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Get over it...the Cloud is gonna take over the internet...no matter what...in the next 5 years if you are not in the cloud you are nobody. The ISPs will have to upgrade the bandwidth...and relax on the caps...

They won't have to upgrade bandwidth, since most municipalities allow a monopoly or a duopoly (at least for cable internet) they have no incentive to upgrade. FIOS had a real chance of upsetting the balance, but Verizon has given up on it, probably due to a lack of ROI.
 
Get over it...the Cloud is gonna take over the internet...no matter what...in the next 5 years if you are not in the cloud you are nobody. The ISPs will have to upgrade the bandwidth...and relax on the caps...

...for higher fees.

You are right about so much of what you wrote above, but you are missing the fee piece. If you are going to connect to this future cloud via 3G/4G/5G (in five years), you'll be paying AT&T or Verizon to do so. They've long been "building out capacity to upgrade the bandwidth" but prices haven't been coming down.

I have little doubt about an abundance of cloud services in the future. I also have little doubt that the connections between us and the cloud- that is, the tolls we have to pay to connect to those clouds- is only going to move in one direction. But you believe what you want.
 
if apple can pull off the marketing, it would be great to merge :apple:TV into the Airport Express Line..

1. Airport Express (router only)
2. Airport Express with :apple:TV
3. Airport Express with :apple:TV + Time Capsule(500GB, 2TB, 3TB) called the Apple TV Personal Cloud Edition :cool:


its becoming ridiculous to have both an apple tv and a time capsule....from a hardware perspective, but im glad i didnt have to shell out more than 99.99 for the apple tv..

Perhaps I'm missing something... Why would I want a router attached to every TV? There is nothing wrong with the aTV as a stand alone device.
 
They won't have to upgrade bandwidth, since most municipalities allow a monopoly or a duopoly (at least for cable internet) they have no incentive to upgrade. FIOS had a real chance of upsetting the balance, but Verizon has given up on it, probably due to a lack of ROI.

And Apple & Google could have become direct competitors for Verizon & AT&T by simply buying up the spectrum freed up recently by the digital TV transition and putting up their own 3G/4G/5G networks. Yet, who was allowed to grab that spectrum? The same old duopoly players.

Now Comcasts, Time Warner, etc observe that people will pay $25 for 2GB caps yet, their selling around 250GB for about $50/month. It's only a matter of time until 250 becomes 125, and 125 becomes 50, etc. Sure, one is wired and another is wireless, but just watch what happens. It's always the same in duopoly/monopoly scenarios.

"Cloud is the future" or not, the real problem (cost) will be in being able to connect to all that perceived goodness anytime and anywhere... while still keeping some money in your pockets.
 
Perhaps I'm missing something... Why would I want a router attached to every TV? There is nothing wrong with the aTV as a stand alone device.

You're not missing anything. Apple isn't going to bundle Apple TV into AEX routers / time capsules - that just makes no sense.

People here just hear the word "iOS" and they start running wild with "what if" possibilities.
 
I think this is pretty clear.

There is going to be a new iTunes server device, call it time capsule, time cloud capsule or whatever, the thing goes like this.

You have your Mac but your iTunes content is in the time capsule, you plays your music steaming from your time capsule, this way the time capsule syncs with the cloud sending all your stuff so you can play it on your iPhone when you are not home and streaming from the time capsule to your apple tv without needing to have the Mac turned on.
 
You're not missing anything. Apple isn't going to bundle Apple TV into AEX routers / time capsules - that just makes no sense. People here just hear the word "iOS" and they start running wild with "what if" possibilities.

I think the "running wild" part goes like this...

If a new time capsule is going to have big storage (or the option for expandable storage)...
If it's going to be your local bridge to the iCloud...
If it's going to possibly be Apple's crack at a NAS device (particularly a central storage iTunes media server) for the masses...
If it's going to be able to stream your iTunes content to your :apple:TV directly (no computer required)...
If it's going to be built on the same hardware platform as the :apple:TV...

...its only the :apple:TV software "app" and a few HD ports away from being able to double as a next-gen :apple:TV.

Personally, I love the idea and hope to see it prove out next week.

I do imagine there will still be thin client :apple:TVs pretty similar to now which can be hooked to other TVs around the house and stream from this central storage.
 
Haven't you heard, we are now in the Post-PC era?

Macs are now officially rubbish and are only used by dinosaurs. :rolleyes:

The thing is, I have spent a lot of money on Apple desktops and laptops.

Now buying a TC worth $$ for wireless sync and backups, sounds absolutely ridiculous.
 
I would love this. But is the A5 fast enough to do routing, serving iTunes, harddisk I/O and HD movie decoding at the same time?

The NAS space is very interesting, it is what all the geeks rave about. Apple has the vision and ability to bring the power of NAS to the masses.

I would suspect the routing and other functions, such as firewall protection, QoS, ect... would be done by a dedicated chipset, as is done with routers now. On top of this will be an iOS powered OS.
 
The thing is, I have spent a lot of money on Apple desktops and laptops.

Now buying a TC worth $$ for wireless sync and backups, sounds absolutely ridiculous.

Nothing has been confirmed yet but if they do introduce those new features get ready with your credit card because you'll have to buy the new hardware.
 
Maybe there are still (a few) people like me. I have an extensive amount of data and I'm not interested in cloud computing, cloud storage, cloud streaming or social network sharing/streaming/whatever.

For we traditionalists I hope Apple doesn't screw up the Time Capsule. My current gen 2TB one works really great. Faster and smarter backup abilities are always appreciated as TCs evolve.

While Apple could probably put 2TB WD RE4 drives in the TC, still charge $499 and still make money I'm not sure that a "real" enterprise drive would be able to keep cool in the TC's pathetically non-cooled case.

