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You mean the results from Consumer Reports, a far more reputable source than some guy on YouTube?

"The results showed that the 6 Plus was actually stronger than the iPhone 6, starting to deform at 90 pounds of force and having its screen and case separate at 110 pounds of force. The iPhone 6 started to deform at 70 pounds of force and started coming apart at 100 pounds of force. "

Those results you mean?

The results of other phones has nothing - I repeat, nothing - to do with the result of the 6+. How in the world do you look at your argument and conclude it's a worthwhile response?

Consumer Reports also didn't appear to test the identified weak point of the 6+.
 
How do we know the iPhone in the video wasn't tampered with beforehand? Consumer Reports just did a video contradicting this video. He could have opened that iPhone up beforehand and sabotaged the internal structure. Anything to make a buck right? :rolleyes:

but i think that dude did a new video live in downtown toronto in front of witnesses who watched him unbox it. its up on the same guys channel who did all those other ones...man i wonder how he gets all those phones to bend while others wait 1.5 months for one? youtube must be paying him so much with all these views that he actually profits by buying overpriced iphone 6p's just to bend!!!

its insane!

but i also dont think its a conspiracy, and i do think it WILL bend if you bend it. just seems like science to me. so people should just try to treat this like every single other phone they have ever had in the past & NOT INTENTIONALLY BEND IT.

or get a case.
 
It's very strange that this guy is then advertising the Moto X...

How is he advertising for Moto X? Is he also advertising for Note 3 in his other video? M8? etc? It's just simply another phone he had close to him.
 
New Video of Bend Test Iphone 6 +

How is he advertising for Moto X? Is he also advertising for Note 3 in his other video? M8? etc? It's just simply another phone he had close to him.


Funny his YouTube vid has a video ad for the Moto X lol
 
Structural mechanical simulation of bending the iPhone 6:

http://youtu.be/h6Q8TCv1ARI

With simulations like this, design iterations can be tested tested very fast. Physical testing serves as validation for the simulation. This is everyday work in any modern engineering.

Considering Apple's resources, they probably have done a lot of simulation and used the best available tools. They know how easily the phone breaks and yet they have guts to put millions of pieces out.
 
This video is from the same one that publish the original video.

I think that customers deserve the best and because of this Apple need to make stronger the iphone 6 +

Apple customers deserve the best always

Have no nerv to read the entire thread but am sure someone should have pointed before me that the guy is professional FRAUD! He takes what is supposed to be unused/sealed phone out of the box, which turns out that in fact it was an activated phone, which means it was a phone that he messed with prior to test or simply a Chinese cloned phone. I feel sorry for anyone who believes what this con man says, and am sure time will uncover the truth about this.
 
How is he advertising for Moto X? Is he also advertising for Note 3 in his other video? M8? etc? It's just simply another phone he had close to him.

Basic observation of his human behavior during the video when he starts talking about it. Just listen to his voice intonation, his facial expression and all gestures, obviously he likes that phone better, and it clearly shows.

The iPhone 6+ may be easier to bent than other phones, whatever... and his behavior in the video doesn't change that fact....but it shows that he is clearly biased in that video.
 
Structural mechanical simulation of bending the iPhone 6:

http://youtu.be/h6Q8TCv1ARI

With simulations like this, design iterations can be tested tested very fast. Physical testing serves as validation for the simulation. This is everyday work in any modern engineering.

Considering Apple's resources, they probably have done a lot of simulation and used the best available tools. They know how easily the phone breaks and yet they have guts to put millions of pieces out.

Finite Element Analysis is a nice tool to virtually design and test things.
However it relies heavily on the person planning the simulation and the parameters chosen and assumptions made. I bet Apple has certain standards but also they are very people trust kind of organization that if things get done they are assumed to work because they have great professionals standing behind their work.
Anyway this type of analysis are also prone to garbage in -> garbage out kind of results.

Do you know if the video that you are making reference is for the aluminum case only? It might not have all the structural support that the real part has.
My point is that a simulation for a component only versus a simulation/analysis with the whole iPhone assembly is another animal and the environmental parameters that may affect the behavior of the materials and their interfaces are always tricky to simulate when various type of materials and kind of bonds are present, as well as the fiber orientation and material structures.

Meshing and assumptions are also key.

The display may be an integral part of the stiffness model and how it is bonded to the rest is what may drive different results.

