New Video by the bendgate guy (he looks mad)

[rhylin]

New Video by the bendgate guy (he looks mad)

Free speech? Interesting angle.



Thing is? You're not an expert and even if you were it wouldn't matter. No one here has a corner on objectivity. Your opinion on the matter carries no more or less weight than anyone else's. However, that's not true of the comparison between CR and the bendgate guy. Between the two one is a more authoritative source and it isn't the one that's some random guy with a YouTube account. You can argue your viewpoint until you're blue in the face, but that dynamic between these two sources is never going to change.

In just referencing what you said, I'd actually take user input over a "professional" critics critique any day of the week

 

[Bahroo]

Struggling to sell is a complete stretch, it's selling in record numbers, but you have to consider with the recent press it is on the mind of the new consumer

This "bendgate" isnt gonna change much, Apple is still going to sell record number amount of iPhones and everyone will love them lol

 

[Surf Monkey]

In just referencing what you said, I'd actually take user input over a "professional" critics critique any day of the week

Because every instance of "user input" is objective and every "professional" is suspect, even professionals with decades long records of testing and evaluating consumer goods.

Good luck with that argument. I stand by my comment.

 

[rhylin]

New Video by the bendgate guy (he looks mad)

Because every instance of "user input" is objective and every "professional" is suspect, even professionals with decades long records of testing and evaluating consumer goods.



Good luck with that argument. I stand by my comment.

Decades long testing and evaluating just sets up more bias viewpoints, give me user input where he/she doesn't have to worry about what he/she writes, especially in this day an age where if you don't agree with "big brother" it can get you fined or fired.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Decades long testing and evaluating just sets up more bias viewpoints, give me user input where he/she doesn't have to worry about what he/she writes.

Okay. You go with that.

 

[booksbooks]

Free speech? Interesting angle.

Thing is? You're not an expert and even if you were it wouldn't matter. No one here has a corner on objectivity. Your opinion on the matter carries no more or less weight than anyone else's. However, that's not true of the comparison between CR and the bendgate guy. Between the two one is a more authoritative source and it isn't the one that's some random guy with a YouTube account. You can argue your viewpoint until you're blue in the face, but that dynamic between these two sources is never going to change.

You want to play? Let's play.

CR makes money and they need to make money to support their operations. They put a video up on the Internet. The guy who posted the video of bending the iPhone: he may also make money. What the guy did who posted that video was he created a video where he had no idea what income he would derive from it. It may not have gone viral at all. He's not a business in the sense that CR is.

Nobody has legitimately "debunked" the guy on YouTube. In fact, all the evidence is pointing to it being true and correct. You can see people on this forum posting about bent iPhones and trying to return them. While we can't verify all of these, it's up to others to disprove any of it.

Weren't you the same people attacking Consumer Reports some years back when they bashed the iPhone 4? Wait, you were! They said don't buy the iPhone 4 yet sort of contradicted themselves by saying it was the best smartphone.

http://www.businessinsider.com/consumer-reports-discovers-bashing-apple-is-great-linkbait-2010-7

Now you're trying to support them because what? Because you're delusional and contradict yourself. What the CR test shows is that the new iPhones scored abysmally on the controlled bend test. The CR test is not a real world test because of how controlled it is: the primary force is not placed on the supposed weak spot. But regardless, the iPhones scored abysmally and much less than the iPhone 5.

And with that: take your iPhone 6 Plus or get one, and try and bend it. Do it. Or else zip it. If the iPhone 6 Plus is so strong and durable and if all of this stuff about it bending is some plot to destroy your precious Apple, then bend the phone. What are you waiting for? Right, I thought so.

 

[GoSh4rks]

For all your conspiracy theorists:

Is this faked too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-DcUASffHU

 

[TroyBoy30]

There is no doubt you can bend any phone if you try. You cannot bend it under normal conditions though. Sitting on it or sitting with it in your skinny Jeans is not normal conditions. I've had my plus in my pants pocket daily with no issues. I wear cargo pants and cargo shorts though.

 

[AppleHater]

You want to play? Let's play.

CR makes money and they need to make money to support their operations. They put a video up on the Internet. The guy who posted the video of bending the iPhone: he may also make money. What the guy did who posted that video was he created a video where he had no idea what income he would derive from it. It may not have gone viral at all. He's not a business in the sense that CR is.

Nobody has legitimately "debunked" the guy on YouTube. In fact, all the evidence is pointing to it being true and correct. You can see people on this forum posting about bent iPhones and trying to return them. While we can't verify all of these, it's up to others to disprove any of it.

