last model of 12" Powerbooks and always loved it. And I always wanted it to comeback to the lineup. But after all those years passed now they have to make it beautiful. They need to remove that thick frame around the screen and make it all glass.
I also hope they bring back the matte screens. If not it better be a nice retina display, otherwise it's annoying.
Please lower the price under $999 and watch the sales skyrocket.
I also hope they bring back the matte screens. If not it better be a nice retina display, otherwise it's annoying.
Please lower the price under $999 and watch the sales skyrocket.
Utter nonsense. How would an ARM MacBook "open up the MB to whole lot more apps"? It would in fact break all existing OS X apps, or force them to be run slowly in a virtual machine. Are you talking about iPad apps? Those are mostly designed for a touchscreen that lies flat. Even if they could be used effectively with a keyboard and mouse, the experience of switching between iPad apps and OS X ones would be, well, Microsoft-like. Try downloading Xcode for free on the app store- it comes with an iOS simulator. Try using iOS apps on your Mac for 5 minutes and you will want to die.
Yeah, I thought the same thing when I read this. Seems unlikely but it wouldn't completely shock me. Remember no one saw Intel Macs coming either.
One thing I am wondering is, assuming they could make a viable MacBook running OS X on ARM, what would they use for graphics? Intel "Iris" built-in graphics isn't the joke it once was and Apple seems to be going with that, except for the very high end, most expensive, MacBook Pro which has a dedicated graphics chip. What works with ARM that would stack up in terms of performance/cost/etc. in a desktop environment? I assume the mobile GPUs typically used in tablets wouldn't cut it in a desktop that needs to drive multiple displays (including external 4K), right?
I can't say for a fact, but it makes more sense to me.
There's no real compelling reason for Apple to use ARM chips in the Macs. If they were to push one to perform as well as an i5, it'd probably run about as hot, and use just as much battery. Plus it wouldn't be backwards compatible with any of the current Mac software library.
ARM is great for the iPad, where Apple was able to start fresh and build up support and capabilities over time. But when someone gets a Mac, they have expectations of what they can do with it. Early ARM Mac adopters will basically have a year where their brand new machines are nothing more than glorified Chromebooks. It'll take awhile before they become as compelling as the Intel equipped Macs Apple left behind. And for what? To make a machine that ultimately isn't any better than what we already had?
It'd work as a bridge between the Macs and the iDevices, I guess. But really, all it'll do is share the disadvantages of both, without enjoying any of the advantages of either.
And far smaller improvements than most people realise. A 10% improvement would be upper bound.
ARM processors only have a noticeable power advantage in h264 decoding these days, where Intel's processors are still quite inefficient.
Otherwise the power consumption of the wi-fi and display is simply too high for the CPU to make a difference.
Also, if apple truly wanted to let people run iOS apps on their laptops they could have done it long ago by simply including the simulator standard with OSX. iOS apps on a laptop is like trying to use a point and click calculator versus a physical one, utterly horrible.
Why does everyone assume that the bezel on the MB has no purpose? For one thing, it houses the video camera and ambient light sensor. For another, it may be necessary to have the backlight extend past the edges of the screen in order to have the kind of perfectly evenly lit screens that Apple prides themselves in (unlike say Amazon which doesn't care if their screens bleed blue around the edges)
Yeah, that won't be happening. While MacRumors commenters may look to the past for inspiration, Apple seldom does. Apple will however work to improve the glare on their glossy displays by reducing the air gap behind them and other such measures.
LOL. Since when does Apple care about that 'my company sells teh most' fanboy garbage? They want to sell a good product at a profitable price- market share is secondary.
so they will cancel the 13 inch MBA?
I don't want a 12" MBA,I want a 13" MBA with Retina screen.
12" too small for those who want to use it as their one and only computer.
I don't want a 12" MBA,I want a 13" MBA with Retina screen.
12" too small for those who want to use it as their one and only computer.
I assume that is the plan, I'm actually surprised they didn't consolidate them earlier.
13" always seemed a little small for a "pro" laptop to me, where you will typically be using very dense UIs with tons of palettes, windows, toolbar icon strips, such as Photoshop, Lightroom, Final Cut, Logic, Maya, etc. With them getting rid of the 17" MBP, I'd like to see a lineup of 3 total laptop screen sizes: 12" (light "non-pro" Air), 14" smaller, less expensive pro, 16" larger, more expensive pro.
This new MacBook Air promises to be the most incredible Mac yet. Consumers will be wowed by a fan-less computer with a stunning retina display and absolutely no moving parts. This is the future of traditional computing. I can't wait to order my 12" Retina Air.
I swear, these advertising bots are getting more and more realistic every day. Pretty soon, we won't be able to tell them apart from any of the regular posters around here.
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The fanless design is interesting. I would love that and it would be an immediate purchase. I was hoping for a retina 13.3, but 12 should be good enough.
My concern would be Flash content, especially in YouTube. Anything Flash related and it's a very high speed fan. Let's see how it is.
My concern would be Flash content, especially in YouTube. Anything Flash related and it's a very high speed fan. Let's see how it is.
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No thanks. Already have enough trouble keeping my MBA and iPad screens fingerprint free.
Couldn't agree more. Just call the laptops MacBook 11, 12, 13, 15 if they have to differentiate the products. Same thing with iPad: iPad 7, iPad 9 are preferable to "iPad Mini with Retina Display." With the generalized move to Retina for all Apple products, I don't see the necessity to use the term "retina" anymore.
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What is the product between a Mac Mini & a Mac Pro?
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12" macbook is what the rumors have said all along, it's going to be the rumored ipad pro so it'd be a touchscreen laptop with a keyboard.
mba will have a silent refresh. "new" chips aren't power enough to drive the IGZO retinas quite yet at least in terms of apple standards
12" macbook is what the rumors have said all along, it's going to be the rumored ipad pro so it'd be a touchscreen laptop with a keyboard.
mba will have a silent refresh. "new" chips aren't power enough to drive the IGZO retinas quite yet at least in terms of apple standards
I never use the click on my rMBP as i prefer the replacement gesture which is just the lightest of touches and the 3 finger drag works pretty damn well too.
If it is an i3 or i5 it would have to at least not go backwards in performance if it has to power 4 times the pixels... I can't imagine apple pushing out a less powerful MBA.
Personally, looking at how much Apple has poured into ARM research it would not surprising if to me if Apple has a laptop sized ARM-chip (64bit) with the ability to easily perform with the power efficiency Intel cannot supply with their chips, and Apple could use a program similar to the discontinued Rosetta to run intel applications. This also opens up a major possibility, OSX and IOS can now share the same programs, the ability for hundreds of thousands of apps to also support OSX as well. Arguably giving Apple the best set of applications in the Post-PC era.