They meant Windows apps designed for a touchscreen; optimised for Surface. OP was completely right.
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New Surface Pro 4 Ad Takes on Apple's 'What's a Computer?' iPad Pro Campaign
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They meant Windows apps designed for a touchscreen; optimised for Surface. OP was completely right.
Don't bring a spoon to a nuclear war.
iPad problems/sales can be fixed overnight with an update...
But, it has to be one heck of an update that gives iOS all the power of Mac OS.
But, it has to be one heck of an update that gives iOS all the power of Mac OS.
There are plenty of us that don't need to run Windows apps and the IPP is just fine and you can still get real work done. There are some unfortunate omissions like usb connectivity but more and more there is very little I need my mac (or a pc) for and when I do, I just remote connect. The surface is really for all those desktop apps and is a different market, I don't see the issue really and would be surprised if Apple bring touch to the Mac, more likely will be improvement of desktop type features in iOs but keeping it as mainly touch.
If the iPad Pro works for you then that's great. I see no argument here on either side of this debate. If someone is happy with the Surface, then so be it. There are different devices for different users and their needs. I could never do what I do on the iPad Pro, but it doesn't make it inferior to the Surface. They offer different solutions and fit different needs.
I would add that the Surface can do everything a full pledged PC can do. I cannot say the same about any iOS device when compared to OS X device. That was my point. And for the record, I never called you an idiot. You are clearly not an idiot. I value your point of view and I'm sure many share your option, based on their needs. But to call the iPad Pro a PC replacement simply is a stretch - in my opinion
LOL! In the past year I've cut down the number of apps I have on my iPad from a million to just 500,000.
I also see why the Surface is having a party in the video i believe its finally fixed its software issues after a year of widespread freezes and rapid battery drains while sleeping.
After 20 years as a big Windows user and a recent Mac convert, i don't want anything Windows ever again, you lose so much of your life to just babysitting it. Its even worse now with Windows 10, a schizophrenic interface and its delivered as a service so what worked today maybe broken tomorrow. Keep with the silly adverts MS and we will stick with our very aggressive replacement of computers running Windows to iPads or Mac's, 750+ done so far. I took your sh*t for far to long Microsoft, you won't fool me anymore.
After 20 years as a big Windows user and a recent Mac convert, i don't want anything Windows ever again, you lose so much of your life to just babysitting it. Its even worse now with Windows 10, a schizophrenic interface and its delivered as a service so what worked today maybe broken tomorrow. Keep with the silly adverts MS and we will stick with our very aggressive replacement of computers running Windows to iPads or Mac's, 750+ done so far. I took your sh*t for far to long Microsoft, you won't fool me anymore.
Do you know how to use Office for Ipad to edit a word doc? Or do you think the word doc proceed through Office for Ipad will not be compatible with Window computers?
The UI elements on macOS are not designed for touch. This is also an issue in Windows 10. Touch requires much bigger UI elements (e.g. the notorious Ribbon on Office) or a stylus to work properly. Plus an entire library of third party software would need to be re-written. macOS already has a harder time attracting developers (much harder than iOS and Windows).
Exactly.
This is why I've chosen Apple over Microsoft. Still use Windows for school though (IT related training), but it just lacks consistency. My iPhone, Mac, Apple TV and even Apple Watch work together like a charm. Continuity is one major breakthrough from Apple that no other company has been able to even match. It works so simple, there's no hassle with setting things up to make it work. "It just works", like Steve would've said. Even if Microsoft would be able to create something similar, you'd have to go through a 100-page setup before you're done setting it up. And it still wouldn't be very reliable.
Apple delivers the perfect ecosystem for its devices. Many people complain how Apple should put OS X on an iPad. If you want to be able to carry OS X with you, consider getting a MacBook. iPad was never supposed to replace the computer, it's a tablet. And a tablet is meant to have a lightweight OS, one that really works for a touch screen. The Surface is basically a notebook without the need for a physical keyboard and it has a touch screen.
