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New Video Pits iPhone Click Wheel Prototype Against Scott Forstall's Icon-Based iPhone Prototype
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Isn't that when it also started becoming less stable? I'm trying to remember when I started noticing the crashes and glitches and trying to remember which iOS people started complaining about. ? P???
????? Myself, I like Android a lot. And I like iOS. I can't say I entirely like it when iOS tries to be more like Android, though. I think iOS 10 with all of its widgets feels a bit messy and I've had to really work to get used to it.
There was never any master plan. Forstall was fired because he stepped on one too many toes and Cook is all about streamlining and stability, being the operations guy that he is. Jobs was eager to preserve the fragile peace between Apple's number one software guy, Forstall, and his design counterpart, Ive, so he picked Cook to keep both of their egos in check. Cook probably soon realized that he wasn't up to the job and one of the two had to go if Apple were to move forward so he pinned the Maps debacle on Forstall and ousted him.
Forstall's reputation would make it hard for him to get a job in Silicon Valley where he isn't the top dog. It's not weird if you think about it. If Forstall does come back, it won't be because of some master plan of Cook's but rather that Apple has waken up and smelt the coffee.
Problem with that line of thinking is pure 'fantasist'. It's stupid logic to think Cook would 'cook' up a plan this grandiose to save Apple by firing and bringing Forstall back. It's purely idiotic. In fact, this would would serve Cook only to make himself look like a "hero" when he really isn't.
Secondly, Forstall doesn't get along with Ive and Cook, so if he were to return, I can guarantee that he will demand them and the others gone. Even if he did demand such a thing, those guys won't budge and would drag the process. Forstall and Ive, I suspect, will not get along on a professional level. Forstall doesn't have the chops to be CEO, but he's good with the UI/software design.
In short, they need someone else other than Forstall. Either it has to be a new outsider or Craig Federighi ( he's not a perfect choice but he's far better when it comes to presentations and doesn't beat around the bush during interviews. He comes off a bit more genuine than the others ). I actually think they'll need an outsider that has strong vision with UI/UX design and/or software coding background ( a la Mark Zuckerberg ), with experience running a business. The business aspect is the easy part for any well trained professional, I would think, but it is the vision and drive to see things through is vital. This person must have a strong idea of where Apple should be going and dump BS products to get rid of dead weight to move forward. And get a new industrial designer with new design language to replace Ive. That needs to be done soon.
Everyone? I beg your pardon? Skeuomorphic design has always had an ardent following and Ive's form over function philosophy had already been drawing criticism before their spat became public.
That's why the reduced version is on the left!
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...because it is from umpteen years ago?
We do not know what 10 under Forstall would have looked like.
Again though this ultimately falls on Cook as CEO. He's the one who has final say as to what products are to be released, which products are to be shelved and which need a little more time to work out the bugs before a release. Yes Forstall was the head of that Maps team but Cook is the one who approves or disapproves a product given all the available information. The Maps team gave that information to Cook. With all the massive problems that Maps had I find it hard to believe Cook didn't know about them unless Forstall & the Maps team intentionally hid that information from him in which case they were deservedly fired.
Got better how? Technology progresses so of course it got "better" in terms of having more functions. In terms of UI/UX, it's definitely not better. Just look at the Music app. It has become less intuitive, not more.
Isn't that when it also started becoming less stable? I'm trying to remember when I started noticing the crashes and glitches and trying to remember which iOS people started complaining about. ? P???
Myself, I like Android a lot. And I like iOS. I can't say I entirely like it when iOS tries to be more like Android, though. I think iOS 10 with all of its widgets feels a bit messy and I've had to really work to get used to it.
The widgets aren't even as good as on Android and on older phones I frequently see stutter when scrolling through them
Others and I have also posted that there is no visionary at Apple. Problem is that Cook has either not been able to find one or doesn't realize that.
He is to smart not to realize it, so let's assume they are trying to find somebody who "fits" into the Apple culture. If they approach it that way : "they are doing it wrong" which is why they haven't found anybody (yet)
I would want that person be a real SOB, disruptive, question everything and not easy to get along with.
A real visionary will do his own thing (eventually). If that person has enough incentive, s/he will mellow out over time and make good decisions and compromises always in the interest of a project.
May get rid of Ive, maybe get him to re-focus, who knows?
Agreed, they need to change asap, because what we are seeing now looks like a rowboat without paddles and the people in the rowboat are looking at each other wondering how they can get someplace.
I have never been as critical towards Apple in 30 plus years as I am now. They had a few nagging yet minute missteps. Not everything can be a winner to be fair.
But, what is going on right now has to change quickly.
For starters I would not make any comments any more any place about exciting pipelines, fields we are interested in, courage, magical products, best ever, earth shattering etc.
If I was at Apple I would just do stuff, no comments.
Let the press and users sing the accolades like it used to be when the products deserve it.
Agreed. Although we are coming from the perspective of not having had to. Its interesting to see the various interface ideas at play.
Hindsight is 20/20. But we don't know how it really went down and who ultimately had all the information and made the final decision (usually the CEO.) Do we know for a fact that Forstall said it was good to go at time of release (we know he did publicly but what about privately?) Maybe Tim was pushing to release but Forstall fought it then it flopped.
Also I found it interesting he would not sign the so called apology. This is something Jobs would never do and maybe he felt it was anti-Apple.
This is what I think, as well. Sometimes you need ass-hole to move things along.
Case in point: A friend of mine who works at my University's foundation. Problem or subpar service? Shuttle late? New Garbage company hasn't come to take the trash in a week? She's always sending emails and making a fuss. Most of the upper management doesn't like her, but crap gets done. Her work has been able to keep certain programs and funds for students.
Also why Tarkin is one of my favorite Star Wars characters - You need a tough ruthless ass-hole like Tarkin to keep something as large as the Galactic Empire in-line, and he produces results.
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Not really. Steve Jobs could keep Forstall in check. But once he was gone, apparently Forstall was out of control and other executives couldn't get along with him.
I would love a Scroll wheel interface for my music player. I scrub through a lot of radio shows and podcasts and I always loved just scrolling to pass up boring segments and commercials.
