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Please Apple don't announce it for iOS 18 if its going to be released a month or two before iOS 19 that's so annoying
 
Will this be limited to iPhone 16 pro? I’m about to jump on a 15 for free through my carrier but as soon as I do, I’ll find out this is limited to a phone I don’t have when I could have just kept my 14 for another year.
Doubtful unless they're doing it all on device.
 
Only Apple would make this a premium offering. You must buy their $1000+ phone AND have a recurring subscription to get a voice assistant that can do the basics.
AI on iPhones will most certainly "require" a new co-processor chip, named something like "Intelligence Engine", and thus force you get an iPhone 16 or newer (or 17, or any other model beyond 15, if that's the one that gets it).

It's going to be "on-device", so that they don't rely on a server. And, more importantly, on-device so it can roll out several many generations of it over the coming years, having the AI improve on subsequent iPhone models.

It'll be a lot like "resetting" all the progress Apple has made to the iPhone CPU over the years, with big leaps between each iteration of the "Intelligence Engine" co-processor chip.
 
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I miss the value of owning a function in perpetuity. Yesterday the DICTIONARY didn’t have a word I needed to look up, but offered the souped up dictionary with that definition and more for a small yearly subscription fee.

Endless subscription services are a capitalistic evil we must escape. How can we kill this cancer?

We kill them by refusing to sign up for them. The problem is that there are too many people who will.
 
Apple will make it extremely limited because it's all going to be "on-device".

But more importantly, it's going to very limited so that Apple can gradually test it and upgrade it over several many generations of up-coming iPhones, forcing consumers to upgrade to get the latest "Intelligence Engine" co-processor chip that we'll see from iPhones 16 or 17 and beyond.

The main iPhone CPU is stagnating in upgrades. So shifting focus to AI and this new co-processor is a great way to revitalize sales and convince even those with iPhones 13, 14 or 15 to upgrade despite very minimal upgrades to the main iPhone CPU.
 
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And not doubt iOS18 will limit generative Siri to Apple apps and that "magically" open it up to developers in iOS19...
As opposed to rushing out an API with bugs and security holes? No thanks. Generative AI is just too important and data is too sensitive to risk. Apple's steady iterations have made them the multi-trillion dollar company they are today and trusted worldwide.
 
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99% of the people concerned about the differences between synthetic and real voices are the ones in the voice talent industry. Yes, it’s a real concern, but most people just don’t care that much.

When desktop publishing allowed anyone to create without hiring an artist, I’m sure artists were upset. Democratizing access to previously inaccessible services is one of the main benefits of technology in general.

in the early 1980's, the Musicians Union here in the UK, tried to ban synthesisers and drum machines, as they were starting to sound too much like real musicians playing real instruments. It sounds ridiculous now, and look how that turned out for them. A lot of the concerns about AI now are very similar to concerns that people had about technology 40 years ago.
 
I miss the value of owning a function in perpetuity. Yesterday the DICTIONARY didn’t have a word I needed to look up, but offered the souped up dictionary with that definition and more for a small yearly subscription fee.

Endless subscription services are a capitalistic evil we must escape. How can we kill this cancer?
Depends on the function? Do I want to own an appliance in perpetuity? Probably. But not technology. Hardware and software changes too quickly. As soon as you buy most cutting edge hardware, it's almost obsolete or at least too obsolete to run the any near future software. I prefer subscriptions for most content and sometimes even hardware too. But I also earn a living using technology so I am heavily incentivized to upgrade with more frequency.
 
The Siri brand has good name recognition but is it a brand that people actually like? If Apple actually come up with their uber nextgen AI then maybe it could do with being called something else.
 
Apple will make it extremely limited because it's all going to be "on-device".

But more importantly, it's going to very limited so that Apple can gradually test it and upgrade it over several many generations of up-coming iPhones, forcing consumers to upgrade to get the latest "Intelligence Engine" co-processor chip that we'll see from iPhones 16 or 17 and beyond.

The main iPhone CPU is stagnating in upgrades. So shifting focus to AI and this new co-processor is a great way to revitalize sales and convince even those with iPhones 13, 14 or 15 to upgrade despite very minimal upgrades to the main iPhone CPU.