Now, I do have to admit that the iPad Pro is overpowered for what it can do. But that's not a bad thing by any means. It's up to developers to create apps that take 100% advantage of the processor and RAM inside the iPad, simple as that.
I really think Microsoft should consider all of this. What they basically do in this video, is comparing a notebook to a tablet. It doesn't add up, sorry Microsoft.
REALLY ... the entire iWork suite is INCOMPATIBLE between OS and iOS ... so much for that friendly experience!
I am about to go on a long overseas trip and I would always take my Macbook, iPad and iPhone just to make sure I have everything I need. This time, I think I'll take the phone and the Surface and that's it
I don't think a computer means sth that can run full version of Photoshop or Excel or MS access.
I don't think anyone buys ipad pro to do those stuffs.
A computer for my Mom is way different from my computer. iPad may be enough of a computer for some people.
What Microsoft does is quite a cheap and easy ad tactic.
Sure. MS is right. iPad pro is not "computer" enough for many people.
But I guess Surface pro is too much "computer" for many people too.
I don't think anyone buys ipad pro to do those stuffs.
A computer for my Mom is way different from my computer. iPad may be enough of a computer for some people.
What Microsoft does is quite a cheap and easy ad tactic.
Sure. MS is right. iPad pro is not "computer" enough for many people.
But I guess Surface pro is too much "computer" for many people too.
I think Cook needs to re- think his statement on how exactly is my iPad Pro going to replace my PC after seeing this. Because Microsoft hit all key points on what the Pro is missing in under a minute advertisement.
I would either get an iPad or a Macbook Air depending on what you mean by "majority of software". Only reason I bought a Macbook Pro is to use CAD-software/AdobeCS etc, otherwise I would get the Air.
Edit: Not the Air, I meant the new Macbook
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Microsoft is right. When the iPad gets the ability to manage files and connect to external storage, in straight-forward ways, is when it becomes a computer for me.
This. Very much this. And a ton of people are commenting how the iPad pro is a separate device and if you want the abilities of Macos, you should buy a Mac laptop. Apple advertises the iPad pro as a PC replacement.
Work gave me a Surface 3. I tried to give it back, what a piece of junk. Our IT department went gaga for them because it can run full windows. The thing is barely usable in tablet mode because you're jumping between metro interface and the desktop style interface. Touch targets are often too small. it has the smart keyboard, and sometimes it gets confused between the screen displaying in "Desktop" mode but the software still thinking you're in tablet mode. Such garbage. It's actually somewhat useable if you plug in an external monitor and external mouse and keyboard where it becomes an overpriced underpowered laptop in docking station.
I've done all those things on an iPad (except Alpha values). I just sat through a Visual Communications class that required me to do those things (I didn't have to put it on github, but I can do that).
The only reason, that you can not do those things, is because software doesn't exist. Okay, that's not a failure for an iPad. That's a failure for software development. Could an iPad do all those things? Yes. It has the power.
"I use a specific program to do..."
I can't argue this. Since the iPad has the power, could Adobe make a full photoshop for iPad? I bet yet. It could exist. They choose not to. Your argument is with them.
"I want to do..."
This I can argue.
I outgrew the iPad and bought the best portable computer - the Macbook Air. OS X, can run all the real apps, great battery life and not much bigger than an iPad + keyboard.
Surface is irrelevant. We tried that mistake at the company I work for. They are quite unreliable and really good at nothing. Many that have them want a real computer the next refresh cycle.
Surface is irrelevant. We tried that mistake at the company I work for. They are quite unreliable and really good at nothing. Many that have them want a real computer the next refresh cycle.
iPads still can't handle RAW files. If you import them directly to the iPad any edits will only be applied to the embedded JPEG file which defeats the purpose. What you can do (maybe this is how you do it) is import them to Lightroom on a Mac and create Smart Previews which can then be edited on an iPad with Lightroom Mobile. This is a limitation that is quite disappointing to me. I want to be able to import files directly to the iPad on the go and be able to edit the full data.