Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
New Surface Pro 4 Ad Takes on Apple's 'What's a Computer?' iPad Pro Campaign
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
The latest version does support direct raw editing. I tested it and it works very well.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/3616937663/adobe-boosts-lightroom-mobile-with-raw-editing-for-ios
Microsoft doesn't have laptops and the Surface Pro is not as powerful as a Macbook Pro.
Granted, they have a tablet with a full OS, something Apple can implement, but you can also buy a Mac Book Air with all the interfaces and CPU required, plus it's thinner and probably lighter than the Surface-Pro.
It depends on what you want.
Granted, they have a tablet with a full OS, something Apple can implement, but you can also buy a Mac Book Air with all the interfaces and CPU required, plus it's thinner and probably lighter than the Surface-Pro.
It depends on what you want.
I'm an Apple guy. I will forever be an Apple guy. But this ad does have the sting of truth. Love my iPad. And I love where Apple is going with the iPad pro. They are obviously moving towards a hybrid laptop/tablet. I have confidence that when they do it, it'll be a much better experience than the surface... BUT... they sure are taking their sweet time getting there.
Stop definng away the competition. Many posters saying the 12.9 ipp is not a tablet because
it is too big. Yup.
They aren't bigger phone apps, they are touch-optimized apps[/QUOTE]
100% spot on. I think the poster was referring to android tablet apps that are literally upscaled phone apps.
iPad apps are very optimized for the screen size, plus I cant do split screen or picture in picture on my phone.
100% spot on. I think the poster was referring to android tablet apps that are literally upscaled phone apps.
iPad apps are very optimized for the screen size, plus I cant do split screen or picture in picture on my phone.
I think so. Maybe they will go with an all ios tablet hybrid. The would forgo some "pro" apps, but I think it would be enormously successfull
Well those people are idiots. It could be 30" and still be a tablet. The form factor defines it not the size.
-The ability to use mouse/trackpad is still more efficient in many applications from a productivity standpoint, exclusively using touch optimized apps and navigation for your only computer is uncomfortable after long periods and leads to gorilla arm-exactly what Steve Jobs warned against.
-As accurate as the pen is charging it in the lightning port is super awkward and storing it is impossible- its implementation could have been better executed.
Microsoft is grasping at straws. Alan Kay was right: People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware. At least MS is taking the advice.
Surface Pro. iPad Pro. Whatever. These tablets were just not decided to handle heavy-duty horsepower desktop apps like Maya, Cinema and Photoshop. Can you run the apps? Sure. But you'd almost be better off running VNC hooked up to a real computer. You'd be hiding and showing palettes constantly since there's no real estate.
It's ridiculous Microsoft is even going there. They can't win at consumers so let's try the artist/designer market—at least they'd appreciate the drawing ability. Sorry, MS, not buying it.
Overheard by a fly on the wall at a Microsoft marketing meeting:
VP: So we suck at mobile. Apple and others are crushing us in hardware sales. And our mobile OS market is barely anything. Maybe we should go back to what people still use in corporate America: Windows.
Another VP: how about putting Windows on a tablet? Then we can tell IT departments that even though tablets are super limited in functionality, they can scrape by in some cases and in case they gotta run a legacy Windows app, they still can.
VP: Brilliant. Let's do it.
** a year or so later **
VP: Guys, SP adaption is not what we expected. People are just buying laptops anyway.
Another VP: What if we go after Apple? Touch is good for artists... tell 'em they can run full Photoshop and Maya. iPad Pro only wishes it could do that.
VP: Are you sure they won't see through that bulls$hit?
Another VP: They're a bunch of stupid designers, after all they buy Apple's garbage right? Our specs are way better...
Surface Pro. iPad Pro. Whatever. These tablets were just not decided to handle heavy-duty horsepower desktop apps like Maya, Cinema and Photoshop. Can you run the apps? Sure. But you'd almost be better off running VNC hooked up to a real computer. You'd be hiding and showing palettes constantly since there's no real estate.
It's ridiculous Microsoft is even going there. They can't win at consumers so let's try the artist/designer market—at least they'd appreciate the drawing ability. Sorry, MS, not buying it.
Overheard by a fly on the wall at a Microsoft marketing meeting:
VP: So we suck at mobile. Apple and others are crushing us in hardware sales. And our mobile OS market is barely anything. Maybe we should go back to what people still use in corporate America: Windows.
Another VP: how about putting Windows on a tablet? Then we can tell IT departments that even though tablets are super limited in functionality, they can scrape by in some cases and in case they gotta run a legacy Windows app, they still can.
VP: Brilliant. Let's do it.
** a year or so later **
VP: Guys, SP adaption is not what we expected. People are just buying laptops anyway.
Another VP: What if we go after Apple? Touch is good for artists... tell 'em they can run full Photoshop and Maya. iPad Pro only wishes it could do that.
VP: Are you sure they won't see through that bulls$hit?
Another VP: They're a bunch of stupid designers, after all they buy Apple's garbage right? Our specs are way better...
Isn't it fun to pull facts out of bodily orifices. The 8086 CPU (that those "x86" chips are named after) didn't use a fan. Fans started coming into use many years later.
Fanless comptuers running contemporary "x86" chips have been available non-stop throughout the decades since.
Also, there is no such thing as a Core M "x86". "x86" was pretty much dropped after 32-bit processors. The 64-bit descendants including the chip in the surface, every core M ever made, and every chip iIntel has made for the past several years, are referred to as "x64".
The comments on this post almost prove that Apple has changed without Steve. Without Steve convincing us at every keynote that his/Apple's way was THE way, people stop believing it, and start saying crazy things like 'Microsoft is right'.
Congratulations, they've managed to replace the laptop... With a touch screen laptop.
Congratulations, they've managed to replace the laptop... With a touch screen laptop.
Don't get me wrong. I like the idea and concept of a 2-in-1 device like a Surface, and I took a really long look at it when I was looking at a laptop. I see the surface as a fantastic ultrabook/large ungainly tablet whereas the iPad Pro 9.7" is a fantastic tablet with about 75% of what I want in a laptop. I chose the tablet as being the predominant interface I wanted in a portable device. With the pen plus office 365, I can take notes on my iPad and alter/edit spreadsheets and powerpoints while saving the heavy lifting for my PCs at work and home. I finally feel like I can go nearly paperless around the office. The iPad is small enough to fit in my purse and take everywhere while a Surface would not be, and the device I can take anywhere will win out over the device that ends up sitting at my desk.
I honestly didn't really expect the iPad Pro to be as useful as it ended up being for me, but it really has taken over a lot of my day to day computer usage.
I honestly didn't really expect the iPad Pro to be as useful as it ended up being for me, but it really has taken over a lot of my day to day computer usage.
Yes, bitcoins have come up in price.
[doublepost=1471369967][/doublepost]
Yes, it's a magical screen!
1. I didn't say or implied it comes with two monitors.
2. That's just your opinion. I use multiple virtual desktops in full screen mode to work on different parts of the code. And I'm OK with that.
if I wanted my ipad to work like a laptop I'd use my macbook.
still rocking my trusty fourth gen ipad every day. dont need to upgrade it dont think i will for a while yet!
still rocking my trusty fourth gen ipad every day. dont need to upgrade it dont think i will for a while yet!
Once again, it's just you opinion. Don't try to force it into others because nobody will care.