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iPads still can't handle RAW files. If you import them directly to the iPad any edits will only be applied to the embedded JPEG file which defeats the purpose. What you can do (maybe this is how you do it) is import them to Lightroom on a Mac and create Smart Previews which can then be edited on an iPad with Lightroom Mobile. This is a limitation that is quite disappointing to me. I want to be able to import files directly to the iPad on the go and be able to edit the full data.
RAW editing is coming to iOS 10, as I understood. So it's gonna be there. Has to be implemented by third-party developers of course, but that will for sure happen.
 
I think that speaks to software developers i.e. Adobe who KNOW that few iPad owners actually do that type of work on their iPads so why bother.
But which is the cause? Do few people do that work on an iPad, because the software isn't available, or is Adobe right in not making the software available because few people would use it?
 
I'll jump in too - Microsoft is right. Apple really missed this market. iOS is great for consuming content, but it isn't remotely a full-fledged computer.

I hope they do more than the gimmicky OLED bar on the new macs and pen enable the screen.
 
Well, Surface Pro 4 can run ransomware and the iPad Pro can't

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I don't like where this is going...
Really ?
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6280544?tstart=0
 
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But which is the cause? Do few people do that work on an iPad, because the software isn't available, or is Adobe right in not making the software available because few people would use it?


Adobe KNOWS the number of App sales - the tale of the tape.
 
The problem came about when Apple decided to call the iPad a "computer" instead of a "tablet." Maybe some day Apple will get off its ass and provide a couple of USB ports, and access to the damn file system, then they might be able to actually call it a "computer."

Having an Intel Core-anything processor is not a determining factor to being a "computer," so that's just a red herring, and who's fault is it that "full Office" isn't available for iPad (or other "tablets")? That would be you Microsoft - there is no technical reason you can't port the full Office apps to iOS or pretty much any other platform (i.e. Linux).
 
The UI elements on macOS are not designed for touch. This is also an issue in Windows 10. Touch requires much bigger UI elements (e.g. the notorious Ribbon on Office) or a stylus to work properly. Plus an entire library of third party software would need to be re-written. macOS already has a harder time attracting developers (much harder than iOS and Windows).

Apple has the ability to make OSX work well with touch, and attract developers.

The fact that they decide to focus more on the mobile devices is a whole separate discussion. I can go on for quite a while about the lack of a compelling new laptop, the issues I have with my 2013 Mac Pro and various problems with OSX that they could fix. As of now I'm debating whether my next laptop will be whatever the new rMBP is, or whatever the new Surface Book winds up being. Its up to both companies to impress. Sadly, I've been leaning towards the Surface Book but we'll see.
 
What i don't understand is why are people buying over priced surface when there are other vendors that does the same thing for less. overall it is still running windows. there are lots of choices out there.
 
I never wanted a tablet to be a replacement for a computer - the fact that gap between the two is shrinking means more usability for the tablet side (which is nice) but there's always going to be a limit to the general work because of the form factor. And if I'm going to want a tablet, I'm going to want it to be thin and long-lasting - what the iPad is today - that's not worth the trade off to shove an i5 and integrated processor in.

But I have no problems with iOS on iPad, either, given it is a much more reliable OS for general usage.
 
As someone who just got a 12.9" iPad Pro - I cracked up a LOT when I heard the words, "I got a keyboard, I'm a computer now".

If it weren't for battery life and LTE - I'm finding I'd be much happier with a Surface Pro.
 
Apple brought this on themselves because they don't know how to market it. Lots of people love their ipads. There's no need to try to position it as something it isn't. Silly Apple..
 
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I can't say I didn't see this coming.

Love my iPad Pro because it's a big iPad with a keyboard not because it's going to run a desktop OS. No point pretending it's a Surface when it's not.

I agree with you 100 percent. But it is Apple that is marketing the iPad as a computer. Probably because they haven't made a new computer in years. That being said, I have several Mac, but I have Windows 10 on my engineering PC and what a pain it's been. I spend way more time administering the PC than all my Macs combined. I sure wish Apple would release a new Mac Pro worthy of the title.
 
The thing is that you don't have to hate Microsoft to love Apple. It's okay to like a device from Microsoft and still find Apple to be the better solution provider overall. This "us" against "them" mentality in this country is getting out of hand.

I quite agree, although to be honest, I wouldn't call myself a fan of either as this point in time. Apple has really regressed from a functional standpoint as of late. We keep hearing about the superior user experience that the Apple ecosystem provides, and yet Apple has been neglecting the very backbone of that ecosystem (i.e., their computer lineup).

I understand the importance of R&D, but the current lineup has been languishing for an inexcusably long time. I really hope Apple has something up their sleeve for the MBP refresh. Otherwise, it's going to be much easier to transition out of the Apple ecosystem altogether.
 
Depending on the user and use case, the better PC is wholly subjective.

For business folks and many users who rely on traditional PC apps to do their work, Surface is the better PC.

For everyone else who uses it predominantly for email, reading, browsing the web, messaging, basic productivity apps and social networking, iPad is the better PC.

One thing is certain... they're both headed in the same direction. But for now, I don't think either device beats a great laptop if that's their measuring stick which is why I carry both.
 
Even at Microsoft people do not recognize SP4 as a tablet. I have Office 365 subscription so I decided to install Office 2016 on my SP4. It consumed one of computer licenses, not the tablet one. I called MS hotline and learned, that SP4 is considered by MS as a computer because its' screen is bigger than 10" and it runs full Windows 10.
I have both IPP 9,7 and SP4. SP4 works great for me as a laptop replacement, but I am sometimes confused when to use keyboard, trackpad, finger or pencil. I use IPP daily for mail, browsing the web, reading etc.
 
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Adobe KNOWS the number of App sales - the tale of the tape.
For an app that does not exist.

You can't sell an app that doesn't exist. So sales are zero. Now, they sell related apps (photoshop Mix, lightroom). But that does not answer the question either.

Adobe CAN'T KNOW how an app that does not exist will do. They can guess, and satisfy themselves with the guess. Can they be wrong?

Let's talk about Pokémon Go. That was just supposed to be a small time game...
 
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