The virtual world not always represent very well real life behavior, even some are very close and work fine with the risk level that can be accepted.

The eternal cycle of modifying the model to match real life testing is part of this type of analysis.

A material flaw in real life can enable failures to a stress-deformation -> bent condition like this. So far it isn't clear until some insiders let us know or someone makes a deeper case to analyze this.

Wanted or not, Apple may start to include a test case to satisfy preventing or creating all this media frenzy. Either way they always capitalize on the free advertising they are getting.

It's nicer to discuss something technical like this in the thread, instead of all the nonsense that sometimes derails the discussion to the kill the messenger attitude that takes place...
 
Ummmm, they tested other phones dude. Read up and learn something.

https://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/26/consumer-reports-iphone6-bend-test/

So who is being the blind fanboy here? Go watch the video and see how many excuses you can come up with on why a random internet dude is so much smarter than Consumer Reports.

Again citing irrelevant information. No test results of any other phone have any impact on how the 6+ fared in the same test.

The "logic" of your response is the equivalent of, "I may've murdered that person, your honor, but John over there murdered some too, so I shouldn't get in trouble for it."

Consumer Reports also didn't test the identified weak point that has every Apple Store 6+ display unit in the country looking like a banana right now. As much as you close your eyes, cover your ears and scream "FAKE" over the cacophony of complaints, you're doing nothing to stem the tide of them rolling in. It's an issue, and the root cause is something Consumer Reports did not test.

But, by all means, spend the entire second day of your weekend nonsensically defending Apple as you did the first.
 
Lol, no one thought it was faked. He clearly bends an iPhone. The reason everyone is annoyed, is because he uses his hands. it'll bend, use a real world test in the pockets and then see if the results are news worthy, and the reason there hasn't been any stories and videos of it actually bending in the pockets is because it doesn't
 
Instead of going into an in depth debate over the validity of YouTube videos or tests on the iPhone bending, I'd much rather here from fellow iPhone 6 Plus users who have their phones like mine subjected to the REAL test it will be exposed to during everyday use.

I've had mine for 5 days and actually got it the day before I found out about bendgate so since then I have been reluctant to leave it in my pocket except while walking. I did have to keep it in my front pocket for two hours during a football match and it was absolutely fine! So if it has no problems there then I don't see how it'll ever be subjected to more force than that?! Except if it stayed in my pocket for a long time and it got hot then it may become more susceptible to bending.

So I would like to hear what other 6 Plus users are experiencing? We heard 10 complained to apple but if that is 10 out of 10 million then I'm not gonna be worried lol
 
But, by all means, spend the entire second day of your weekend nonsensically defending Apple as you did the first.


You mean like you'll spend yours hating on the iPhone? Ok.

You can dismiss the Consumer Reports tests all you I like. But who is being nonsensical? You have the manufacturer and a professional, independent review company on one side, and a random dude with a fake YouTube video on the other. And you decide to hate on Apple based on the dude.

Brilliant!

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...I'd much rather here from fellow iPhone 6 Plus users who have their phones like mine subjected to the REAL test it will be exposed to during everyday use.


Unfortunately I can't sit on mine. I weigh 240 lbs, and according to the Consumer Reports test, it will bend at 90. So either I'll go on a diet, or I'll avoid sitting on it.
 
Do you mean sit on it with the phone in your back pocket? I personally would never do that or want to do that, even if I weighed less than 90 pounds!

What about sitting with it in your front pocket for long periods of time?
 
Instead of going into an in depth debate over the validity of YouTube videos or tests on the iPhone bending, I'd much rather here from fellow iPhone 6 Plus users who have their phones like mine subjected to the REAL test it will be exposed to during everyday use.



I've had mine for 5 days and actually got it the day before I found out about bendgate so since then I have been reluctant to leave it in my pocket except while walking. I did have to keep it in my front pocket for two hours during a football match and it was absolutely fine! So if it has no problems there then I don't see how it'll ever be subjected to more force than that?! Except if it stayed in my pocket for a long time and it got hot then it may become more susceptible to bending.



So I would like to hear what other 6 Plus users are experiencing? We heard 10 complained to apple but if that is 10 out of 10 million then I'm not gonna be worried lol


Like you because of the the rumors I've been reluctant to put my plus in my pocket, but I have several times. I have a leather apple case on it. I've only had the phone for 3 days, although it feels fragile in my pocket because of its height and thinness it has stood firm and still flat :D
 
What about sitting with it in your front pocket for long periods of time?