This is what I was thinking too. They will save money by not having to run LLMs on GPU powered clouds. And they will market it as a privacy focused SLM (small language model) that runs on your own device.
 
If Siri 2.0 gets announced at WWDC, I don’t think that they’ll showcase a technology that relies on hardware not yet announced. Basically, I don’t think that they’ll show off new 16 lineup-exclusive features when the 16 won’t yet be introduced. If anything, they’ll have to introduce the iPhone 16s at WWDC or, more likely than that, introduce the A18 chip family.

Edit for clearness: I doubt they’ll unveil Siri 2.0 with it being exclusive to the iPhone 16 at WWDC, considering the phones haven’t been introduced yet at that point. It seems unlikely to showcase features for a product that’s not officially launched, almost like revealing a preview of the iPhone 16 five months in advance.
Will this be limited to iPhone 16 pro? I’m about to jump on a 15 for free through my carrier but as soon as I do, I’ll find out this is limited to a phone I don’t have when I could have just kept my 14 for another year.
 
“AI features may differ based on subscription service status”.

Well of course! Timmy needs a new insert expensive toy here.
 
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With our newest A series bionic chip with breakthrough machine learning and LLM, Siri can now generate 3 trillion ways to say "Here is what I found on the web" in 1/10000 of a second, all done on-device.

And that's Siri. Back to you Tim.
 
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Will this be limited to iPhone 16 pro? I’m about to jump on a 15 for free through my carrier but as soon as I do, I’ll find out this is limited to a phone I don’t have when I could have just kept my 14 for another year.
I doubt this would happen. What could the iPhone 16 Pro have that the iPhone 15 doesn't which lets it run an LLM locally? I think this LLM stuff is going to happen on Apple's servers and you'll get basic Siri that can barely text someone when you're offline. There's no way an iPhone can run an LLM and not run super hot and drain the battery.
 
Makes sense, but language models could be slowly introduced in just certain types of queries. I imagine we will get the ability to ask about current events with Apple News+.
True, but I’m personally hoping for something broader. I think Siri is good most of the time with specific inquiries; but fails often on follow-up/contextual inquiries. I’m hoping that llm capability will improve Siri contextual inference and finally allow users to have non-trivial conversations about a particular topic.

Unfortunately I don’t think this will stop Siri from playing hip hop music 50% of the time when I ask it to “play podcast NBC Meet The Press.” 😏
 
Come on Apple!
Get it right this time.
Please.

Example:

A day or so before christmas I had to go to collect our Christmas bird at the butchers.
I asked Siri, what time I had to go and collect.

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Oh honestly!
The clue, dear Siri Apple is in the address.

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Siri fails completely at these contextual clues that I have to admit Alexa does exceptionally well.

I truly hope Apple get this sorted.

Right now I only use Siri to set timers.
What a waste.
And the sad part is, unless something has changed in a recent update, your expensive iPhone (and mine) can only have one timer running. Whereas my $30 Alexa in the kitchen can have multiple.
 
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Will this be limited to iPhone 16 pro? I’m about to jump on a 15 for free through my carrier but as soon as I do, I’ll find out this is limited to a phone I don’t have when I could have just kept my 14 for another year.
Probably NOT limited to iPhone 16

Lets assume this rumor is correct and they are going to announce at WWDC. That means a Beta in July-September where this will be tested. Best phone Apple will have by that point is iPhone 15. They're not going to finish testing the iOS 18 Beta on iPhone 15s, release the iPhone 16, then retroactively disable it from iPhone 15.
 
Probably NOT limited to iPhone 16

Lets assume this rumor is correct and they are going to announce at WWDC. That means a Beta in July-September where this will be tested. Best phone Apple will have by that point is iPhone 15. They're not going to finish testing the iOS 18 Beta on iPhone 15s, release the iPhone 16, then retroactively disable it from iPhone 15.
I am hoping that any phone or device with the neural engine will be able to run the Siri updates. But your logic makes perfect sense.
 
Apple is purportedly working on linkages for the new version of Siri to connect to various external services, likely via an API. Finally, the report suggests that some of Apple's new AI features may differ based on subscription service status, but it is unclear what shape this could take.
I wonder how the lack of a web browser will impact a more capable version of Siri for tvOS? The device could stand increased fact finding related to content.
 
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