Weren't you the same people attacking Consumer Reports some years back when they bashed the iPhone 4? Wait, you were! They said don't buy the iPhone 4 yet sort of contradicted themselves by saying it was the best smartphone.

http://www.businessinsider.com/consumer-reports-discovers-bashing-apple-is-great-linkbait-2010-7

Now you're trying to support them because what? Because you're delusional and contradict yourself. What the CR test shows is that the new iPhones scored abysmally on the controlled bend test. The CR test is not a real world test because of how controlled it is: the primary force is not placed on the supposed weak spot. But regardless, the iPhones scored abysmally and much less than the iPhone 5.

And with that: take your iPhone 6 Plus or get one, and try and bend it. Do it. Or else zip it. If the iPhone 6 Plus is so strong and durable and if all of this stuff about it bending is some plot to destroy your precious Apple, then bend the phone. What are you waiting for? Right, I thought so.

Do you even have a phone 6/6+? If not, why you so mad?

 

[rkuo]

There is no doubt you can bend any phone if you try. You cannot bend it under normal conditions though. Sitting on it or sitting with it in your skinny Jeans is not normal conditions. I've had my plus in my pants pocket daily with no issues. I wear cargo pants and cargo shorts though.

so what? The question isn't whether a phone bends, it's how easily. And the iPhone 6 series looks to be the weakest of the lot. Is that necessary or overblown? I haven't seen any real proof that the tested strength is strong enough.

 

[booksbooks]

For all your conspiracy theorists:

Is this faked too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-DcUASffHU

Of course they'll say it's fake and attack you. It's getting stupid already. The evidence that there's a structural weakness is starting to become overwhelming.

To everyone who is delusional enough that they can't believe it: post a video of yourself bending the phone in like manner and show us that it doesn't bend. Until then, bu bye.

 

[matttye]

Aluminium bends? Well you learn something new every day...

 

[movieator]

Bend Guy angry.

Bend Guy SMASH!!!

 

[accountforit]

If he is 100% concerned with proving its not faked, why not put together a video that proves it? It wouldn't be that hard. The fact is, the phone panned off camera. You can't deny that.

Very true. However, I wouldn't care who thinks it's fake if I were him. This guy just got paid. His original video has almost 44 million views thus far.

 

[bozzykid]

My point is CR used actual instruments to measure at what pressure certain mobile phones bend. This jagoff just used brute force.

So how does that matter at all? He obviously didn't need herculean strength. The fact is, the 6+ has a pretty weak spot that can cause the phone to bend should enough pressure be put on it. I don't know why this is making people so upset. It is just a fact. I'm sure Apple will deal with it.

 

[matttye]

So how does that matter at all? He obviously didn't need herculean strength. The fact is, the 6+ has a pretty weak spot that can cause the phone to bend should enough pressure be put on it. I don't know why this is making people so upset. It is just a fact. I'm sure Apple will deal with it.

I don't think it's the fact that it bends that's annoying people, it's more the fact that people are suggesting that it's anything but user error causing the phones to bend.

 

[bozzykid]

I don't think it's the fact that it bends that's annoying people, it's more the fact that people are suggesting that it's anything but user error causing the phones to bend.

Well what is user error? If people use these phones the same way they used the iPhone 5 is it still user error if it bends? It is just a question of how Apple is going to deal with it. People getting so defensive trying to put down the guy for making a video is just senseless.

 

[Surf Monkey]

You want to play? Let's play.

CR makes money and they need to make money to support their operations. They put a video up on the Internet. The guy who posted the video of bending the iPhone: he may also make money. What the guy did who posted that video was he created a video where he had no idea what income he would derive from it. It may not have gone viral at all. He's not a business in the sense that CR is.

Nobody has legitimately "debunked" the guy on YouTube. In fact, all the evidence is pointing to it being true and correct. You can see people on this forum posting about bent iPhones and trying to return them. While we can't verify all of these, it's up to others to disprove any of it.

Weren't you the same people attacking Consumer Reports some years back when they bashed the iPhone 4? Wait, you were! They said don't buy the iPhone 4 yet sort of contradicted themselves by saying it was the best smartphone.

http://www.businessinsider.com/consumer-reports-discovers-bashing-apple-is-great-linkbait-2010-7

Now you're trying to support them because what? Because you're delusional and contradict yourself. What the CR test shows is that the new iPhones scored abysmally on the controlled bend test. The CR test is not a real world test because of how controlled it is: the primary force is not placed on the supposed weak spot. But regardless, the iPhones scored abysmally and much less than the iPhone 5.