That's where I carry mine, but I don't wear tight pants. If I wore tight pants and ANYTHING in my pocket created 90 lbs of resistance, I'd probably be removing it. I value my skin highly.
 
You mean like you'll spend yours hating on the iPhone? Ok.

You can dismiss the Consumer Reports tests all you I like. But who is being nonsensical? You have the manufacturer and a professional, independent review company on one side, and a random dude with a fake YouTube video on the other. And you decide to hate on Apple based on the dude.

Peace!!!

Brilliant!

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Unfortunately I can't sit on mine. I weigh 240 lbs, and according to the Consumer Reports test, it will bend at 90. So either I'll go on a diet, or I'll avoid sitting on it.

If you got off MR for a while and stopped defending Apple over the "Bending" issue, I guarantee you could loose a few pounds ;)

Having followed the Bendgate for a week, I remember your saying you were not an apologist. Mate! you win a gold star for you efforts this week. Amazing effort!
 
You mean like you'll spend yours hating on the iPhone? Ok.

You can dismiss the Consumer Reports tests all you I like. But who is being nonsensical? You have the manufacturer and a professional, independent review company on one side, and a random dude with a fake YouTube video on the other. And you decide to hate on Apple based on the dude.

Brilliant!

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Unfortunately I can't sit on mine. I weigh 240 lbs, and according to the Consumer Reports test, it will bend at 90. So either I'll go on a diet, or I'll avoid sitting on it.


I don't understand the whole thing with putting phones in the back pocket, letting alone sit on them. I didn't even know it was that big of an occurrence until these rumors came out . Sound stupid to me to sit on a device you pay so much for

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If you got off MR for a while and stopped defending Apple over the "Bending" issue, I guarantee you could loose a few pounds ;)

Having followed the Bendgate for a week, I remember your saying you were not an apologist. Mate! you win a gold star for you efforts this week. Amazing effort!


Are you here just to trash apple? Do you even have an iPhone plus? I do and my phone is fine despite daily use. I can promise I don't plan on clutching my phone and bending the crap out of it like the guy in the video did because that is not realistic use and stupid... But yeah if you take a thin **** of aluminum and try to bend it of course it will bend. I don't need a video to see that
 
New Video of Bend Test Iphone 6 +

Having followed the Bendgate for a week, I remember your saying you were not an apologist. Mate! you win a gold star for you efforts this week. Amazing effort!


If believing a fake video from a random internet dude over Consumer Reports is what it takes to not be called an Apple apologist, then an apologist I am.

You realize your irrational arguments against Apple actually undermine any possibility of addressing REAL issues. The ones that really matter, not the ones people invent for profit or hate.
 
How about this... The bend videos all have one thing in common... Pressure is applied to the aluminium back, whilst supporting/pulling back on the screen. This is a similar situation to the phone being in a pocket with the aluminium back against your thigh. So...

JUST TURN THE PHONE AROUND. Put the glass against your thigh and use your pockets again!

I own a regular 6 and already do this, just in case. If owned a 6+ I'd do the same.

I'm not siding with either argument. All I'm saying is... Just in case.

This is what I do with my 6 plus.

I've sat in my car with it that way, and with my jeans the phone has room and I only feel slight pressure. Not enough to convince me the phone is in any danger. Especially with the glass side facing my leg.
 
That's the flaw of your argument right there. You don't stand on the hood of your car. You don't intentionally bend your phone. Use common sense.
Come back to me when you can prove the phone bent under normal daily condition.

Washington Post: No, you probably can’t bend the iPhone 6 Plus. Unless you’re a bodybuilder.

Does he look like a bodybuilder to you?
http://youtu.be/h-DcUASffHU?list=PLlPg4PRAUWoeqnKCHMnWN4XdQXwWcLMrg

The pressure required to bend it is not very large. He says "It is very easy to bend". He isn't able to bend a Samsung Note 3 with all his force.
 
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No way either of the videos are real.

Look how he's holding the phone; always in the middle, as though he doesn't want it to fall apart.


Ans even so, the phone seemingly on purpose goes out of the camera shot, just before he bends it like butter.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but no way was it done in either of those videos.
 
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