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New Surface Pro 4 Ad Compares Tablet PC With MacBook Air
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I don't get it. Comparing a tablet to a laptop without a touchscreen and then saying a tablet is better because it has a touchscreen? And I have never heard them say you have to pay extra for that attachable keyboard.
You have to pay for two machines. One is needed for restoring the other.
Isn't the MBA possibly being phased out? What's next? A commercial comparing the Xbox One to a Dreamcast?
Which again only tells one side of the story.
In class, I am not walking around with both my MacBook and iPad Pro in hand, so comparing its combined weight is meaningless.
Yes, when I am commuting to and from work, they do weigh more together, but that's like only a small part of my workday (less than half an hour). The rest of the time, my backpack is at my table, and I am using either the MacBook or the iPad.
To me, where the iPad Pro shines is in the uncompromised tablet experience it affords me. That's the number one feature I look for on my list. It helps that the iPad Pro is also thin and light enough to be comfortable for me to use.
You are right in that the iPad is compromised. But to me, the iPad Pro represents the right compromise of battery life, portability and ease of use. The strengths matter a lot to me, and its drawbacks simply don't matter all that much to me.
You better forget the old ways to segment the computing market.
Also, Microsoft hardware sales (the Surface you see adverised here, for example) are a tiny fraction of Apple's, so, underdog it is, and by a wide margin.
Sure - Microsoft was never big in Hardware - but they clearly dominate the desktop OS and Enterprise market - the graph confirms the mobile domination remark by Apple and android no question there.
As long as there's nothing newer the comparison is fair, I'd say.
Still I think it's a bad idea going after Apple. Apple did the same, yes. But Apple was the underdog, that was funny. Microsoft still owns the PC marked, it just seems pathetic for Microsoft to give Apple so much attention.
But Apple did that very thing when they rolled out the iPad and saying its a laptop replacement.
MS is highlighting its features and strengths and comparing it against Apple who chose not to have those features.
The Surface Pro is not strictly a tablet, as it can act as a laptop, and it runs a full desktop OS.
Yeah, a better comparison would be the Surface Pro 4 vs the iPad Pro. The MBA is in a totally different class of computer. It is also curious why MS chose the MBA for comparison instead of the MB.
I think the implication here is that Apple lacks anything with the same feature set as the Surface Pro so you do need two devices instead of one. This is both less convenient and more expensive than Microsoft's 'compromise.' The iPad Pro is the closest in class to the Surface Pro, BUT the iPad Pro does not run a desktop OS.
Apple's split between MacOS and iOS is a problem because, as my daughter has found out with her school-issued iPad, iOS just isn't as productive for school work as is OS X.
You are mixing and matching here.... As per the graph you posted.
Microsoft was ALWAYS an underdog to Apple in hardware......always , one is a software company and the other a hardware company. Hmmmm
Are you saying Windows is an underdog to OS X ?
Given Apple has almost left computing ....what is this domination you speak of? They want you to buy iPad pros....
I was referring to larger 2-in-1s like this... those that turn into a "tablet" the size of a lunch tray
Which is why I asked "who would want this?"
But companies keep making these things... so I guess there is a market for them (?)
The Tablet side of the Surface 4 has a 2-3 hour battery life.
A full laptop in a tablet meme needs to die.
Microsoft was founded before Apple in 1975. The latter was founded a year after. So without MS, there would be NO Apple.
The OS doesn't make it a desktop. You still have to purchase the keyboard in order to consider it a laptop, exactly like an iPad Pro. Neither tablet comes with an attachable keyboard.
The one thing Microsoft is right about is that Apple needs to update their lines as they are getting stale and old. MS is wrong on windows ever being better than macOS. MS is wrong on that hardware being better than Apples. Hell in many use cases the ipad pro outshines the MS mess and is cheaper.
That was my point with the "cementing their underdog position" sentence.
Nope.
That makes no sense. Apple has sold well over 4M Macs in the last quarter.
And I've never mentioned the "domination" word so take your strawmen elsewhere.
So was the iPad Pro. It's STILL overpriced without a proper keyboard attached. Surface's memory can be expanded with an SD card, but you can't do that with the iPad ( regardless of Cloud tech ).
If you're talking about the GUI interface controlled by a mouse, Jobs made a deal with Xerox to use their technology in return of something. The deal went through.
Microsoft saw the Lisa/Macintosh in action and copied it (albeit in a clunky way for years and years, until maybe Windows 7 and up. Windows 10 is still an ugly POS).
If you know enough about the history of computing, Apple already had a GUI and by that time Microsoft was still in MSDOS.
If you're talking about seeing what's around the corner and what the consumer NEEDS, Microsoft has never really been about that, it was first and foremost a business -- for making money and they had succeeded for over 20 years.
I am kind of glad that they started to take design and industrial design more seriously lately and their hardware is not too shabby -- but Windows 10 is still a clunky POS (I can say this because I dual boot and use it for things OS X can't do).
Microsoft is better now than before, but you can't really change a company's DNA and roots.
Apple was always the underdog, and Microsoft/IBM/etc were the big dogs.
Obviously Apple has been lazy lately (we miss you Steve), but they still churn out good products that have utilitarian conditional rules set forth by designers of the past.
Microsoft can't and will never be like Apple because Apple is a design from the top into engineering company.
Who really needs a pen for a laptop, let's be serious here?