And with that: take your iPhone 6 Plus or get one, and try and bend it. Do it. Or else zip it. If the iPhone 6 Plus is so strong and durable and if all of this stuff about it bending is some plot to destroy your precious Apple, then bend the phone. What are you waiting for? Right, I thought so.

Not surprisingly, none of this actually changes my observation at all. Your opinion is still no more or less valid than anyone else's here. CR still holds a better reputation than a guy on YouTube.

As to bending the phone, why would I allow someone to goad me into attempting to bend it? I'm sure it can be bent. That's not the issue. What it is is a red herring.

 

[matttye]

Well what is user error? If people use these phones the same way they used the iPhone 5 is it still user error if it bends? It is just a question of how Apple is going to deal with it. People getting so defensive trying to put down the guy for making a video is just senseless.

It depends. If they sat on the iPhone 5 then it is still user error if they sit on the 6.

Past stupidity does not justify ongoing stupidity.

Likewise with any kind of subjecting the phone to pressure eg by keeping it in pockets whilst bending over (for example stretching / working out).

 

[Surf Monkey]

Well what is user error? If people use these phones the same way they used the iPhone 5 is it still user error if it bends? It is just a question of how Apple is going to deal with it. People getting so defensive trying to put down the guy for making a video is just senseless.

If you knowingly try to bend it, that's user error. I think we can all agree on that point. If you use it just like you used your previous iPhone and it bends then I'd say you have a legitimate issue and should take it back. The problem with many of these bent phone stories is that I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that phones are bending under normal circumstances.

 

[matttye]

If you knowingly try to bend it, that's user error. I think we can all agree on that point. If you use it just like you used your previous iPhone and it bends then I'd say you have a legitimate issue and should take it back. The problem with many of these bent phone stories is that I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that phones are bending under normal circumstances.

Even if they are bending under circumstances in which previous IPhones didn't bend, that just means that both were used incorrectly and it was lucky that previous iPhones didn't bend.

The 6 and 6+ are thinner so likely to be more vulnerable. Especially the 6+ as it has a wider surface area.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Even if they are bending under circumstances in which previous IPhones didn't bend, that just means that both were used incorrectly and it was lucky that previous iPhones didn't bend.

The 6 and 6+ are thinner so likely to be more vulnerable. Especially the 6+ as it has a wider surface area.

I'd say that's also a reasonable statement. Notice I said take it to an Apple Store, not to expect a replacement. IF this is actually happening with any frequency Apple should know about it and should be allowed to inspect the units. Whether or not they elect to replace or refund phones? Their call.

 

[booksbooks]

Not surprisingly, none of this actually changes my observation at all. Your opinion is still no more or less valid than anyone else's here. CR still holds a better reputation than a guy on YouTube.

As to bending the phone, why would I allow someone to goad me into attempting to bend it? I'm sure it can be bent. That's not the issue. What it is is a red herring.

CR has no more credibility than the other guy posting videos on the Internet. It's a guy posting a video bending a phone just like the other guy who posts videos of consumer electronics. CR could have been paid by Apple or otherwise. In other words, CR is subject to the same ridicule and scrutiny compared to anything and everything else.

The fact that you and me were not there makes it impossible to reach any consensus on either of the tests, which makes it a wash.

But I'm not attacking credibility, you are, and that's a red herring.

My posts and comments are reasoned and rationale. The shear number of videos now showing how easily the phone bends is impossible to ignore. There's also a sound theory that's fits to explain it.

Your post here adds nothing to this topic.

 

[Surf Monkey]

You

CR has no more credibility than the other guy posting videos on the Internet. It's a guy posting a video bending a phone just like the other guy who posts videos of consumer electronics. CR could have been paid by Apple or otherwise. In other words, CR is subject to the same ridicule and scrutiny compared to anything and everything else.

The fact that you and me were not there makes it impossible to reach any consensus on either of the tests, which makes it a wash.

But I'm not attacking credibility, you are, and that's a red herring.

My posts and comments are reasoned and rationale. The shear number of videos now showing how easily the phone bends is impossible to ignore. There's also a sound theory that's fits to explain it.

Your post here adds nothing to this topic.

I mean, I'd say my argument stands on its own merits. Personally I wouldn't characterize yours as rational or reasonable at all. It seems to be based on conspiracy theories, generalized distrust of any authority and a tit for tat attempt to blame me for the faulty line of rhetorical attack you've been using all along. Speaks for itself, really. My comments stand. You don't have a corner on objectivity and you should probably stop pretending you do. You're welcome to express your opinion but don't try to snow people into thinking yours is unassailable. It isn't. No one's here is.

 

[Zxxv]

didn't take long