The lower spec almost-enterprise drive in mine seems to work fine. For TC's five minutes of operation per hour I'm not sure that a premium grade enterprise drive is really necessary.
 
I think the "running wild" part goes like this...

If a new time capsule is going to have big storage (or the option for expandable storage)...
If it's going to be your local bridge to the iCloud...
If it's going to possibly be Apple's crack at a NAS device (particularly a central storage iTunes media server) for the masses...
If it's going to be able to stream your iTunes content to your :apple:TV directly (no computer required)...
If it's going to be built on the same hardware platform as the :apple:TV...

...its only the :apple:TV software "app" and a few HD ports away from being able to double as a next-gen :apple:TV.

Doubtful. Apple TV with local storage isn't "next gen" - it's going back to the Apple TV 1st Generation model. Don't see Apple going back to that.

And when you say "no computer required".. an iOS Time Capsule with a few local hard disks IS a computer.. albeit a slightly smaller one. I have Mac Mini for that purpose already, and see no benefit whatsoever in replacing it with iOS Time Capsule ;)
 
Oh, RAIDs...

I'd prefer if they offered a mirrored raid option for more data security.

I just had a really expensive RAID drive crash on me, lost both drives. The mirror was useless. Lost the entire online of my film and my post team's weeks of work were lost. Though we had multiple drives for the edit and footage, the online full-rez renders were lost. I have a scarred faith in RAID now. If one does a RAID configuration, i suggest not using a pre-configured RAID in the same housing, as a hardware failure could get both of them, whereas two separate enclosures in RAID configuration should be less vulnerable to that.
 
The thing is, I have spent a lot of money on Apple desktops and laptops.

Now buying a TC worth $$ for wireless sync and backups, sounds absolutely ridiculous.

Really at this point a Time Capsule only makes sense if you A) need a pretty good quality wireless router B) want some external boot drive or data protection and C) don't mind paying a little too much for a great looking Apple device that puts needs A and B together in a small package.
 
I just had a really expensive RAID drive crash on me, lost both drives. The mirror was useless. Lost the entire online of my film and my post team's weeks of work were lost. Though we had multiple drives for the edit and footage, the online full-rez renders were lost. I have a scarred faith in RAID now. If one does a RAID configuration, i suggest not using a pre-configured RAID in the same housing, as a hardware failure could get both of them, whereas two separate enclosures in RAID configuration should be less vulnerable to that.

RAID isn't, itself, a back-up system. The non-replicated components may crash. But the odds of the system board or power supply giving out are about the same for a RAID box vs. a non-RAID box. RAID merely provides drive redundancy. You should always back up your RAID (unless the RAID is, itself, a backup of something else).
 
I expected exactly this, and can't wait for Monday.

I'd love to replace my Airport Express, Time Capsule and Windows Home Server with something along these lines.

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Add an HDMI and miniDisplay Port to it and WOW!!!!

Apple had seven years to add an audio out port to their Airport Extremes and Time Capsules (the audio transmission technology started with the Airport Express in 2004). They didn't, why add an audio port to it when you sell another $99 device that has an audio port?
 
A5 is going to be required on the Apple TV for full 1080

But the A5 would appear to be overkill for something like a router, unless Apple has some interesting plans for it. I can think of a number of interesting possibilities this would create, particularly as the time capsule has large amounts of storage.

A time capsule is something which you would usually leave connected to the internet almost all of the time. So perhaps this has closer links to iCloud. You buy music from the 'cloud' and that is streamed to your phone, but is automatically cached or synced with the new time capsule? Maybe you can put content on your TC and make that available to other iOS devices via iCloud?

Mac with iTunes > Time Capsule > iCloud > iPhone running iOS 5?
 
Apple had seven years to add an audio out port to their Airport Extremes and Time Capsules (the audio transmission technology started with the Airport Express in 2004). They didn't, why add an audio port to it when you sell another $99 device that has an audio port?

The Marvell 88F6281 1.2 GHz "Kirkwood" board used in the latest AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule has even got built in audio so there was no reason they couldn't have added it.
 
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If the Time Capsule becomes a true iTunes server which allows access both from within your local network (to your Macs/PCs/Apple TVs) AND externally over the internet (i.e. the "cloud" to your iPhone/iPad/iPod touch) then it will be the product for which I have been waiting on for the last several years.

True, the existing products (AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule) allowed simple file sharing even over the internet when using MobileMe, but the integration with iTunes (or lack thereof) and the quality of the user experience definitely left something to be desired.

Here's what I said in Dec 2009:
Apple's recent purchase of LaLa and their plan to build a one billion dollar server farm in NC are only the beginnings. Streaming media is the future of the entertainment industry and that's where Apple wants to go. Frankly, I think it is a possibility that Apple is looking at ways to reduce the cost of the Apple TV rather than making it multi-functional and even more expensive. What they may offer is a diskless, streaming-only player that will require an always on connection to your computer or an interface to an Apple produced, standalone iTunes server (something like Apple's Time Capsule).

This could be a huge development and it literally boggles the mind that Apple hasn't already introduced an iTunes server that could be accessed from anywhere you had a Mac or iOS device. Integrate this with the rumored iCloud service and you'll have the best of both worlds, Apple-hosted storage for all of your iTunes Store content and your own iTunes server at home for everything else (i.e. CD rips, DVD rips*, etc.).

*converted to H.264 with either iTunes or Handbrake.
 
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I still don't really understand the point of the cloud. I want my data on my hard drive. Streamed or synced is fine... Last thing I need is someone accessing my stuff, or me depending on wifi/3G speed and presence for my stuff.

I've never seen anything the cloud can do that a little foresight, know how and a backup drive cant. And I'm pretty sure everyone should have those three things.
 
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