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Your math is 100% impossible.
He's using 80% Mental, 40% Physical
Well, Surface Pro 4 can run ransomware and the iPad Pro can't

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I don't like where this is going...
NUKE IT! Don't pay anything !!:)
 
Whomever pitched the "iPad Pro is your computer" ad inside Apple is feeling a lot of butt hurt after this Microsoft response piece.
Not really, let the ad play for four hours, and when the battery on the Surface 4 dies, spend the next 4 to 8 hours doing work on the iPad Pro that you can't do at all with the Surface 4's dead battery...
 
Shouldn't Microsoft advertise the features that Surface has instead of bashing out the competition?

You mean like an Intel i7 processor, a row of standard ports, a trackpad, full versions of software instead of tablet app versions?

Microsoft was advertising features that Surface has.
 
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Battery life is all I care about with a tablet "computer." I tried the MSS4 and like most "2n1s" the battery life was terrible.

PASS.

I don't need a computer, I need what the iPad is.
 
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The title of this non storie should be as follows:

New Surface Pro 4 Ad Takes on Apple's 'What's a Computer?' iPad Pro Campaign. Continues to be irrelevant

That certainly explains why I see less iPads and more Surface Pros on the train every week. But well, I live in Germany, not the US, and the market here has always been very different.
 
I have owned a couple of iPads, only iPhones since the first one, and Macs (both desktop and laptops). I would say i am in the ecosystem. But, I am looking, sadly, at a samsung for my next phone and a surface for the next tablet. I don't know what i'll do yet when it is time to replace my 2011 iMac or 2012 macbook pro. The time is approaching.
 
I think for most people the iPad is enough. I am into tech like a lot of you here and my iPad air 2 is my main "computer"
I dont edit stuff or write essays etc.

I can split apps and watch a video at the same time, and with IOS 10 Beta I can split safari windows which is really nice.
So I dont see myself wanting a traditional pc anytime soon.
 
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Love my 12.9" iPad Pro and use it all the time to consume content. At our office, the Surface now rules for the reason Microsoft states (and it doesn't hurt that Microsoft owns Office).

Apple's overall advertising isn't what is once was. They look like the stodgy old company now and Microsoft is poking fun at them.

The iPad is a tablet, not a computer. Apple time to wake up R&D and start building new interesting products. Microsoft is suddenly kicking your arse (and I'm a big Apple fan).
 
LOL - Im usually against companies like MS and Samsung bashing Apple when they usually follow Apple anyways (Think back to when Samsung bashed Apple for calling their iPhone users 'wall huggers' and months later, we see an s6 with no removable battery. Ha) but this is actually spot on. The iPad is pretty limited in that respect and all the points raised were on point. Still think its childish though. Although i bet it will bring a lot of the 'non' tech savvy people on the MS bandwagon!
 
I have to say I've never understood this tablet, or "tablet-trying-to-be-a-computer" thing... (Apple or otherwise) Or why anyone would pick an iPad over say a macbook air or retina macbook. I mean, there's hardly a massive difference in weight or dimensions, and yet there IS a massive difference in functionality, and obvious OS advantages aside, at the very least you don't need a fancy case to sit them on a table, and they conveniently already come with a built-in keyboard! With that in mind, I really think tablets are such a step backwards..!

I realise people's needs are different, but for most needs, a light laptop is better in every way.. I can only think of certain artists who may genuinely require an iPad pro, but how did tablets become so common that people think they're the future of computing??! It' nonsense!
 
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Cook and company want to oversell the pro as a laptop replacement running a mobile os. In reality it's a great media consumption device with improved functionality through having a pressure sensitive stylus, nothing more.
 
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That was so different. microsoft is making full of themselves once again by argiung that iPad is not a computer. That's just sad. Of course it's not a computer like in the 80's, 90's or 00's, but it's a computer non the less.

but of course ads like this work for idiots just fine.
But for idiots, "nonetheless" is an actual word.



Michael
 
Apple brought this on themselves because they don't know how to market it. Lots of people love their ipads. There's no need to try to position it as something it isn't. Silly Apple..

Since when computer is defined as a machine capable of running WINDOW OS software? According to Cambrdige dictionary, computer is an electronic device that can storage large amount of information adn be given sets of instructions to organize and change it very quickly.

So given that an Ipad pro can serve the the majority of people for their daily needs (work, web surfing , email, photo editing, socializing, etc.), it's not an overstatement to say that it's a computer. The only thing from Microsoft ads I notice was about its keyboard, which is a $100 extra accessories. You can get one from third party for much less.

If you claim that Surface pro is better because it can run software like Photoshop, then asks the Pros who use Photoshop everyday if they run it on a Surface pro. For seriouse photo editing, the Surface pen is a joke compared to a Wacom
 
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The Surface Pro 4 starts at $899 for 128GB of internal storage and 4GB of RAM, and going up to as much as $1,799 for 256GB of internal storage and 16GB of RAM. Comparatively, the 12.9-inch iPad Pro starts at a smaller $799 for 32GB and maxes out at $1,099 for 256GB, with all models including 4GB of RAM.

What's with the pricing and specs paragraph?
 
Desperate advert from Microsoft.
I wonder what the sales numbers are like between these two devices. I am sure Apple has sold a lot more ipads than Microsoft have sold surface tablets.
Maybe.
Does it mean it's failing ? No.
Does it mean Apple has a better foothold than Microsoft in that area ? Yes.

That's like saying new products, companies et all are desperate and failing because they don't have the same user base than companies already established in this area.
Microsoft release the first Surface a while ago, but:
1) The first versions were far from "good enough",
2) Microsoft isn't a hardware company,
3) The public opinion about Microsoft is lower than Apple,
4) The Surface Pro 4/Book aren't upgrades of previous successful devices.
 
Theissue with The surface is Windows 10. It is little more than spyware.
You might but a surface but then you are owned by MS. Constant very buggy updates that you can stop. Spying on your every move.
Malware.
Windows 10 is a bipolar OS. Does neither thing better than the single use competition.

So, you have a choice. Flip over to Microsoft and get spied upon but have permission (that can be revoked at any time) to use their OS. The computer you paid for is no longer yours especially if they enforce secure boot to stop that pesky Linux impostor from booting on it.
OR do you stick it out with Apple and get something that works.
Your choice
 
When you're the underdog, mud slinging is fine. I approve of these ads. :) Especially considering this was warmly amusing and Apple did exactly the same format ads with the Mac/PC campaign.

Sammys on the other hand are just tripe and actually attack users, not products.
 
Whomever pitched the "iPad Pro is your computer" ad inside Apple is feeling a lot of butt hurt after this Microsoft response piece.

No need to insult others just to get your point across. What's is your definition of "computer"? Just curious
 
That's why I said SP3 and earlier.

was really mostly the case with the Surface Pro 3. The Surface Pro 2 doesn't suffer from much thermal throttling. My SP2 is still rocking very well. The difference between the SP2 an SP3 though is the change in design, getting much much thinner, but without the same robust cooling.

I haven't tried a SP4 yet, but I believe they remedied the thermal throttling issues for it.
 
The surface pro 4 "maxes out" at 16GB ram and 1TB storage for $2,699.00, not 256GB storage for $1799.
 
Can surface pro run Linux (ubuntu/mint) with touch screen still supported? If it can I will totally get one just for that!!
 
If I was going to college I'd take a macbook or surface pro over an ipad pro with no regrets. A non-mobile os laptop is better than an ipad for content creation and productivity.
 
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